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That's if you don't like tories.
https://stopthetories.vote/
Good one. I voted Green. That site came up with 'hard to call, vote for your preferred progressive party' Sadly I think we'll be Tory again as our local councilor is quite proactive on the local Facebook group dealing with bin complaints and people round here love to hate on the loony lefty Greens running the council and putting cycle lanes everywhere.
I suspect the answer in my area is:
"Sorry but if we gave Hannibal Lecter a blue rosette he'd likely still get a landslide."
I think there might be a couple of lib Dems on local council but there is as much chance of removing our MP as I have of sprouting wings and flying.
I will vote regardless but it feels like a colossal waste of time.
How useless is that. The answer is my wife, in my ward. Highest placed non Tory in the last 2 elections. How can it not know that. Even I could write a program to work that out
I voted tactically for Brexit.
It didn't work out as I'd hoped....
So worried that that isn’t a joke
Well it's telling people to vote for me, so I'm happy.:-)
I've seen that site before but is it still up to scratch?! In my area it's conservative v lib Dems and the other parties hardly get a look in...yet I also get the 'hard to call' response!!
Have voted LibDem2 and Green
It's too eary to be sure but my " I'll never vote Labour again" pledge seems solid so far.
Be interesting to see if I'd stick to it if it ever actually mattered.
In my area it’s conservative v lib Dems and the other parties hardly get a look in…
Surely if you live in an LD target ward you’ll know about it this close to the election, as your hall will be full of Focus leaflets which say “Party X can’t win here - only the LDs can beat Party Y” 🤔
We have a Tory MP , and a Lib Dem/ Independent council.
According to the MP he has secured various funds for projects in the area, which the council seem to be just sat on / refusing to implement.
Apparently we are sat on a goldmine whilst local services have gone to shit.
So he’s saying vote Tory and they’ll make sure the money gets spent. Oh, and his Tory wife is councillor for our local ward.
You could almost be suckered into voting for them to get this money spent ….. then you remember that you shouldn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
So we’re buggered which ever way you vote here
Surely if you live in an LD target ward you’ll know about it this close to the election, as your hall will be full of Focus leaflets which say “Party X can’t win here – only the LDs can beat Party Y”
Correct and we rarely get anything from Labour or Greens as they know it would weaken Lib Dems. But my point is, why is the above website saying 'hard to call'? Unless it also doesn't favour the Lib Dems?
Our area has been run by a Residents Association ever since our houses were built in the 30s.
Lately they been running with plans ( which even the tories oppose) to build 5000 houses on the green belt.
Let’s see how much they get their arses kicked next week.
2 Lib Dem votes and 1 green from me.
The website is just rubbish. It cleary didn’ doesn’t have the data it needs in many areas. FYI it didn’t pick up my wife who is staying for the Green Party. There is a good independent that got in last time. She she got was way a head of Lib Dem and labour
Useful site. Didn't realise I didn't actually have a local election in my area next Thursday!
Surely if not overly impressed with our Tory overlords the answer is to vote for the party who came second last time?
If the Toris got 850 votes, Labour 700, Libdems 125 and Greens 98 then any vote for Libdems or Greens is a waste as they will never be enough to overcome the Tory majority, but 10% swing from Tory to Labour is waay more likely and possible. Or am i missing something.?
Useful site. Didn’t realise I didn’t actually have a local election in my area next Thursday!
Don’t forget your photo id.
Surely if not overly impressed with our Tory overlords the answer is to vote for the party who came second last time?
I agree. A website that did that for you makes sense. Not sure why the website can’t do that
The site isn't particularly good for my ward either. Last result was 45 Con 42 LD 14 Lab. Its flipped to Tory recently after being LD for years, Lab no chance. Yet the site says vote for whichever progressive party... that's what's letting the scum prevail here.
Disappointed that it's not better.
Local elections are odd though, because what you want to elect are good administrators and doers - local authority have little say in policy, they are all about delivery of services. So, in theory, party politics plays less of a part.
Case in point, I may well vote for the Tory candidate in our ward as she's local, and has a record of, frankly, getting shit done, which is what you need in a local authority councillor.
There's no way on earth I'll be voting Tory in the general election mind.
I'm considering deliberately not taking ID and making sure that is recorded in the voting records. In a safe seat. Not sure where to get most value tbh
Case in point, I may well vote for the Tory candidate in our ward as she’s local, and has a record of, frankly, getting shit done, which is what you need in a local authority councillor.
Same here. One local counciller has been independant and is now conservative, but has also been good.
I might choke on my own vomit putting a cross next to a box with conservatives in it, but it feels like a better option than voting for the guy who is barely old enough to vote himself and has zero credentials.
Round here, the candidate standing for re-election is the least visible of the three Tory councillors following last year’s all out. We’ve had his leaflet remaining us of all the stuff his colleagues have done.
Not a whisper from either of the other parties (which is partly my fault as a member of one of them, haven’t exactly rushed to volunteer).
Surely if you can't check the last election results for yourself and figure out which party is most likely to defeat your choice of hated party you are too thick to vote anyway?
Though in fairness it can be tricky. Last UK general election I was in a LibDem/SNP marginal. I had the unenviable choice of voting LibDmb to try and block the SNP but only if I could bring myself to vote for the objectionable Jo Swinson. It ended up being the smallest majority in Scotland and Jo may have lost her seat because the LibDem/Tory council failed to include an indoor bowling hall in the new sports centre. Such is politics.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/angry-indoor-bowlers-got-rid-21149155
Last week I received the council ballot paper with only four parties listed on the ballot paper.
I is disappointed to say the least. You know the situation is bad where there are no other individual candidates apart from the obvious.
Three of them are lefties (Labour, Green an Lib Dem) vs one Tory candidate. All useless.
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The website is useful but not perfect. A few have noted that they get a "hard to call" recommendation. Looking at it this seems to be because they have one or more Independents currently as sitting councillors in their wards which will screw up the algorithm a bit.
FWIW I inputted where I am and it recommended I vote the way that I did when I completed my postal vote yesterday. I'm not holding out much hope though as where I live has been a true blue tory stronghold for so long that that most of the people round here think that Proletariat is a kind of cheese.
I tactically voted Lib Dem once. They them shored up the Tories to give them a majority. They would do it again if it gave them a sniff of power.
It’s always Tory where I live, so I vote for a single issue candidate that I agree with, or Green because I know the candidate and he’s a good guy.
I disagree - they were mugs last time and they’d be mugs again.
“Ooh, well listen to you this time, and you can have a couple of (meaningless) cabinet positions. You’ll be invited to all the big functions, and you’ll probably get a knighthood and a few directorships out of it.”
It even makes a warped sort of sense. It’s the only way the Libs will get any kind of power or influence at all.
Anyway, fool me once …
On the other hand, let’s say they did it.
I’ll tell you right now that electoral reform will be a red line for any coalition agreement, regardless of who it’s with, as it should’ve been in 2010. The Tories will never agree to that simply because FPTP works so much in their favour.
guy who is barely old enough to vote himself and has zero credentials
we had one of those where we lived before .
Attended just enough meetings to make sure he wasn’t kicked out, then spent most of his time up in London where he was studying. Appeared to use his full quota of expenses though 😉
Respectfully I have to disagree again. Politicians - particularly Westminster MPs - are not the same as you and me (though Holyrood seems to be doing it’s best to catch up). They will sell their souls to feel like they are important, we’ve seen it time and time again.
What leads you to believe it would be different this time? Do you thing this generation of liberals have more integrity and sense than the last? I’ve seen no evidence of this, the opposite if anything.
I know this seems cynical, but a few exceptions aside I’ve never seen an MP I’d trust, liberals least of all.
I’ll tell you right now that electoral reform will be a red line for any coalition agreement, regardless of who it’s with, as it should’ve been in 2010.
Did we not get a referendum vote on PR and the public declined it?
You can hardly critcise them for giving us a vote and us saying "no thanks".
@easily It’s not a decision for the politicians though, it’s a decision for the party membership. This is the beauty of a party that believes slightly too much in democracy (which anyone who’s ever seen the federal conference voting pack will corroborate). As above there’s no way the members will sign off a coalition with the Tories again, even if Sir Ed &c were keen, which they aren’t (especially as most of the places LD MPs are likely to get elected are Tory-facing).
@irc I’m glad you raised that. We had a referendum on Alternative Vote, which isn’t a proportional system, unlike AV+ which is used in Scotland and Wales. There’s a decent amount of evidence that public opinion is swinging behind fairer votes, and the UK is (I think) the only country in Europe apart from Belarus that has non-proportional elections. I’m obviously not going to mention the ‘97 Lab manifesto commitment to introduce PR, or the Jenkins Commission.
When we already have multi-member wards at local level, electing by thirds 3 years out of four rather than by, say STV every four years is utter nonsense, and means that everything is paralysed for two months of the year by election purdah.