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Aargh. Lost keys to D-Lock. WWSTWD?

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Where was the key?

In his riding jacket pocket 🙂

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 1:06 pm
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If by "riding jacket" you mean "winter dressing gown I'd been wearing last week when it turned chilly again", then yeah.

😉

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 1:16 pm
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Well done! Sod's law strikes again. 😉

Kryptonite locks come with little codes stamped into the keys. If you lose a key or break it, you can order replacement keys via their website. If you've lost both keys - but you took a photo of the key on your phone when you bought the lock - you can still order new keys.

There's not much that will stand up to an angle grinder. However, the Hiplok D1000 is really impressive because something something graphene - https://hiplok.com/product/hiplok-d1000/ - but, as @damascus' friend found out, pissed off thieves with an angle grinder can still ruin your day even if they can't steal your bike(s).

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 1:30 pm
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You can cut through a alloy or carbon frame in a few seconds with a hacksaw not that much longer for a steel frame .. or take off 80% of the value with a couple of Allen keys… and perhaps T25..

I'll admit that this had been going through my mind. Especially given that a frame is probably the most easily spotted / traced bit of a (decent) bike, modern forks, drivetrains and wheels are pretty valuable. At what point does a scrote simply cut the frame and make off with a slightly less valuable haul rather than trying to get through a D-Lock?

Given what a pain underseal is when using an angle grinder - it tends to lubricate the disc and stop it digging in; has anyone thought of wrapping a D-lock shackle in that landlord special stick-on flashing that's a relatively thin foil with a thick, sticky tar layer? Possibly then going over it all with self-amalgamating tape. I'm sure it could be picked off, but if it's enough of a pain to stop a quick theft, it might be worth considering.

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 1:38 pm
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A colleague at work got their bike knicked from the work shelter. Someone with a 'bike' had tailgated another member of staff in. Then the staff left, the thief disabled the lock, took own bike out, came back in, then smashed this person's 'lock' off with a saddle (CCTV picked up). Member of staff said, 'it was a fairly secure combination lock'. They were then blaming work security - nothing going to stop tailgating, but a decent lock might.

It's easy pickings in a public shelter - either tail gating or doors that don't lock properly.

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 1:51 pm
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The anti-grinder lock does exist, but a bit spendy, reviews I read last week were promising.

https://www.litelok.com/products/litelok-x1

 
Posted : 07/06/2023 2:06 pm
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I did an Alan Wells and got my light back without any argument.

The main problem with bike thefts is it's mostly a risk free crime.

Don't get caught and they win.. get caught and the worse that can usually happen is they give it back.

 
Posted : 08/06/2023 9:43 am
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Kryptonite locks come with little codes stamped into the keys. If you lose a key or break it, you can order replacement keys via their website. If you’ve lost both keys – but you took a photo of the key on your phone when you bought the lock – you can still order new keys.

Unless its a particularly expensive one it's barely worth it for 1 key and 2 keys ended up more than I paid for the original lock.

 
Posted : 08/06/2023 9:45 am
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The LiteLok X1 looks like a good compromise of cost/weight vs security.

There's also the even tougher LiteLok X3 and Hiplock D1000 for 250. They took 4 - 5 cutting discs, a mains powered grinder, and a vice to get through...

 
Posted : 08/06/2023 10:39 am
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That's actually really impressive- I want these to work, but I feel like I wouldn't totally trust it til I'd had a crack at it myself, that's encouraging though. Hopefully there's no alternative defeats like there sometimes are, since improving one thing can mean compromising another . But they also look like a good massive lump o too which always helps!

(for comparison, I have a sold secure gold motorbike chain which I was able to cut through a link in 6 seconds with my cheapo chinese grinder and a fairly crap cutting disc from aldi. It'd have needed 2 cuts of course but still. I've not cut my big squire chain, which I have more faith in, but I'd absolutely guarantee it doesn't last as long as either of those locks do)

 
Posted : 08/06/2023 6:03 pm
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