[Closed] 6music's britpop season

was listening to Lamacq earlier, quite interesting listening back to stuff i grew up with

Big memories for me too, 1994 and Britpop perfectly coincided with my first year at uni

Now i'm wondering is there are any mark and lard shows online anywhere...

Now i'm wondering is there are any mark and lard shows online anywhere...

If you find any let me know!

It always makes me smile when The Shirehorses come up on random on my phone.

I must be in the minority then. If I hear Lammo mention Brit pop one more time I'll switch over to Heart FM.

BBC radio becomes XFM for the week.

Im with monkfish (apart from heart fm)

Brit pop was just tedious

I was so disappointed to get to uni and hear oasis being played out of every single window in student halls.
I really thought that after 6th form it couldn't get any worse

There was a [i]wee[/i] bit more to Britpop™ © ® than bloody Oasis, but, yes, most of it seemed to be mostly Indy Landfill™ © ®, like Menswear, Gay Dad, (for the love of Christ!), and loads more who's names left little or no impression at the time. Blur, Catatonia, Curve, Kenickie, Elastica, Sleeper and Lush are about the only bands from that period that left any lasting impression on me.
The fact that all bar one were fronted by attractive girls is pure coincidence... 😉

Agree there CountZero - some of the most dated sounding music ever.
Some of Blur's songs last the test of time, but hardly any others.
They must be struggling to fill the shows! Most of the bands only have 1 or 2 decent songs too.
God how I hated Shed bloody Seven.

When britpop crossed over with dance. Chemical brothers and prodigy started to become more mainstream.
Britpop really did give the music industry a damn good kick up the ass, shame it's all give to shizzer again with talentless TV shows giving us talentless singers.
The only thing that keeps me going is good quality rock music, some of it is worth hunting for.

Don't forget Nilon Bombers - Superstar

Countzero, you missed Pulp!
😉

Now I don't get how Oasis were lumped in with Britpop. The only connection I can see is a timing one, their music was pretty much straight up rock 'n' roll as far as I could see.

Pulp are still my favorite ever band.

[i]Now I don't get how Oasis were lumped in with Britpop[/i]

They weren't "lumped in", they were responsible for it!

I'm fed up with it too 🙂 And- it makes me feel very old.

To my mind, the best "britpop" album ever was released 3 years prior to all this, transcended the lot of them, prefigured chunks of it, and blended elements of Britain, British culture, TV, movies, books and music, in ways I've not heard since.

I'm meaning "Pure" by The Times, Edward Ball's main project at the time. It makes everything classed as Britpop seem very shallow to my ears.

IMO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_(The_Times_album)

I enjoyed it at the time as a 14 year old but have no desire to re-visit it

the 'grass!

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/nineties-generation-to-make-formal-apology-for-britpop-2014041085596

A slight return....

Bluetones - case in point! I loved them back then, but man they sound attracious now. What was I thinking?! 😆

I'm firmly in the deeply uninterested camp.
I can respect some of the output, like Pulp, Blur, Supergrass but wouldn't buy it.

Most of the rest is instantly forgettable. Wasn't it just a big (successful) marketing weapon to flog stuff?

I must be in the minority then. If I hear Lammo mention Brit pop one more time I'll switch over to Heart FM.

BBC radio becomes XFM for the week.

This. Precisely and completely this. Am avoiding 6music until the weekend.

Whenever I hear the Bluetones Slight Return, it does make me think of this (pre-Britpop classic)

For me this is the anthem

And the Anti-Britpop

Countzero, you missed Pulp!

No, I didn't miss them, I never really was that fond of them. I didn't dislike them by any means, but I've never been inclined to buy any of their music.
I do have undying respect for Jarvis' little Michael Jackson protest, though...
I dug out a folder I have full of set-lists acquired from various gigs over the years, starting from 1985, and there are bands there I can't even remember!
Does anyone remember Solar Race? Supported Lush at Bath Moles in '95. Goya Dress, Bristol Bierkeller in '96; Tongue, supporting Tiny Monro at Bath Moles in'96, (actually, Tongue were originally called The Julie Dolphin, came from NZ, and went back there eventually, I have a copy of their only album).
Then there's Linoleum, saw them supporting Tiger, a great band, sadly disappeared without trace; Frenté; Capri, supported Fluffy at Bath Moles in '96, Symposium, NME Bratbus Tour in '97, along with Tiger and Geneva; The Slingbacks, Bristol Louisiana in '97; Bis, supported Luscious Jackson in '97; Mainstream, supported Catatonia in '97; Warm Jets, supported The Wannadies in '97; Feline, supported Linoleum, '97; Magoo, supported Linoleum, '97; Arnold, supported Tanya Donelly, '97; Scott 4, supporting The High Llamas, '98; Wireless, supporting Dubstar, '98; Libido, supporting Sleeper, '98; Crashland, supporting Carrie, '98, Little America, supporting Feline, '98; Six by Seven*, supporting Warm Jets, '98, Hillman Minx, supporting theaudience, '98...
Hillman Minx were great, the lead singer came up to me and my mate and bought us drinks because we were enjoying them so much! Never happened before or since. 😐
theaudience kicked their lead singer out a bit later because they thought she was getting too much attention. Sophie Ellis Bextor went on to have quite a career; as for the band...
Same with all the others, and many more; where did they all go? Even those bands that had a fair degree of success finally broke up; Dubstar, Catatonia, Sleeper, Lush...
*Six By Seven were really good, very loud and they recently did a local gig, but it conflicted with someone else, so I missed them, sadly.
Seems extraordinary now, just how many bands were touring during the 90's, and just vanished without trace; without my collection of set-lists, I'd completely forgotten almost all of them.
And pretty much all totally unconnected to Britpop, although most were British indy-pop bands.

Britpop bored the tits off me. Pulp, though - a quality outfit. Miles ahead of anyone else of that ilk.
I like bands who reach an apotheosis - after something like [i]this is hardcore [/i] you just have to split up. Nothing more can be said.

The thing about Britpop, is that the rubbish bands have been mostly forgotten and the few good bands are mostly remembered, it never really went away (and now that everyone that listened to the songs in high school is in their 30s and has stacks of influence and buying power, you can't get away from it) So it's one of the "scenes" that least needs to be revisited. Dead on arrival, the 90s revival...

(having said that I saw Therapy? on monday and I'm off to see the Wildhearts next monday, so what do I know?)

The thing about Blur that people forget is that they had been going for years before the whole Britpop thing. Pulp and Blur were OK the rest were shite and Oasis especially so. So writes a Stourbridge Greebo.

Menswear seem to be getting a lot of air time/chat time on this 6music feature. I don't remember them being either very good, or very successful?.

wikipedia possibly has a clue:

Drummer Matt Everitt was fired in 1996 and later joined The Montrose Avenue,[1] he now works on the news team at Radio station 6Music

Menswear seem to be getting a lot of air time/chat time on this 6music feature. I don't remember them being either very good, or very successful?

They were a joke!
Saw them supporting someone in a little club and they were trying so hard to fit into the "Britpop" genre, it was a bit embarrassing.
Bloke at work bought their album cos he knew we were into that sort of stuff, oh how we took the piss.

It's very popular to knock oasis, but the first two albums were good. Then they began [s]taking too much coke[/s] believing their own hype and it all went downhill.

They grafted for those first albums, lot's of touring small venues and then boom they went global. Compare that to the utter dross of the 80's (all that Stock, Aitken & Waterman manufactured pop) and the current Simon Cowell horror show which not only dominates the airwaves with cover versions of recent songs combined with the monopoly of Saturday night prime time TV. They weren't that bad, neither was the britpop genre, at least they were musicians rather than people who wanted to be "celebrities".

I loved Oasis when I first heard them (on The Word iirc) and saw them in a tiny club with about 100 people, still can remember Noel's guitar ringing around the walls, Liam's wannabe Johnny stance... but as I said earlier, the sound is just so [i]dated[/i].
There are only about 2 of their songs I can listen to now without cringing. Supersonic is a good ditty.

the sound is just so dated.

I believe the correct expression is "of it's era". I like some 70's music, but the disco stuff is definitely of it's era, as is some of the Glam...

The thing about Blur that people forget is that they had been going for years before the whole Britpop thing.

Aye, and Pulp released there first album in '83!

I got into pulp when his and hers was released, then managed to see them in Birmingham at the Que Club. Great gig, they were just starting to play the tracks from Different Class in their sets. The atmosphere was great.

I love "do you remember the first time", and Babies for the line " I only went with her 'cause she looks like you" Priceless!

And lipgloss is great too. I think it's a tough call between "His 'n' hers" and "Different Class". His 'n' Hers should have one the Mercury Music Prize in '94, after all where are M-People now?

Aye, and Pulp released there first album in '83!

But "Modern Life is Rubbish"....

Menswear seem to be getting a lot of air time/chat time on this 6music feature. I don't remember them being either very good, or very successful?.

Exactly. All the air-time is taking the piss, Matt's 'The First Time' interview with himself is a complete piss-take! I'd like to know what the other ex-members make of it...
I only heard the listeners top 40 on Sean's show in the morning, and my God it was tedious! According to a mate who heard the later half all the good stuff like Elastica, Catatonia, Lush, Echobelly, etc was played, but hardly any of that was 'Britpop' anyway, more post-punk.
No matter how much effort is put into trying to make out Britpop had a lot of influence, the reality is that, like punk, most of the music that came out of it was completely forgettable, in fact, there's probably more music from the couple of years of the punk 'explosion' that's played on 6Records than there is Britpop. From Britpop, there's Blur, Pulp and Oasis, from Punk there's Costello, Ian Dury, The Clash, The Jam, The Stranglers, Wire, Blondie, Television, Talking Heads, XTC, X-Ray Spex, The Ramones, the Undertones...
I'm really looking forward to the Irish music season, lots of interesting stuff there.

Just for fun.. (ok, who else is sad enough to keep all their tickets?!)
Some of my Britpop gigs:
Pulp & Elastica was one of my best gigs ever - but only because I got to shake the hand of Joe Strummer, who was there watching the bands 🙂

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Anyone remember Salad??

Anyone remember Salad??

I have a Salad album in my collection somewhere. Haven't played it for years. Think I'll dig it out.

I think the best song they did was on the Help charity album. They did a cover of Dream a little dream with Terry Hall.

The thing about Blur that people forget is that they had been going for years before the whole Britpop thing. Pulp and Blur were OK the rest were shite and Oasis especially so. So writes a Stourbridge Greebo.

You must have caught the 2 Pathfinder JB's gigs that Blur played then? Apparently the first one was a turning point in their career!

I had a few of tickets from those tours too. The Supergrass and Blutones one actually said 'Super Grass and the Blue Tunes' on the ticket for the Coventry gig, and then they cancelled anyway.
Best one I went to was The Longpigs. Not really Britpop but their music sounds good now and Richard Hawley the best male solo artist of the last 10 years.

Ah, loved the Longpigs.

I like the idea that Oasis's sound is now dated. It was dated when it came out, that was kind of the point?

'It sounds dated' = 'Music I banged on about endlessly at the time that I now feel embarrassed about'. 😀

I was at uni 94 - 97 and I was very surprised to hear pulp @ no 1 in the 6 count down ahead of the Verve and Oasis. Not saying it's not worthy of top 5 but no 1???

Countzero, I beg to differ. Technically, The Stranglers were part of the 70's pubrock scene, so they were to punk what pulp were to Britpop. A lot of the other acts you mentioned were "New-Wave" rather than punk. Pure "punk" acts weould be more like the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Adverts, Slits, Buzzcocks, Ramones. Punk was dead by '77, with a number of bigger acts having "sold out", split up and the new wave acts were in the ascendency. having siad that they sold out, not many of them weren't in it for the money...
I'm off to see the Damned in 11 days! Happy Days.

tenfoot - Salad were good, I have Drink the Elixir album and it still gets played regularly. I particularly like the song "your ma".

djglover, I'd put Pulp at No. 1 over Oasis and the Verve every time.

I loved Oasis at the time, but really can't listen to them now apart from Cloudburst (B side to Live Forever). Favourite band from before britpop, that carried right through, but often dip below the radar are The Charlatans.

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Ah, loved the Longpigs.

Jeeeeeeeesuuuus Christ, i'm on fiiiire

The thing about Blur that people forget is that they had been going for years before the whole Britpop thing. Pulp and Blur were OK the rest were shite and Oasis especially so. So writes a Stourbridge Greebo.

Indeed, some of the Seymour stuff, which formed many of blurs B-sides are fantastic. They were a lot less refined during the Seymour days but still good.

tenfoot - Salad were good, I have Drink the Elixir album and it still gets played regularly. I particularly like the song "your ma".

Just dug out the cd, to play in the car tomorrow morning. I'd forgotten it was a limited edition package with a 24 page colour photo book.

Bet it's worth, ooh at least a fiver, on ebay.

EDIT: there's one for £1.30 Buy it now 😆

Countzero, I beg to differ. Technically, The Stranglers were part of the 70's pubrock scene, so they were to punk what pulp were to Britpop. A lot of the other acts you mentioned were "New-Wave" rather than punk. Pure "punk" acts weould be more like the Pistols, Clash, Damned, Adverts, Slits, Buzzcocks, Ramones. Punk was dead by '77, with a number of bigger acts having "sold out", split up and the new wave acts were in the ascendency. having siad that they sold out, not many of them weren't in it for the money...

Well, yeah, particularly with hindsight, but when I was going to see them, it was all 'punk', but I was never a punk, just a guy with 501's, converse baseball boots, and a leather bike jacket, which meant I kind of fitted in regardless, and US and UK punk was different to an extent. I've always kinda struggled with musical genres anyway, I like what I like, a label is for someone else to worry about, although it does make it a bit easier to find in the racks!
But I do take your point, although I still think that Punk/New Wave has left behind a far greater legacy of good music that is still being played thirty seven years on, compared to how much is still played from the Britpop period; even the better stuff, Elastica, Kenickie, Lush, Echobelly, which, to use your point, aren't really Britpop, rarely get played even on 6Music, sadly.
Thinking about it, Talking Heads* first album [i]'77[/i], while sitting in the right timeframe, certainly isn't punk, far too arty, same with Television, right time, but too clever by 'alf, really. 😀
Damn, could play games with music genres all night, and just go round in ever decreasing circles, it largely comes down to semantics, I guess. Look at Billy Bragg, really he's a folky, but was considered sort of punk to start with, and what about John Cooper Clark, he's a poet!
*And they had Dire Straits as support when I saw them! At least Television had Blondie and the Cortinas... 😉

Elastica, Kenickie, Lush, Echobelly, which, to use your point, aren't really Britpop, rarely get played even on 6Music, sadly.

Of course all those were bands were Britpop. It wasn't a "sound" - it was a period when lots of British guitar bands suddenly got signed, got in the top 40 and got featured on the cover of magazines.

I think what you are missing is that Britpop wasn't a type of music like Punk it was marketing label. The rise of Oasis and the movement of Blur and Pulp into the charts was simply a marketing drive when some of the indie bands from the previous few years 1990-1994 or whatever, like for example The Wonderstuff, had a few minor chart hits. It meant the record labels saw some worth in backing a few bands. The success of Nirvana and REM in the States and over here helped too.
And the legacy we are left with?

****ing Coldplay!!!

**** Coldplay!!!

And the tumbleweed blows through the deserted concert venue.

Menswear (just think about how utterly boll0cks that band name is) were a manufactured band, the album deal was there and songs already fleshed out before the band was picked out. People think they were crap because they were