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I couldn't care less about football but calling it chavball/ wendyball/ etc doesn't make you sound edgy and alternative, it just makes you sound like a ****t


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 5:17 pm
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igrf, as a director of a company that sells cycling equipment, do you think it's a good idea to wind up potential customers? You appear to be saying that football fans are a bit below you, that somehow you are better. Interesting strategy, risky, but interesting.


 
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You know what, it took 60 yrs to get a statue to bomber command, and there are still loads of deserving wartime participants with no monument to their sacrifice, yet some bod, obnoxious for the most part, paid God knows what gets his memory perpetuated, for what? What do you need a statue to him for, you can still see him most saturdays or whenever it is the wendyboys get their overpaid arses down to the ground for a bit of a kick about?

Do you understand the difference between Private Companies, and Government Spending ?

WTF has what Manchester United decide to spend their money on got to do with Bomber Command ?

You might as well moan at someone on here for spending £3k on a bike, and make out that's why the NHS doesn't have enough money for as many MRI machines as they might want.

That's as much sense as your argument makes.


 
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igrf, as a director of a company that sells cycling equipment, do you think it's a good idea to wind up potential customers? You appear to be saying that football fans are a bit below you, that somehow you are better. Interesting strategy, risky, but interesting.

It's going to put off more customers than a factory in Yorkshire having a few saucy calendars in the workshop that's for sure.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 5:24 pm
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I'd have thought that someone of the OPs extended age, would be delighted to see a monument to such an inspirational older member of society. It should spur him on to get up tomorrow, and have another go at selling overpriced surf handbags.


 
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It's going to put off more customers than a factory in Yorkshire having a few saucy calendars in the workshop that's for sure.

I get the feeling I've missed something. 🙁


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 5:28 pm
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You and I clearly were educated in a different era. You're wrong.

Do expand...


 
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Thanks.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 5:31 pm
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OP fail - pure and simple.
Get out and ride your bike instead of starting a thread such as this


 
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I am always a little surprised at how sensitive the chav/wendyball supporters are! So unlike their heroes (sic) on the fields of play who supply and take verbal abuse on a constant basis. How did a sport whose rules were formulated and tested on the playing fields of those "lofty" institutions (Eton, Charterhouse and Westminster) have fallen to a such a level that these nicknames can be deemed to be appropriate? 😉

But seriously, OP what is wrong with honouring a person who has sustained a position in his chosen profession for such a length of time? A remarkable avhievement in any business these days but especially FOOTball. Surely even non-supports of the game and/or Man U can see that!!!


 
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I'm a bit lost here - are we talking about that game where some blokes kick a pig's bladder around a field while a lot of other blokes stand around and loudly accuse some of the first lot of blokes of being simians? Or something?


 
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You know what, it took 60 yrs to get a statue to bomber command, and there are still loads of deserving wartime participants with no monument to their sacrifice, yet some bod, obnoxious for the most part, paid God knows what gets his memory perpetuated, for what? What do you need a statue to him for, you can still see him most saturdays or whenever it is the wendyboys get their overpaid arses down to the ground for a bit of a kick about?

You need to get out a little bit more mate..


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 8:31 pm
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Anyone using the term 'wendyball' or 'chavball' are generally coming across as much more ignorant than any of the football fans I know


 
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much more ignorant than any of the football fans I know

I don't know. I know some pretty ignorant football fans. 😐


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:02 pm
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igrf, as a director of a company that sells cycling equipment, do you think it's a good idea to wind up potential customers? You appear to be saying that football fans are a bit below you,

Not sure why it makes any difference to my opinion what I do for a living, but as to football fans being a bit 'below me' that would make them midgets as well as being victims of the further commercialisation of a proletarian pastime.

Play the game = fine, pay huge sums to watch it = victim, erect statues to multimillionaire manager and part time changing room boot chucker = insane.

Just my opinion, doesn't take any special qualification to have it.


 
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If you don't like something I can live with that but there ar a few people on hear that constantly call it wendyball etc. Sorry but you just sound quite sad really.

Mr Woppit they don't kick a pigs bladder round its the 21st century!


 
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Love to know igrf's company.
You'll never make detective 🙄


 
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Not sure why it makes any difference to my opinion what I do for a living,

Your opinion is your opinion, something you're perfectly entitled to. I'll let you work out what the problem with alienating potential customers is, all by you intelligent little self.
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@druidh Its been a very very long week! Not too late for a stealthy edit!


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:24 pm
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Love to know igrf's company.

He works for Ann Summers.

...in testing I think.


 
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pingu66 »
Love to know igrf's company.

chavbikes.co.uk


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:28 pm
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Not sure why it makes any difference to my opinion what I do for a living,

Your opinion is your opinion, something you're perfectly entitled to. I'll let you work out what the problem with alienating potential customers is, all by you intelligent little self.


Well here's the news, this past thirty years or so, my potential customers enjoy their weekends and free time, surfing, windsurfing, kitesurfing, snowboarding, free ride mountain biking, they don't pay stupid amounts of money to watch overpaid girlie boys kicking and diving a ball around, they might play the game occasionally as we all do, but watching it aint high on their list last I looked. I doubt also that they're so stupid that they'd let something as inane as a comment on an internet forum full of lycra clad politically correct, teachers, IT wallers, roadies, bleeding hearts and single speeders, prevent them from making a commercial choice in their product purchase.
I could be wrong of course, but hey I'm happy to take that risk. 😉


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:39 pm
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but hey I'm happy to take that risk

You and Gerald Ratner. 😆
I doubt also that they're so stupid that they'd let something as inane as a comment on an internet forum full of lycra clad politically correct, teachers, IT wallers, roadies, bleeding hearts and single speeders, prevent them from making a commercial choice in their product purchase.

Classy.


 
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What's an "IT waller"?

Genuine question - I've tried googling it and everything...


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:49 pm
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but hey I'm happy to take that risk

You and Gerald Ratner.
I doubt also that they're so stupid that they'd let something as inane as a comment on an internet forum full of lycra clad politically correct, teachers, IT wallers, roadies, bleeding hearts and single speeders, prevent them from making a commercial choice in their product purchase.

Classy and surprisingly accurate

As well as FTFY, there's one difference between Ratner & I, well two come to think of it, no three if he's still actually alive. The first I don't sell what did he call his stuff 'rubbish,crap'? Because secondly, I like to ride only the best stuff I can get my butt on, so no danger of that comparison, although it's not the first time it's been suggested on this forum.


 
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Posted : 25/11/2012 9:50 pm
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Football is a great sport for the moron masses. I love it, keeps them away from cycling.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:54 pm
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I'm not sure Ann Summers is niche enough Jimmers.


 
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[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9188043/Footballers-are-highly-intelligent-according-to-new-study.html ]Yes, of course all football players are stupid. [/url]

As well as FTFY, there's one difference between Ratner & I, well two come to think of it, no three if he's still actually alive. The first I don't sell what did he call his stuff 'rubbish,crap'? Because secondly, I like to ride only the best stuff I can get my butt on, so no danger of that comparison, although it's not the first time it's been suggested on this forum.

So what's the third difference then?


 
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Football is a great sport for the moron masses. I love it, keeps them away from cycling.

I believe morons ride bikes too. Occasionally, they post on forums too.


 
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I still don't know what an "IT waller" is.

Is it a chavvy job where one is remunerated in "wages", or a salaried profession with professional bodies from which to gain accreditation?


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 9:59 pm
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Genuine question - I've tried googling it and everything...

You must be one of the stupid ones, he's not interested in you or your money.
I do find it to be a strange attitude coming onto a biking forum where many of us have interesting backgrounds and participate in crossover sports, or manage clubs or are friends of people of influence, and then insult all these potential custom.
I thought you might have appreciated a bit of a heads up regarding upsetting customers, clearly you don't.
I for sure, as a football lover and a lycra clad whatever will not be giving you any of my hard earned.
I'm sure you'll be happy with that, as indeed I am.
You appear not have understood the Ratner point. I thought you were the intelligent one. My apologies.


 
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You must be one of the stupid ones, he's not interested in you or your money.

Yup.

Though I think he's just going for the passive-aggressive approach by ignoring my questions.


 
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[my customers] - they don't pay stupid amounts of money to watch overpaid girlie boys kicking and diving a ball around

I'll not be bothering buying anything from you then as I'm clearly not intelligent enough to fit your high standards 🙄


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:05 pm
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I for sure, as a football lover and a lycra clad whatever will not be giving you any of my hard earned.
I'm sure you'll be happy with that, as indeed I am.

If as you say, you're a lycra clad football lover, then I am quite comfortable that nothing I sell would remotely interest you anyway and even if it did and it was up to me which it isn't, I wouldn't sell it to you anyway it might upset my proper customers, why would they want to buy the same kit a lycraclad wendyboy uses? 😉

Edit and that includes you nealglover, go buy stuff from someone else.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:10 pm
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I believe morons ride bikes too. Occasionally, they post on forums too.

No doubt. I bet everyone is a football fan too. They seem to go hand in hand like nothing else.


 
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Edit and that includes you nealglover, go buy stuff from someone else.

You forgot the wink here to show us that you're [s]backtracking[/s] having a bit of a laugh.
¡Viva la defensa de Edimburgo!


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:14 pm
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I see a belated Edinburgh Defence coming in low under the cover of darkness..........

EDIT - great minds, etc.......


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:15 pm
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Did the OP used to be someone else on here?

And what the hell is his company? (Yes I'd make a shoite detective too).


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:16 pm
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No I meant it with neal, he's thick, and he admitted it not only to me, but to an entire forum of IT wallas, there corrected the spelling so the grammar expert can go google..


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:17 pm
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I don't particularly like footy, but where does the OP work? To ensure we know exactly what company we should be avoiding.

From his response he clearly won't mind.

Thanks


 
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I doubt also that they're so stupid that they'd let something as inane as a comment on an internet forum full of lycra clad politically correct, teachers, IT wallers, roadies, bleeding hearts and single speeders, prevent them from making a commercial choice in their product purchase.

IGRF you are really a first class tosser.

Why not just write another list of people you don't want to buy from you to go with your clients list of in terests, stick the list on here as a starter save yourself missing anyone out who is unworthy.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:20 pm
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Is there any octopusses here yet? If not why not?
This thread needs an octopus immediately....


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:21 pm
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Tsk! Grocer's Apostrophe.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:21 pm
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IT walla's there corrected the spelling so the grammar expert can go google..

Walla!


 
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I don't particularly like footy, but where does the OP work?


Tim, may I call you Tim? You'll have to use all the initiative you can find on this cold and dreary Edinburgh evening.


 
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Edit and that includes you nealglover, go buy stuff from someone else.

I've got no problem with that.

Plenty of other places to buy from.

Edinburgh defence or not, It seems a bad move for you to directly effect the sales of the independent shops that retail the stuff you supply.

Still, your choice I suppose.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:26 pm
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His company and his name is in his profile

He was banned before but i forget what his log on was any idea david jones15 as this may be an area where you would have some expertise [ dont fall into my subtle trap and answer as its probably before you joined ]


 
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I don't particularly like footy, but where does the OP work?

[Url] http://www.surf-sales.com/index.asp [/url]


 
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IIRC, the last time igrf went through this catharsis, someone suggested contacting the companies he represents in this country as it might be harming their sales. I don't think the list of companies has changed since that time, so I can only suggest they don't give a damn 🙂


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 10:30 pm
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I shall have to google the "Edinburgh defence' not been here long enough to have experienced that, but if you knew what independent store owners think of this place which is a hive of Onone, CRC, Wiggle and every other internet direct destructive influence on their businesses I'll not lose too much sleep.

Shame though, that an allegedly intelligent forum can't tolerate the views of another without becoming nasty though isn't it? And you wonder why everyone thinks you're all tossers (Which kind of includes me since I'm now posting here).


 
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but if you knew what independent store owners think of this place

So it's all the shops you supply that I need to Avoid now as well ?

Not just the products that you supply them ?

(That's a fair few shops that I use regularly from looking at your lists 😯 )

Your amazing at Marketing, you should do workshops or something, you know, for companies that are just doing TOO well.


 
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IIRC, the last time igrf went through this catharsis, someone suggested contacting the companies he represents in this country as it might be harming their sales. I don't think the list of companies has changed since that time, so I can only suggest they don't give a damn

Well I think if you follow your last advice to me, which I forgot to thank you for, I hadn't seen it, I actually do them more good than harm resolving issues, footballers aside, that and the fact we're their biggest distributor outside the states, selling to folk who don't post on this forum, or drive Audi's, teach children badly, bash keyboards for a living, remove children from foster homes because they vote UKIP, or centre punch their seat post and wonder why it broke...

And one day, in the real world you might find I could even help folk on here if they have a problem, which was why I did re log back on after the last debacle, anyway, it's enough of this frivolity, I still think building a statue to a football manager is a total waste of everything and an insult to some folks intelligence, but I'm prepared also to accept that others find it uplifting and they in turn are equally welcome to their views.


 
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in the real world you might find I could even help folk on here if they have a problem,

Cheers for the offer If i ever to borrow an annoying **** I will drop you an email 😉


 
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Well I think if you follow your last advice to me, which I forgot to thank you for, I hadn't seen it, I actually do them more good than harm resolving issues, footballers aside, that and the fact we're their biggest distributor outside the states
That was, sort of, my point 🙂

I wonder when we can expect to see Surf Sales sponsoring a football team?


 
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This is brilliant. I must admit, I also don't like football and agree that corporate 'statements' along the lines of statues of living people [i]are[/i] bloody crass and more than a little ridiculous.

As a child, I played with guns, hammers and a brick on a string (my favourite). Also, I do wear lycra, but only under manly outerwear.

As you were.


 
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I wonder if there's a footy forum where someone has posted about cycling, clearly forgetting/ignoring that people tend to like more than one sport and has been surprised by their response to being insulted.

While we're here, can we get a list if sports you approve us paying money to watch? Or should we just not support local sport at all.


 
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Or should we just not support local sport at all.

Or local independent sport shops either, apparently they think we are "all tossers" and don't want, or need, our business.


 
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I wonder if there's a footy forum where someone has posted about cycling, clearly forgetting/ignoring that people tend to like more than one sport and has been surprised by their response to being insulted.

While we're here, can we get a list if sports you approve us paying money to watch? Or should we just not support local sport at all.

I am like a moth to a flame with this place..

I couldn't help myself but google [url= http://www.manutdtalk.com/index.php?community/football-banter.7/ ]This[/url] Where they seem too busy,'Let's all laughing at <insert appropriate loser club>, the Fittest Wag or managing a gang bang in a brothel or some Cove's inability so to do, I doubt very much if bikes and or bike riding is very high on their agenda.


 
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I doubt very much if bikes and or bike riding is very high on their agenda.

Of course not.

You must be right, no football fans at all like cycling.

None at all.


 
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I am like a moth to a flame with this place..

Nope you're just a bigoted ****!


 
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the statue is outside a 67,000 seat stadium set up for people who do appear to care about such things and like thier statue. Get over it.


 
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This isn't the first time igrf has turned up on a thread, trolled a bit, had a massive hissy fit and said that he doesn't want to sell anything to someone who isn't super radical. I have a road bike (well, more than one), a singlespeed but also ride (and buy) the sort of bikes you sell but I guess you'd not want my money as I have some bib shorts in the cupboard.

Couldn't care less about football but, yet again, you've come across as a dick.


 
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no man is an island.


 
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This isn't the first time igrf has turned up on a thread, trolled a bit, had a massive hissy fit and said that he doesn't want to sell anything to someone who isn't super radical. I have a road bike (well, more than one), a singlespeed but also ride (and buy) the sort of bikes you sell but I guess you'd not want my money as I have some bib shorts in the cupboard.

Ooo I've never really got to speak to a real live single speeder, so tell me what happened to you? Do you get like voices in your head telling you gears are bad? Wtf are 'bib' shorts do the voices tell you to wear them as well or is it some masonic like uniform you single speeders wear to recognise each other?


 
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No, I just used it to ride to work on when I lived in London. 20 year old frame, cheap parts, less worry about theft and breakage. So that's my explanations out of the way, what's yours for acting like a 5 year old?


 
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Ooo I've never really got to speak to a real live single speeder, so tell me what happened to you? Do you get like voices in your head telling you gears are bad? Wtf are 'bib' shorts do the voices tell you to wear them as well or is it some masonic like uniform you single speeders wear to recognise each other?

Oh dear.

This is like watching a car crash in slow motion 😐


 
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There really is nothing quite like football, for getting the middle classes frothing at the mouth because a bunch of lower class lads earn more money than they'll ever see in their lifetime


 
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This is like watching a car crash in slow motion

It seems igrf has a touch of the TJ's about him, although nowhere near as nice, and just cannot pull back from the inevitable.

...or as Albert Einstein said:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


 
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You've posted that a few times before 😀


 
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This is like watching a car crash in slow motion

It seems igrf has a touch of the TJ's about him, although nowhere near as nice, and just cannot pull back from the inevitable.

...or as Albert Einstein said:

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results


 
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C'mon igrf. You may have started as making a point/having a bit of a laugh....fair enough...but you are now just appearing rude. Is there any need?

Plenty of things to have a laugh at football about and a cry (West Ham hissing chants this weekend - well done guys! 😕 ) etc without resorting to abuse. Leave that to those on the terraces (Nice to meet you Mr Benitez, welcome!). Ooops!

I was going to buy some WH vs L'pool tickets for my son as a present until I read the reports of the fans behaviour this weekend. In the same way that some may not want to support igrf's venture after this thread, why would I want to give money to WU when the fans behave in that way?


 
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"Plenty of things to have a laugh at football about and a cry (West Ham hissing chants this weekend - well done guys!"

Those West ham wallies... They can't even beat Spurs when we are rubbish

And the thing is.... in 12 odd years of being in the Park Lane Tottenham, pretty close to the away fans, I'd never heard, or even heard of, hissing before that lawyer chap mentioned it the other week ??


 
Posted : 26/11/2012 10:33 am
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And there was me thinking it was a mountain bike forum....

So I can add Footy Fans to the list then, so do y'all drive your Audi's to the match then?


 
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Really, is there any need?


 
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No, I just used it to ride to work on when I lived in London. 20 year old frame, cheap parts, less worry about theft and breakage. So that's my explanations out of the way, what's yours for acting like a 5 year old?

Benjamin Button me..

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Really, is there any need?

Well it is raining and not much else to do, but I now realise there are so many more important subjects to debate here so will step away from the keyboard and back off now...


 
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think you should


 
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