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Remedy the fact that you don't drive.

You could always learn to drive! Or what about the train?

Think how great the ride to work will be!

Crash course in driving. What did your new employer think of your lack of driving? How long is train journey 1hr?

What did your new employer think of your lack of driving?

just checked - loads of trains taking between an hour and an hour and a quarter.

This calls for a big MTFU

Why can't you get the train?

Yeah, the train trip isn't that onerous really, just that the money offered will really leave me out of pocket.

Let's see what the chap says about my C.V. first eh? If he likes it i can take a rapid driving course thing and buy a cheap motor.

I could always take a bike and ride between stations - ride to rochdale & catch train to Victoria - ride to Piccadilly and catch train to stockport - ride to work.

Probably quicker by train than by car

Train?

Ride?

Train & Ride?

Learn to drive and sit in traffic for an hour every day?

All depends on how much they will offer Vs how much a season ticket is really. 8:30 start so not TOO early for public transport.

So when you say you 'found a position', you mean you have applied for a vacancy, rather than been granted the job?

Don't worry yet; If they pick you out of the 477 other applicants you can then worry about it!

What dan said.

And no amount of MTFU may be relevant depending on the price of a season ticket. I bet a car would be quicker!

I spoke to the chap in question & he was really interested in my experience, quite eager to see my CV in fact.
They have a per hour rate on the advert but asked me what my expectations of a salary were.
Fingers crossed, but if it's going to cripple me via a season ticket... 🙁

Catch22 really, need a job to fund a vehicle & license but need the car for the job!

Ignore them, think carefully about how you'll be able to get there if using public transport. How early will you need to be there and can you get back if you have to work late. The additional cost of a season ticket or running a car may make it unviable.
Made that mistake once, won't do it again. A job is not worth taking for the sake of it, no matter how good it is.

Is an employer allowed to make a decision based on that if the job doesn't require a driving licence to complete duties?

every job i've ever had 'needed' a full DL - never needed one for the jobs. just a weird thing they like to put on there?

I just google mapped this... look like approx 16-17 miles.

Get a road bike FFS!

I just google mapped this... look like approx 16-17 miles.

i thought that but **** riding on a motorway.

Balls, you don't touch the motorway. Select the 'walking route' on the map. It's illegal to cycle on the motorway anyway, crazy talk fella!

Al - crossing the Manchester conurbation? Much of the orbital motorway is jammed solid in rush hour and the ordinary roads worse. You might be able to do it in under an hour but I doubt it. Remember the bit of motorway you guys got jammed up in on the way to lukes? You only skimmed the edge of the conurbation.

Pesky Mancunians renaming the M62 and M63 the M60 and then using it as a local ring road...

It will be £900 for a 12 month season ticket http://www.northernrail.org/travel/season-ticket-calculator

that equates to £75 per month cheaper than the fuel for a car, then add insurance, tax & car payments sound quite reasonable in comparison. Put on your ipod and a copy of ST, jobs a goodun.

I was bored! 😉

where's Rochdale?

Stoner - north by northeast of Manchester

125cc Scooter on 'L' plates?

Stoner - Member
where's Rochdale?

Manchester alriiiggght! Doh 🙄

Move?

bus?

or combination of bus/train/cycle.
* Winter: Bus/train every day
* Summer: bus/train tues and thurs and cycle mon/wed/fri

Look at the sunrise/sunset times
figure out when in the calendar you're going to cycle based on sunrise times and when you're going to need to set off, such that you're not setting off in the dark (IME, this is the only real demotivating thing about long distance cycle commuting), say that's X percent of the year, then your bus/train fares are going to be 2/5ths of X percent of what they would have been.

you don't have to cycle on the motorway.

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Sorry tj I didn't know you had experience of commuting in Manchester. I certainly wouldn't advise someone on the basis of one journey.

The distance (approx. 20 miles) isn't the problem as such, it's the terrain travelled.
The Manchester conurbation (as TJ points out) is huge and has a tremendous amount of traffic moving through it every day. the non-motorway route is a nightmare as well. The job involves being on your feet all day - how many people would cycle circa 20 miles, stand up all day then cycle 20 miles home in rush hour?

TJ - ORACLE - FACT..... 😆

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-mountain-bike-is-dead-long-live-the#post-1091372

Avoid highways: A671 and A6017, [b]17.5 mi[/b]

Easily do-able by bike for 3 months while you get a driving licence, if you 'have' to. I used to do 20mi each way every day.

I used to do 8 hours a day standing up, then 15miles each way on the road bike (record, 44min over 14 miles, timed from pulling off at the first trafic light to skidding to a halt at the farm gate :D)

I lived in Manchester for ten years a good few years ago. I go back regularly to visit friends, The traffic was awful then, its awful every time I go to visit and traffic congestion never gets better.

Manchester orbital is known as one of the if not the most congested motorways in the UK

Rochdale to Stockporet is downhill (pretty much), so relatively little effort.

Stockport to Rochdale would be harder work after a full day.

Me, if I was offered the job, I'd take it and worry about transport later.

Good grief, I nearly got as job in Birmingham not so long ago, which would have been a 2+ drive each way..!

Ooooooooh muddy, that's a tricky one.

Rochdale-Oldham-Ashton-Denton-Stockport.

You could bike it, but it's a tough one.

Bus to Ashton then on to Stockport?

Or train to Manchester then out to Stockport.

That's only about a mile more than the distance each way I cycled last Thursday evening to meet up with a couple of friends for a beer after work.
...and it was raining.
...and there was a full on march going down Oxford Street at 10.30pm.

TJ in "posting strong opinions about something he has experience of" shocker!!!

😀

I used to commute from Littleborough, through Rochdale to Manchester Victoria on the train...if travelling at peak times I'd imagine that you might struggle to get a bike on at Rochdale, and back on at Victoria...it used to be standing room only at Rochdale (but heard they may have put an extra carriage on some trains).

Getting across 'town' to Picadilly without a bike is a pain too...often quicker to walk than wait for the (probably overcrowded) picadilly tram; at a brisk pace it's still 15 minutes (to 20 minutes) walk.

liftshare.com - free I think, therefore worth a punt

Look, if people can cycle across London to get to work you can ride the poncy 20 miles up North. Or get a pair of these:
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i'm looking at doing a 24 mile each way commute 3 x week

it will be tough

but then so will i - once i've been doing it for a month or so