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So on the same basis, lance could claim he didn't know what this whole EPO thing was about, and can I have my yellow t shirts back please?
You've got to love the footballing authorities for their utter and complete shamelessness...
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On the other subject, any Chelski fans want to comment on Jose's remarks about finally being at a genuinely great premiership club? 😆
Jesus, he's barely wiped his feet and you're blowing smoke up his arse already. 😀
I'd say the premierships already ours next season Bravissimo, but I've already put my money on Burnley! 😉
Come on Atletico!
That was a lovely goal, so it was. 🙂
Atletico need to win this as karmic retribution for [url= https://streamable.com/4p4o ]Pepe[/url].
as a neutral, I'd say absolutely fair comment!On the other subject, any Chelski fans want to comment on Jose's remarks about finally being at a genuinely great premiership club?
Ronaldo looks like he's been hitting the same bronzer they use at bodybuilding comps.
Come on Athletico!!!!
Ronaldo is picking his day to have a bad day at the office
Extra time I reckon....
*jinx*
Ronaldo needs a Scouse brow to complete the look 🙂
If "scouse brow" is slang for being headbutted in the face, then I agree.
I realise I'm now just repeating what McManaman said but fair dues to Clattenburg - he's reffed that game well.
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I reckon penalties should be banned, it's a crap way to win somethig, particular in cup finals.
Dissapointed not see Athletico win. Pleased for Zidane though and hope Bale is fit for the Euros
Arse! I didn't used to mind him when he was our *! But now he's just a *!
In a worrying development, Mrs Binners (who's a bloody Bolton fan FFS!) has spent the day chanting Joseeee Maaaaariniooooo in the style of a shit thick Chelski meathead. I'm hoping the novelty wears off soon
[quote=seosamh77 ]I reckon penalties should be banned, it's a crap way to win somethig, particular in cup finals.
yes something this important should not be won this way
If there's a silver lining, it's Simeone not winning something, the sneaky cock.
Pepe is up there with Donald Trump in the dis-likeable stakes isn't he? What a clown.
Regarding sneaky cocks, seems like a good time for a repost of Ronaldo and his BIG trophy . What a pronounced trophy it is!
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Just seen that Pepe thing - seriously? This is the sort of thing that fifa/uefa need to give players bans for.
I got the feeling Clattenburg considered booking him for one of them and would than have had to send him off as he was on a yellow. Someone's got to deal with it though and if they do start dishing out cards it will stop.
Lol at the Ronaldo statue! Photoshop surely?!
Nah the photo is real. It's a self commissioned statue of Ronaldo in his town of birth I think. If you haven't seen the film 'Ronaldo' it is fantastic . His ego and self drive are incredible. It's hard to watch it and not to come away with the feeling that Ronaldo must shout his own name during sex
Clatternberg should have given a second yellow it was a joke. Also the Ramos yellow could have been more. Overall I thought it was a pretty dull game overall typical Spanish big game with loads of fouls and dives that ruin the game and prevent it from being free flowing.
Penalties are good. The players were wrecked only way of finishing it really.
You really have to wonder what is going on inside some people's heads....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-36412814
Danny Drinkwater didn't make the squad? Ok then 😐
[b][u]Goalkeepers[/u][/b]
Joe Hart (Manchester City)
Tom Heaton (Burnley)
Fraser Forster (Southampton).
[b][u]Defenders[/u][/b]
John Stones (Everton)
Nathaniel Clyne (Liverpool)
Chris Smalling (Manchester United)
Ryan Bertrand (Southampton)
Kyle Walker (Tottenham)
Gary Cahill (Chelsea)
Danny Rose (Tottenham).
[b]Midfielders[/b]
Adam Lallana (Liverpool)
Dele Alli (Tottenham)
Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
Raheem Sterling (Man City)
Ross Barkley (Everton)
Eric Dier (Tottenham)
Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
James Milner (Liverpool).
[b]Forwards[/b]
Jamie Vardy (Leicester City)
Marcus Rashford (Man Utd)
Wayne Rooney (Man Utd)
Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
Harry Kane (Tottenham).
Going out first round.
At least two of those players will get no game time as they're not remotely match fit, on account of being made of glass FFS! Its not even worth paying for their flights! Theres another 2 or 3 on there that have had absolutely woeful seasons, and are going purely on the strength of their transfer fees, or perceived transfer fees.
Then there's Jordon Henderson.
not many winner medals in that mid field.
And a weak looking defensive group too.
Our best 11 out of that lot would probably only just make the top half of the premier league table if they were a club team.
We have actually just left a midfielder at home who has played every single game he was entitled to play in over the entire season, who has won the Premier League playing in a 4-4-2 and has quite rightly been praised all season by those with eyes for playing an all round and versatile role.
In his place we have a player who has not even played 5 games in the entire season.
We have someone in Jordan Henderson who isn't fit to clean the lads boots.
Tell me Woy, if Danny Drinkwater played for Liverpool and Henderson played for the current English champions, would you be taking Henderson?
On the Brightside the lad is better off out of this circus, I just wish he'd left Vardy at home as well to avoid the inevitable playing out of position.
On the plus side, at least it's one less player to get crocked at the Euros for LCFC.
It's like Wilshere is taking the bullet for Drinkwater 😀
I think it's a decent squad , sorry. Drinkwater is maybe unlucky but I guess he wants a blend of experience and wildcards.
Hopefully the experience is able to find it's way from the treatment table to the wildcards left on the pitch.
Drinkwater should have made the squad, no question imho. Wilshire and Llana in, really you couldn't make it up !
If a combination of Varney, Kane, Rooney, Rashford can't fill the 1 or 2 forwards spots then we are lost.
That England team has doesn't look like it has anyone to control the midfield bar Dier, who's going to be rather busy me thinks. How does Wilshire get picked over Drinkwater ridiculous?
Image and club prestige over form and merit.
Alli and Dier the only 2 midfielders truly worth the entry fee.
Henderson and Milner 😆
If a combination of Varney, Kane, Rooney, Rashford can't fill the 1 or 2 forwards spots then we are lost.
He'll probably play Varney on the left....or even on the buses.
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@scandal42 None of the members of that squad are on the treatment table , I don't get your point?
I don't get your point?
Really 😀
Old glass legs Wilshere and cheese strings Sturridge
How much has Lord Henderson played recently? never mind played to a standard matching anything like Drinkwater.
Don't worry. Woys packed a couple of these for Wilshere and Sturridge to get around on...
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When my daughter plays footy on a Saturday, I tend to kick the ball back to them if it goes out of play. I reckon that means I've had more match time than either of those pair this season 😆
I don't understand the point of taking Sturridge and Rashford, could have just taken one and then Drinkwater.
Don't even get me started of Rashford.
That's what a few games at Manu Utd get's you over a full campaign and winning the title at an imposter like Leicester.
Wilshere isn't injured.
Roy i suppose wants to show some loyalty in that they won all their qualifiers, and he played in over half of those and got 3-4 man of the matches I think including that great one against Slovenia away. It's an attacking squad as our defense is poor! I think Rashford should definitely go, he is class .i don't think they need 9 midfielders so hence Rashford and Sturridge
Wilshere isn't injured YET
FTFY
5 attacker 3 centre backs
Odd weighting and two many injury risks in midfield as well
Feel sorry for Drinkwater he deserved it and there is a weighting to the "Big Teams"
It's an attacking squad as our defense is poor!
You defend from the front, by (1) not losing the ball and (2) when the opposition try and play it out then the front lines of Kane, Vardy, Llana and Alli will be working hard to win the ball back high up the pitch.
Junkyard there are really 4 center backs as Dier can play in there as well. Actually you are right it is only 3 as Stones is ****ing useless.
Anyone can play in any position but Dier is a midfielder who used to be a defender;he showed in his last outing in defence just how proficient he is in defence having not played there for a few years.
Where you defend from depends entirely on where you lose the ball.
Pressing the ball high up the pitch needs the familiarisation of teams that play together week in and week out, it is harder for international teams to have that kind of understanding, you just end up with Rooney chasing the ball all over the pitch like a headless chicken.
Tbh got a sneaky feeling it might be England's year this year, for no other reason than youse seem uncharacteristically subdued about your chances.
Uefa rankings tool.
I'd like to meet this tool, and tell him his moniker is apt.
Pressing the ball high up the pitch needs the familiarisation of teams that play together week in and week out
TBH It is also much more difficult to do against international teams as every player is comfortable o the ball.
Sapin will show how to pass your way out of this and just tire the opposition into mistakes
Dier regularly drops into the central defence for Spurs when the wing backs ate attacking to make a back 3. Also has played as part of a central pairing at times this season also. I don't think Dier as a emergency center back is that big a worry for England Tbh.
On pressing high England aren't facing Spain but Slovakia, Wales and Russia that's who they need to get past initially.
You defend from the front, by (1) not losing the ball and (2) when the opposition try and play it out then the front lines of Kane, Vardy, Llana and Alli will be working hard to win the ball back high up the pitch.
Ideally, yes, but it's not the type of game I've ever seen England play, and Roy is not really a manager I'd expect to change things.
With the exception of Gary Cahill, how much champions league experience is in that defence?. It may work though, young and hungry, as to be fair the big names have flattered to deceive for England for years.
Dier becomes critical at this rate as the only defensive midfielder and he's expected to cover central defence too. If only there had been another defensive midfielder in the initial squad.
We are lining up in a manner that suggests a slow and laboured approach will be taken to games.
We have a potential squad of players who all play fast and efficient turnover styles with club sides.
Roy has looked at the exciting styles our players play for their club sides and has decided we will go with the Man Utd model 😆
He's taken every striker he can get his hands on in a pathetic hope that one of them will miraculously thrive wide on the left.
so besides Drinkwater, who else has been left out that should have made the midfield? Genuine Q, because there's a lot of frothing at the mouth going on here, but i don't see a wealth of other options.
Don't worry about the individuals
1. Practice set pieces to give us a chance of scoring (30% of time)
2. Practice penalties to save the usual exit (70% of time)
3. Slipt the refs some brown envelopes
Err, that's it
in 2010 our forward line consisted of Defoe, Crouch, Wright Phillips and the 47 year old EMILE BLOODY HESKEY.
so cheer up you miserable gits, we're obviously not gonna win but at least we might have some fun not doing it
I don't understand the point of taking Sturridge and Rashford, could have just taken one and then Drinkwater.
This a million times. Rashford's in for the publicity, hot young talent, bit of a wildcard blah blah blah
I haven't watched Liverpool much this season (just the europa final) but Milner was even more of a plodder than I remember him. How he is picked ahead of Drinkwater I just can't understand.
Benzeema has been throwing his toys out of the pram, not selected due to "racism" apparently ! Nothing to do with openly refusing to sing the national anthem, repeatedly telling the press he doesn't feel French and only plays for the prestige, profile and money .. oh yes and being involved in a blackmail scam against a team mate.
Benzeema has been throwing his toys out of the pram, not selected due to "racism" apparently ! Nothing to do with openly refusing to sing the national anthem, repeatedly telling the press he doesn't feel French and only plays for the prestige, profile and money .. oh yes and being involved in a blackmail scam against a team mate.
And generally being a bit rapey.
Quick question...
Would Rashford be in the squad if he had the exact same record and played for Sunderland?
Not a chance Scandal.
Although to be fair, he looked to fit in very well, from what I have seen he deserves his place in the squad.
Contrary to Drinkwater, who had a fair season playing hos part for Leicester, but looked lost when given a go for England.
Although to be fair, he looked to fit in very well, from what I have seen he deserves his place in the squad.Contrary to Drinkwater, who had a fair season playing hos part for Leicester, but looked lost when given a go for England.
Is this for real?
A player who has a handful of professional games 'deserves' to play for England?
And Drinkwater looked lost for England when he get MOTM on his debut and has played once since?
Also you must have a very different definition of what the word 'fair' means in this instance, he had an incredible season where he had an outright massive impact on his club winning the English premier League 😕
I know Rashford scored a few decent goals, but he also gave away the ball a lot and went missing in games. Raw talent yes, but enough all round footballing ability, no.
I assume they are taking him because Roy is going to play 2 up top, which quite frankly is all a bit 90's and shows he learnt nothing from the World cup.
The defence is poor. Woy is going all out Kevin Keegan, contrary to his usual defensive style, it could be entertaining!
@scandal I think your point about Sunderland and Rashford is relevant, however he has performed the way he has for United , one of the biggest clubs in the world with all the pressure that come with it. He got into to a team that was pushing for CL and won the fa cup. That isn't a fluke. Nor is it Sunderland ... 🙂
I loathe United but he is class . It is a risk of course , but I like it!
Tbh got a sneaky feeling it might be England's year this year, for no other reason than youse seem uncharacteristically subdued about your chances.
He'll learn! 😕
Anyway, just because Jack Wheelchair gets injured a lot, you don't drop him in case it happens again. Plus, he's fresh which must have its benefits against players who have played all season. Obviously Drinkwater has had a great season, but the lack of experience must count against him.
I think we could field a variety of teams and set ups, but its down to the players to put it together on the day, which rarely seems to happen. Lets hope that changes this time.
Drinkwater has had a great season, but the lack of experience must count against him.
This comment i find bizarre he's just been in a team that won the Premier League, he has also won the Championship and has previously played in 4 division play off games which are high pressure. What has Jack Wilshere done that's better? He has 2 FA Cups and that's about it, and they both played for England at U18/U19 level.
Jack played in I think 6 of the qualifying internationals . They won them all ...
What has Jack Wilshere done that's better?
and...been playing CL for more years than I care to look up....starting at 16 yrs old!
1) Qualifying isn't tournament football
2) JW has only played 5 champions league matches in the last 2 seasons
@scandal it's about a bit more than his record, getting a contract at ManU and breaking into the first team is a bit more of a tall order than doing the same at Sunderland.
Wilshire wouldn't last 3 matches in a row at the Euros he's not in good enough shape, small wager from me he doesn't play at all.
he's fresh which must have its benefits against players who have played all season
I have not done a road race this year so those Tour De France boys best be worried as i am obviously [s]just peaking[/s] fresh 😉
What do you want to wager jamby as I am in ?
he's just been in a team that won the Premier League, he has also won the Championship and has previously played in 4 division play off games which are high pressure
Played in championship play offs...I bet spain/germany/france were shitting it that England picked him 😀
1) Qualifying isn't tournament football
2) JW has only played 5 champions league matches in the last 2 seasons
3) and your point is...?
@scandal it's about a bit more than his record, getting a contract at ManU and breaking into the first team is a bit more of a tall order than doing the same at Sunderland.
Get what you are saying but it's easy and not true.
Tell me a better striker at Utd than Defoe is at Sunderland?
There is nobody to get in front of at Man Utd, they don't have any competition hence him playing in the 1st place.