[Closed] A bit weird or is it me?

That's not weird, she's just deluded. Or stupid. I'd vote latter. Her kids are probably fat as houses 😀

some people are a bit naive

It's funny isn't it. I think sometimes we (as in a lot of us here in STW) live in a world where we think everyone either rides or wants to ride a nice bike, thinks of holidays in terms of "could I cycle while I'm there", thinks that£500+ is fine to spend on a bike, etc etc.

I'm not deriding any of the above, but then, BANG, someone hits you with a statement like that and your bike-world-bubble is just gone...and you think to yourself, Jesus, someone out there thinks like this, and she's not alone.

Puts the treatment you get from some motorists into perspective. Some people just don't get it.

Yep thats exactly what I was thinking DD. Incidentally she rolled up in a 4 X 4. Make of that what you will.

Did you set her straight?

To be honest I was a bit knocked back by it and just did a reasonable gold fish impression while she wattled on.

Nice to know Risk Control Surveyors are good at quantifying risk objectively.

Did you set her straight with a pair of bombers?

FTFY

I had a similar thing happen. But this was more a cultural difference.

The Asian guy in the shop down the road thought it was hilarious that I cycled to work every day when I owned a car. His statement was 'only peasants ride bikes where I come from' (****stan). The concept of anyone doing it through choice baffled him. When I then told him how much my bike cost, he laughed again, then absolutely refused to believe me.

I now do a 30 mile round commute to work now and when I tell people in the office I've cycled the 15 miles in, I get the same reaction as if I'd said I've beamed down from the moon. They think I'm insane! Fine by me. Give or take the odd near-death experience, I'm sure I enjoy my journey a lot more than they do.

I would have definitely quizzed her on her own vehicle choice & ascertained if it was as safe a less stupid car for road use.

At the risk of playing devil's advocate, why [i]do[/i] people ride on the road (with their kids)?

s'normal.
"what are you doing at the weekend" "going for a bike ride" "oh, how far?" "about 50 miles" "for charity?"

randomjeremy - obviously because they cant afford cars. 😉

And so what if she drove a 4x4?

when I tell people in the office I've cycled the 15 miles in, I get the same reaction as if I'd said I've beamed down from the moon.

I think perhaps that most people who don't ride simply have no concept of cycling distances.

I used to work with a bloke who used to think nothing of cycling to Preston - a trip of maybe 15-20 miles. We all thought "bloody hell, there's no way on Earth I could ever do that." It's only when you actually get on a bike that you work out how relatively easy it is to cover distance, especially in favourable conditions.

At the risk of playing devil's advocate, why do people ride on the road (with their kids)?

To get places, because you not supposed to ride on the pavement, there's more space on the roads, it's safer than some cycle lanes. Lots of reasons!

I agree with randomjeremy, why would you want to take your kids out on a bike on the road?

Depends how old they are, how busy the road is, and how good they are I reckon.

You're making the assumption that people actually like their kids. They are expensive to maintain

I agree with randomjeremy. Plus, a lot of people who ride bikes and post on here have the impression that people think they are cool for cycling. No, they think you are having a midlife crisis. Which, you most probably are. 8)

I agree with randomjeremy, why would you want to take your kids out on a bike on the road?

yes, they should be wrapped up in cotton wool and left at home with the curtains drawn and the doors locked.

I, for one, agree with binners.

they should be wrapped up in cotton wool and left at home with the curtains drawn and the doors locked.

Absolutely no arguments here. I think that's far preferable to having them running feral in ASDA whilst I'm trying to buy tomatoes.

I agree with randomjeremy, why would you want to take your kids out on a bike on the road?

yes, they should be wrapped up in cotton wool and left at home with the curtains drawn and the doors locked.

Hardly, one does horseriding and her brother plays rugby and mountainbikes.Its just I do not trust the ****s on the road.

horseriding and rugby both have far higher casualty rates than cycling

a lot of people who ride bikes and post on here have the impression that people think they are cool for cycling

Surely to Christ nobody is that delusional?

I second agreeing with Binners, in both posts!

horseriding and rugby both have far higher casualty rates than cycling

but you won't let them cycle on the road even tho it is less dangerous?

Its just I do not trust the **** on the road.

I've been riding on the road since I was about 10 and never been hit by a car. Kids have to learn road sense sometime and it seems sensible to me for them to do that with their parents. You don't have to take them out in rush hour traffic around town.

but you won't let them cycle on the road even tho it is less dangerous?

fairy snuff then

horseriding and rugby both have far higher casualty rates than cycling

that'll be be the rotational forces I reckon ......

Definitely you. What was the question?

jon1973 - Member

I've been riding on the road since I was about 10 and never been hit by a car. Kids have to learn road sense sometime and it seems sensible to me for them to do that with their parents. You don't have to take them out in rush hour traffic around town.

Oh come on jon you can't come on here with reasonable arguments now can you 😉

Totally agree, going out for bike rides with my father is how I learnt road sense & how to ride confidently on the road.

I've been riding on the road since I was about 10 and never been hit by a car. Kids have to learn road sense sometime and it seems sensible to me for them to do that with their parents. You don't have to take them out in rush hour traffic around town.

That reminded me of something that happened years ago...

I've been riding on the road since I was about 10 and [s]never been hit by a car[/s] I've only hit a car once.

I suppose its because they can't afford to drive

Yes, I spend £3k a year on bike stuff cos I can't afford to drive.

🙄

Wait a moment... with £3k I could buy, tax, insure & run a car for a year!

D'oh!

I like my kids riding on the road - it's the first step to developing some road sense and giving them a feeling of independence, plus they love burning me off. I'm with Don and Jon.

The don't half clank in all that armour I've made for them mind.

Interestingly I assumed the OPs post was to suggest the risk assessor thought that the people couldn't afford a car, so had to cycle everywhere, not that she thought it was too dangerous to let your kids cycle on the road.

It could be a cultural thing, in some cultures bicycles are associated with being being too poor to afford a car.

Yes, I spend £3k a year on bike stuff cos I can't afford to drive.

Wait a moment... with £3k I could buy, tax, insure & run a car for a year!

D'oh!

But there's absolutely no reason at all to spend 3K a year on running a bike. Nor a car.

I suggest it is probably a cultural thing, most people assume you'll take a car unless you can't afford it.

Interestingly I assumed the OPs post was to suggest the risk assessor thought that the people couldn't afford a car, so had to cycle everywhere, not that she thought it was too dangerous to let your kids cycle on the road.

I think you're right, but then whenever the whole kids-on-bikes/in trailers-on-roads thing crops up it all gets a bit helmet-debatey.

Quite odd though, you'd of thought the risk assessor would've focussed more on the perceived danger side of things rather than just making assumptions about the OPs income. Mind you, if anyone should know about the danger (or lack of) on the roads to cyclists it should be a risk assessor, so maybe she just viewed it the same as any other form of road transport? Bit surprised if it was this, but maybe I'm just being unfair on her...

most people assume you'll take a car unless you can't afford it

That confirms my theory that most people are stupid.

(But yes, if I were to be serious for a brief nano-second, it's a cultural thing).

randomjeremy - Member
At the risk of playing devil's advocate, why do people ride on the road (with their kids)?

Because we're allowed to. If cyclists grovel and allow motorised vehicles to think they have primacy on the roads, then cycling might as well die.
I was pleased when my son's school class were offered the opportunity of an after school bike ride by their bikeability instructor, was funny to pick him up afterwards as he stood in the small gang of kids, camelbak on, like any of us would do just talking and having a laugh after a ride they'd enjoyed.