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[Closed] A question about pan sizes. Homebrew related.

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 IHN
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I did my first homebrew from a kit a few weeks ago, went okay(ish), I've now slightly got the bug and want to get another one on the go.

I've seen these mini-mash kits from a chap who's only just down the road:

https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/bitter-mini-mash-recipe-kit/

They get good reviews and they seems a bit more interesting than a normal kit, so thought I'd give it a go. Thing is, the 'necessary equipment' on the instructions includes a pan 'of at least 10l capacity'. Reading the rest of the instructions though, there's never more than 5l in it. I've got a 6l stockpot, so assume/hope that'll do, but I'm wondering why the instructions are so specific about the 10l capacity. Any ideas?


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:05 pm
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There is a lot of foaming at the start of the boil.

Also, if it's a kit that uses grains that adds lots of volume.

And if you sparge too you add more liquid


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:14 pm
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There is about 500g of grain, this will take up space, also the hops will. With the 5 litres of water, that wouldn't fit in a 6 litre pan. Also, when you boil it up, you get the "hot break" which foams and bubbles quite a lot.

You will make hell of a mess if you try and use a small pot.

If you are close to the Malt Miller, call in and ask them for some advice, they are a really friendly and helpful bunch.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:15 pm
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What he said.

Just go all grain with something like a brewdevil (or grainfather if you've got more £££).

Whereabouts in the country are you? I've got a full 3-pot all-grain system and cooler doing nothing since I got a Brewdevil.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:18 pm
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Whereabouts in the country are you? I’ve got a full 3-pot all-grain system and cooler doing nothing since I got a Brewdevil.

^+1.

I also have a 3 pot system which is now redundant since I bought a Grainfather.

Kalrstein do a decent looking clone on Ebay.  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beer-keg-Dispenser-Kettle-home-Brew-Mash-Tank-Home-Electric-Stainless-30L-2500W/232556299685?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20151005190540%26meid%3D7c1d6bd17c25434989057ab83ea40686%26pid%3D100505%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D232556299685&_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226

As I understand it, the Brewdevil, Ace, and Klarstein are all basically the same.

Do it, you won't regret it.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:23 pm
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Ah, gotcha, wondered if it might all get a bit foamy.

I'm in Cirencester, the Malt Miller's in Swindon so I was going to go down in the morning anyway. I'll have to pick up a big pan from somewhere.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:26 pm
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I’m in Cirencester, the Malt Miller’s in Swindon so I was going to go down in the morning anyway.

Are they open on a Saturday? They don't really have a "shop" as such.

I would give them a ring to check.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:30 pm
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Are they open on a Saturday?

*checks*

Ah... Bugger.

Might nip down this afternoon then!


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:34 pm
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Might nip down this afternoon then!

Take your credit card with you and buy a Grainfather and his Son of Punkie recipe kit. You won't regret it. 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:37 pm
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Maybe not just yet. MrsIHN was just about okay in humoring my purchase of £50's worth of old fridge, tube heater and controller to make a brewfridge in the garage. I think if I dropped £700 on a Grainfather, she and I would be having a very different conversation, one where my voice ended several octaves higher 😉


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:44 pm
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Glad to hear you got a brew fridge. It made a massive difference to my beer.

I think if I dropped £700 on a Grainfather

You are only putting off the inevitable!

Or go "cheap" and drop £350 on a clone.

Get her into beer and she will sign the PO.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 1:49 pm
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Right, I've been, got a kit, and a gert big pan from Wilkos. Sunday is brew day.

And, as it's four o'clock, I've cracked open a beer; the first of the first batch. It's not terrible, so that's a plus 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 3:55 pm
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Well done - let us know how the new kit goes


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 4:03 pm
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So it begins.

You have bought your first bit of shiny.

I started like you and ended up with a shed full of pots, kegs, burners and buckets.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 4:05 pm
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I assume the boil will be a bit whiffy? I've got a gas burner I could use outside, wondered if that might be a better idea.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 4:09 pm
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I assume the boil will be a bit whiffy?

It's not that bad. Just smells "malty". A normal kitchen extractor will be able to cope with a small boil like that.

I’ve got a gas burner I could use outside

What size? You need a decent amount of heat. The other problem is that if there's any wind it can be quite inefficient.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 4:13 pm
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I'll live with a malty smell, I can always open the windows/back door.


 
Posted : 19/10/2018 4:15 pm
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A decent Homebrew shop will be able to sell you a Peco Electrim digital boiler for a little under £150, plus a mashing & sparging bag for about a tenner. This will allow you to do 21-23 litre brews without too much fear of boiling over.

Brew in a bag all grain method takes about an hour to mash & an hour to boil with very little mess and a fraction of the outlay of a grainfather or traditional three vessel setup


 
Posted : 20/10/2018 12:54 am
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PS the malty smell from the mash is fine, but I never really got to enjoy the smell of boiling hops


 
Posted : 20/10/2018 1:11 am
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I have a 32 litre pan which gives me 19 litres into the fermenter, doing biab. The wok burner on my gas hob is powerful enough to maintain a rolling boil, though it takes a long time to get there.


 
Posted : 20/10/2018 7:51 am

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