[Closed] A magazine more STW than STW itself

Haha 'method living' was my trying to explain how I find it helps you to achieve something if you put your mind in that headspace. With mountain biking or motorbikes or cars or whatever, I've always thrown myself totally at something, and 'living it' helps me to achieve whatever it is.

There will definitely be some content about nice jeans that you don't wash yes, but lots more besides.

And thanks for the pledge - I hope your jinx has worn off!

Alright, I'll put it another way as I don't think I'm phrasing myself well (which is probably why I'll never try to start a mag 🙂 ).

Is it going to be a mag that reviews £200 jeans and discusses not washing them but comes across as looking down at those that 'don't get it'. That's the bit that I reckon a lot of people would have issue with. As I said, it all seems a bit silly to me but then bikes are too so I have no fundamental problem with that so long as there's self-awareness to go with it. If there is then a look into other people's interests no matter how silly can actually be interesting.

Basically, if I found your jeans and washed them while you weren't looking, would you be jumping off a bridge after hacking me to pieces (with an axe presumably) or just be mildly hacked off? 😉

For what it's worth, I now feel a creeping sense of guilt. I did, however, come up with 'Beardy McAxerson' so I figure we're about equal now. Anyhow, good luck with the mag, despite it being something I'm not at all likely to buy in to.

Honestly, if I was not washing my jeans and you stole them and washed them for me then I'd be pretty furious yes!

But at the same time I can completely understand why that sort of obsession seems crazy to some people so I'd never look down on someone who didn't get it.

Pretty much everything that I've ever been into loads of people haven't got. From bikes and F1 to jeans and beards. Makes the world go round that sort of thing. I love peoples' niche obsessions.

Beardy McAxerson is great, I think I'm going to put it on a t-shirt (I might sell Beta Male 'Beardy McAxerson' t-shirts in a kind of huge twist of irony!).

Cockmonkey though, I wasn't so chuffed with that. It was a little uncalled for. Well, a lot uncalled for.

I'm sure that you'll get called worse than that over the years if you're running a business 🙂

Makes the world go round that sort of thing. I love peoples' niche obsessions.

Actually, I agree, it can be hugely interesting. Might even stretch to giving you some backing to see if you can manage it...

Well that would be awfully kind, thank you 🙂

I love peoples' niche obsessions.

I bet you do, you filthy little (big?) man.

The thing is, I take the piss, as do a lot of people on here. As somebody already said, it's banter. If my cockmonkey comment upset you, then I'm sorry. Still can't get my head round method living though, but as I'm sure you realise, I'm not part of your target demographic. I no longer have a beard, I don't own an axe, and I wash my jeans (just boring levis I'm afraid) whenever they get mucky. With regard to you being interested in buying a sportster, I'd try one first. They're a bit small and skinny, and if you really want a Harley, big twins is where it's at baby!

I think I want a small skinny bike first to be honest, big and heavy gives me the fear right now. Really not very big as a human.

You'd be fine with one of the bigger Harleys as all the weight's low down. I loved my sportster when I first got it, as I'd wanted a Harley for years, but I quickly got fed up with the fact that it was so skinny and always felt a bit too cramped. Also got bored with the 'it's a girl's bike' comments from other Harley owners. I think the streetbob is not a lot more expensive than the sportster iron, and to be honest, you'd be getting a lot more bang for your buck.

I can't claim to be interested in beards, axes or jeans (2nd hand older-type Levis 758s for me, every time)... but I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I [i]always[/i] used to mis-read your surname, and I simply assumed that you were related to the great Sally Hibberd. 😀

[img] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=241387 [/img]

my all-time favourite cycling website

@Clover - that site is a thing of beauty, ta for linking.

Yeah she's my mum. I changed the spelling so people wouldn't always go 'oh Sally is your mum'.

Yeah she's my mum

Every day is a [s]school[/s] [i]MBUK[/i] day.

[b]oh Sally is your mum[/b]

Ha she's not really! People used to think that anyway mind.

Paul Smith is your dad though, right?

Ha she's not really! People used to think that anyway mind.

Smiff isn't old enough to be my dad! He is possibly my truest friend in all the world though. An amazingly cool, clever man.

I'll come back and flounce tomorrow.

An amazingly cool, clever man.

[img] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=107433 [/img]

No words needed. 😉

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Although I can't grow any sort of beard I do have a few axes, plus some to grind... Mag looks interesting, will back the project when I get a few more bikes out the door. Good luck to you doing something you believe in.

Sam - Singular Cycles

Thank you Sam!

Mods, now that this is linked from the front page, any chance you could amend my OP link to Jamie's kickstarter page instead of the blog?

Post reported 😛

Is it too late for me to give up on STW for Lent?

Thanks Junky.

Not the first time you've done that to me, I'm sure! 😉

Whoa

A 12 year old me at Bike 97 asked for this guy's autograph. I don't know how I feel about that now. Anyway, all the best with the project.

PS only silly people wash jeans more than twice a year. They just don't need it and washing ruins how they feel.

Ah Bike 97, those were the days! And thank you.

This thread inspired me to buy a new pair of jeans. But they were £8 on eBay, rather than £200. That is twice what I paid for my current pair though, so I'm going up in the world.

I've pledged some of what I saved to the Kickstarter. I haven't done that since I preordered a years worth of some new upstart MTB magazine before they'd even written it.

But they were £8 on eBay

Washed or unwashed?

Washed or unwashed?

New with tags 🙂

The advert said "BNWF(ags)" 😆

Steady on guys, stopping the insults was a good thing but stopping short of iDave and Br*nt type hero worship would also be a good thing. FWIW Mike Davis was the one who could write at MBUK. 😉

How are you going to stop Robert Crampton suing your ass? 🙂

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/profile/Robert-Crampton

I've read 6 pages of this now. Can I walk into WHSmiths tomorrow and buy this magazine???!

I've read 6 pages of this now. Can I walk into WHSmiths tomorrow and buy this magazine???!

I've read no pages, but find myself strangely drawn by the content of Jamies and beards.

I'm in and hoping the mag gets it's funding and got a pair of Hiut jeans on my birthday list, looking forward to seeing the results.

razorrazoo

Hmm. Doesn't sound very beard friendly.

*hangs head in despair* (the jeans not the mag)

Jamie - Member
razorrazoo
Hmm. Doesn't sound very beard friendly.

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And I have a beard too, oh the irony. 😀

any chance you could amend my OP link to Jamie's kickstarter page instead of the blog?

Dun.

TVM, Cougar.

May your beard be lustrous and your jean washing indulgent.

Oh, and your axe/cigar/whisky/toothpaste/nutcracker/bogroll/whatever be suitably artisan.

Isn't all bogroll niche?

Also,

Pledged.

Niche is so over. It's all about artisan and craft now. Made with axes, outside your camper van.

Hi Jamie, good luck with the mag, it looks interesting; I may even be part of your demographic, although I've never paid more than around £80 for a pair of jeans, and those were Howies Crash Test Dummy denims. I've got an axe and a beard, though... 😉
I certainly remember you on the mag, we may even have met at some point, as I knew Justin Loretz pretty well, from when he worked in John's Bikes.

And mbuk stories? I was so long ago I can't remember too much, but anything to do with Warner always stressed me the hell out. He broke too much stuff all the time.

Crikey - Smiffy. That brings back great memories of MTB mag, Chas Roberts DOGS BOLX and San Andreas bikes with upside-down forks and early disc brakes.

What's he doing now?

Superficial - Member

PS only silly people wash jeans more than twice a year. They just don't need it and washing ruins how they feel.

Slick with your own man fat?

As another non-jeans washer, I've used the money I've saved on washing powder over the years to pledge. Seemed only fair, and if nothing else I can use the mag to wave around and keep the flies away.

Royalty is visiting my workplace today. I'm wearing my jeans.

That's fine.

Ime, you should fit right in.
Very posh people tend to be filthy too. 😀
And tramps.
Posh people and tramps.

However - I appear to have ruined a nice pair of Vans by washing them this week, which has made me sad.

You've had yours for years - tell me you chuck them in the washing machine now and then?

As another non-jeans washer, I've used the money I've saved on washing powder over the years to pledge. Seemed only fair, and if nothing else I can use the mag to wave around and keep the flies away.

As good a reason as any. I'm in too.

Thanks guys!

And Smiff? Have a look: https://twitter.com/smithpic

You've had yours for years - tell me you chuck them in the washing machine now and then?

My Vans?

Yeah.
I think I've ruined my green and black suede Eras. 😐

I've never washed or cleaned my Vans. They're getting very worn and tatty now: hopefully I'll either not meet HRH Andrew this afternoon or he'll not look down 🙂

But he looks down on everyone. 🙂
Apart from his parents.

Having read a couple of JH era MBUKs BITD I was quite surprised to find Jamie a thoroughly nice & fairly normal chap when I met him on an event we did about 10 years ago. At a time he was, I think, working for Kerrang and I was surprised that he could easily chop from one to the other but I guess it makes sense if you have many differing interests. Makes sense of the method living too.

I like the idea for the mag and those article examples sound great - will be watching with interest. *

Good luck Jamie

* Unlikely to buy it much mind, sorry. I barely get time to read any of the 4 mags I subscribe to now.

But he looks down on everyone.
Apart from his parents.

Well played SIR ....applauds

We have a Dress Down Friday policy here in Shiney Town and by the looks of most of the folks wearing jeans have either just been bought or are washed and pressed each week.. which is nice (as I'm sitting next to someone whose wearing a pair 😀 ) Then we have the cordroy wearing hobo's who think they're all "Landed Gentry" types who look like they've never washed anything or worn anything washed 😆 Then we have the Girlies... 😉

Smiffy is doing all sorts of clever stuff these days - from photography, to horology to very fancy (and nicely designed) road bikes. He's a modern Leonardo...

While we are on the subject of MBUK throwbacks, I randomly bumped into Dave Hemmings in Geveva last weekend. I was there at a promo event with Land Rover, he was working for Rapha and there as part of the Jaguar Sky road team.

Another thoroughly nice chap...

See, there's a lot of love going on with this thread now!

And thanks Speeder, very kind.

Chipps - Smiff's road bikes are lush!

Are any of these jeans red?

If I link to [url= http://beardsandaxes.com/2014/03/13/update-beta-male-magazine/ ]this[/url] will we get stuck in an infinite meta-loop until the Internet melts?

I think that it will if you link to [url= http://www.allhailtheblackmarket.com/2014/03/its-wednesday.html ]this[/url] as well?

Just found a great quote in the Guardian comments, which reminded me of this thread:

What is wrong with young men in the 21st century?
Why, in my day a man was judged according to how many vices he could accumulate. It was great!

Although I read it as Bench vices...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2014/mar/30/yummies-young-urban-males-personal-grooming

Oh dear god