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Roofing.
Seems they get away with no warranty on any repair job (from the basic research I have done).
Unless anyone know different?
£258 on repair in September and water dripping from ceiling again...and the 10 year warranty on that £3K new roof became worthless when that roofer dissolved his business on retirement!
You should talk to TJ about roof work in Edinburgh.
CEO of carillion?
Forum software design?
Tattoo Artist?
politician
Premier league football manager,wait a few weeks and you will get a new job too,win win:)
Gigolo
Prison manager. (governor) They do it all the time, 'manage' to get a jail into a state of chaos & not only still get paid but usually promoted as well.
A lot of "bricklayers" at the moment. Not paid by me until its right I might add, however tomorrow we play the knock it down and start again game...
Prime minister.
Dentist
Politician. Banker. Blue chip CEO
These guys make rough tradesmen look like real amateurs. Rip off thousands of people at the same time and often walk off with a lump sum and a tasty pension to boot.
Oh, and the dentist I had as a yoof.
minister for hedgehogs?
Just looking at builders, and am put off the one nearing retirement for similar reasons to OP
forum developer 😉
Well, not 1 proper reply.
I am blessed.
Must correspond with the level of knowledge
Blast. Junkyard beat me to it.
Wasn't that the principle of the Brittas empire.
Screw it up then get promoted to a position where you could cause less chaos?
In answer to the OP just about any profession, trade, job or vocation. At least for a while.
Public sector employee.
As for a proper reply, do you know for certain it's the repair that has failed?
@cynic-al
"Roofing. Seems they get away with no warranty on any repair job" - I wouldn't know, I've never seen a roofer I was prepared to employ, on H&S grounds.
@wrightyson
"tomorrow we play the knock it down and start again game" I tried that once, the client came down on us saying "this will delay the project, etc". So we let it stand. And then had to put up with the client complaining about shoddy brickwork for the next 2 years.
Wrightyson...great big-hitting there, I'll pm you the details of the brotherhood
What work did they do 4-5 months ago?
What promises were made then?
What is wrong now?
All warranties are only worth something whilst the company is there unless its underwritten by someone - you're a lawyer surely you were aware of that when you agreed the original work? I think the National Federation of Roofers (or whatever they are called) can underwrite their members work.
Anything at board level. Different rules for the 'old' boys
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px; background-color: #eeeeee;">Blast. Junkyard beat me to it.</span>
Nope. 😉
Council Building Control Officers -absolute bunch of incompetent halfwits with no idea on building regulations.
Hayzoos, Cynic-Al, you are the touchiest wee soul, aren’t you. Maybe ther are better mediums to express your angst through?
I’m anawer to your question, though, the answer is book editors.
You’re welcome.
Anyone who works in Government / Civil Service? I've seen some startling failures and they simply getted shuffled off to create mayhem elsewhere.
Poly I am not a lawyer.
Guess what they claimed to fix the leak that is now leaking again.
I had though there might be some protection for consumers as there is with goods.
DirtyLyle.... actually I can't be bothered. Already made that point many times.
Football club badge designers
Guy in local council didn't bother to apply to central government for extra help for the (increasing amount of) homeless in our town last winter.
Two people died of hypothermia on the main high street. Head of council said he still had full confidence in the guy.
Tory council as you might have guessed.
Automotive Engineering Manager - come in, change everything, nothing works, get promoted!!
STW forum designer - wtf are the emoticons now???
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bedmaker Subscriber.
Politician. Banker. Blue chip CEO
These guys make rough tradesmen look like real amateurs. Rip off thousands of people at the same time and often walk off with a lump sum and a tasty pension to boot.
Oh, and the dentist I had as a yoof**quotes off**
So very much this and definitely the dentist.
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Sorry for tarring you with that brush! My forum memory must be rusty.
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Did they say it would now last as long as the rest of the roof? The thing about patched repairs on any material is often it just moves the point of weakness along slightly.
<p style="margin: 10px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background-color: transparent; line-height: 1.2em; color: #444444; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">I had though there might be some protection for consumers as there is with goods.</p>
There is, but it’s hard enough to enforce with products, never mind services.
Imagine someone goes to their LBS with a puncture. The LBS says we can patch it for £5 or replace the tube for £9. Customer says patch is fine. Four months later they come back and say “it’s leaking again, you’ll need to fix it for free”. Whilst contrived and rather different values involved that is the issue you have. Is it even the original repair that is leaking or a bit further along which has the same symptoms? If it is the original repair was it reasonable to expect a permanent repair for the price paid? You can easily extend the analogy to a car garage where the prices are much more like a roof. If a garage replaced a brake calliper for you you might reasonably expect it to replace it if it developed a fault a week later. Five months might create an interesting discussion but would still be likely at good garages. But if the disk needed replacing, the pipe corroded, or the calliper on another wheel developed a fault you wouldn’t have a legitimate complaint even if the garage had looked over the whole system and said it is fine.
I hate leak detection/fixing jobs. Water will track along inside a roof for surprisingly long distances & make it really hard to pinpoint the source.
Plus as the above post shows, you fix one leak & all of a sudden you become liable for any future ones in the eyes of the client.
Weather forecaster !
Guess what they claimed to fix the leak that is now leaking again.
How do you know it's the same one ?
BT.
Third party software suppliers. In fact you get paid twice.
- Receive spec
- Charge to complete work
- Do coding
- "Test"
- Supply code
- Code does not meet spec
- Charge to fix code
Any clinical grade, and higher management in the NHS, with increasing balls up coverage the higher up you get.
IHN - we must be doing it wrong! We don't charge (again) if the product doesn't meet the spec. We do charge if the spec wasn't quite what the client wanted even though its what they told us/signed off on!
[i]IHN – we must be doing it wrong! We don’t charge (again) if the product doesn’t meet the spec.[/i]
To be fair, I should have said 'some' software suppliers.
[i]We do charge if the spec wasn’t quite what the client wanted even though its what they told us/signed off on![/i]
Like that ever happens... 😉
Pretty much any trade.
Chris Grayling. I can't think of a more incompetent politician, yet he somehow keeps getting cabinet jobs. Given the calibre of the current cabinet, to be as mediocre as Grayling is a stunning achievement.
Railway manager
Pollsters.
Construction site agents.
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Not on my watch...
What is all that I've just posted????
Aye, roofing sounds dead easy, marauding about on an exposed roof in winter, that is generally in a shit state because it'll be one of the last things folks spend money on, and in reality it'll be in such a state of disrepair that anything you do will be basically a sticking plaster on an infected area, and you know if you dare uggested to the home owner that they actually need a shit load of work done, they'll call someone else that'll do the aforementioned sticking plaster repair, for cheap.
Bugger that for a job.
[i]What is all that I’ve just posted????[/i]
Like I said, third-party software suppliers
surely David Davis leaves all others in the dust
No beer - the flat roof was 5 years old.
Poly - I was formerly a lawyer 🙂
Isn't there an implied term about work to a reasonable standard? What protection is there? I like a wee legal scrap.
Viz Top Tip
Having trouble finding local tradesmen?
Simply walk into a pub on any afternoon
🙂
<span style="color: #444444; font-size: 12.8px;">Screw it up then get promoted to a position where you could cause less chaos?</span>
The dilbert principle.
Or slightly less cynically the Peter principle.
Aye, roofing sounds dead easy, marauding about on an exposed roof in winter, that is generally in a shit state because it’ll be one of the last things folks spend money on, and in reality it’ll be in such a state of disrepair that anything you do will be basically a sticking plaster on an infected area, and you know if you dare suggested to the home owner that they actually need a shit load of work done, they’ll call someone else that’ll do the aforementioned sticking plaster repair, for cheap
Bugger that for a job.
and that's why I stopped working and joined the fire service 😉
Nobeer pretty much nails it. To complicate things further you get issues going back the lifetime of the building like slates not having enough overlap (whole roof needs redone), water gates and gullies not being wide enough (made to tie in with 1/2 and whole slate integers but not big enough for the job), porous stonework. Flat roofs being re felted on top of sheet materials that's not properly supported and/or turned to Weetabix.
I've seen a flat roof dormer where the weight of the structure was taken by 18mm chipboard on the floor below; there was no structure directly under this so the whole dormer had sagged about 25mm and moved about enough to cause the felt to fail. Roofer was up every few months to try and reseal things.
Al, sounds like you need a roofer up on your roof who can think outside the box a bit.
Is it too late to suggest "any public sector position"?
No apologies if it's not.
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