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I only check this thread to see if Steve Lurpak has buggered off.
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Ah crap more Huw Stephens 😬 We need more Gideon Coe 👍😁
Ah crapmore Huw Stephens😬We need moreand Gideon Coe 👍😁
FTFY 😉🙃
Happy days!
I still get flashbacks whenever I hear an airhorn.
Where will I go to listen to Elastica and stories about working for NME?
He never plays the 2nd Elastica album though, does he.
What bothers me about 6 Music, and I largely exempt Marconi and Lurpak from this, the holier than thou attitude - like 6 music invented actual non-mainstream music or something. There have been moments, Tom R playing Feed1 by autechre before he'd bothered listening to it being one. But it's blanding itself into the shitbin. Marconi has played my stuff a couple of times, so he's okay forever.
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.
😉
But it’s blanding itself into the shitbin.
There's a lot of 'meh' nowadays for me, for sure.
Marconi has played my stuff a couple of times
That's cool - any links to your tracks @wordnumb?
scuttler
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I only check this thread to see if Steve Lurpak has buggered off.F I N A L L Y
I'd missed this - hurrah! Maybe 6Music's changes actually *are* progress!
Obviously depends what's about - they have nailed the flag very much to the "new music" mast since the schedule change and that is very much dependent on availability. Also depends what you like. I'm probably a bit MOR compared to some and 10% of the stuff they play I find not to my taste but I'm kind of glad it's there.
I'm in the disappointed about Lamacq camp - I really quite like him.
(meh, can't make it post bandcamp player link)
That's them, thanks for asking. Bittersweet self-promotion as the guitarist recently lost his L forefinger to a dog. Despite a surgeon grafting part of his big toe to the stump it ain't quite the same apparently. Never a dull moment, unlike 6 Music.
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I only check this thread to see if Steve Lurpak has buggered off.
I’m similar but just waiting for that cretin Chris Hawkins to leave the early breakfast show.
Marconi has played my stuff a couple of times, so he’s okay forever.
Self-interest, much?
Where will I go to listen to Elastica
Dunno, by my counting, (I actually went through about a month and a half of his show’s playlists) he played them around twice a month, you could always just buy their albums…
rockbus
I’m similar but just waiting for that cretin Chris Hawkins to leave the early breakfast show.
I love Chris Hawkins so hopefully that balances that out.
Names in songs is required listening in our house.
Yes, names in songs is one of the greatest things on earth.
Hip hip Huw ray.
at last. Presumably he’ll find a home at some point on Absolute 90’s. Though his tastes might be a bit narrow for them.
Will say it again, my problem with the focus on 'new music' is that, well, ALL music is new music if you've never heard it before (much like 'all music is world music'). I'm sure I'll have heard more new artists to me on some of Ezra Furman's guest shows than on the new evening show which can end up with a lot of similar sounding productions sometimes. A long lost session that sounds noticeably different to the single release can be just as interesting as something just released.
Discovered this recently as a case in point
I love Chris Hawkins so hopefully that balances that out.
He's referred to as creepy Chris Hawkins in our house. I think he's a wrong-un.
Ha! I'll give the first Elastica album a spin in memoriam later.
hightensionline
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Ha! I’ll give the first Elastica album a spin in memoriam later.
...and I'll talk in an incredibly nasal monotonous voice about how I single-handedly discovered some indie band, and play a random selection of middling 90s tracks in honour of him finally leaving...
He'll be back on Monday's only from January, but yep, it's time.
Between the Radio 2-esqe pop-lite and whiney rap that seems to be gaining airtime recently my 6 Music days may be numbered.
More and more often the radio starts up in the car and I wonder if the kids have re-tuned it to play a joke on me, but nope, it's the playlist 😮
I unlike a few on here, am quite sad Steve Lurpack is cutting back but appreciate things must change and wish him all the best in semi-retirement.
Still not sure about the new music show, like the presenters just wish Riley & Coe were on earlier and there was a bit less "new" in those 2 hours I'm mostly in the kitchen.
**** me you lot can moan.
I'm happy for Lamacq to be taking a step back on his terms, but the show sounds tired.
The evening changes are nothing short of a disaster as far as I'm concerned; Riley & Coe is a superb 2 hours of music, but it's a poor replacement for the 5 hours of top-notch broadcasting we had before.
The New Music Fix is a good concept, with great presenters, but just at the wrong time. I feel it should have replaced Tom Robinson's show on a Sunday, which would make it more concise. Combine it with Sounds episodes that could be played in the middle of the night as well, and it could work.
The hour long artist playlist nonsense between 21:00-22:00 is just a huge mistake. Just give the extra hour to Riley & Coe for more live sets, and be done with the obvious advertising slot for the band/artist. Plus, I'm usually doing the washing-up then, and my hands are wet so I don't want to fiddle with Spotify on the phone.
The hour long artist playlist nonsense between 21:00-22:00 is just a huge mistake. Just give the extra hour to Riley & Coe for more live sets, and be done with the obvious advertising slot for the band/artist.
Agree completely with this. I think the artist is residence crap was on at midnight before which is where it belongs i.e. when it's time for bed. An extra hour of Riley & Coe would be a much better use of airtime.
I agree on the A.I.R. slot being a waste of air time in that slot. It's interesting for sure but it's a time that needs consistency and the A.I.R. bit is more of a filler/listen again type thing.
Bring back Keaveny to replace Captain Elastica.
I was interested to hear that Saturday nights have been moved around, with Don Letts taking the slot after Craig Charles - what used to be the Blessed Madonna. I always thought his show was a great mix of stuff, and really not given the space it deserved when it was late on a Sunday.
I was interested to hear that Saturday nights have been moved around, with Don Letts taking the slot
I think he's one of those that keep telling everyone a nickname that he wants to be called in the hope that everyone will eventually start calling him it.
Personally, I've never heard anyone refer to him as the Rebel Dread except himself 🤔😂
Don letts should be on that good person list. Underrated as a presenter/persona.
Plays some good tunes from all walks of life too
Have met him, and can confirm he's a lovely chap. He also played a bowel-wobbling dub set just before that was a thing of wonder.
6music still places too much emphasis on the whole wind-down, lifestyle thing.
Sundays are as placid as a monumental festival jakey/ druggie come-down, and as counter-cultural as a weekend in the Hebrides.
Between 12-2pm, 6music should be playing some music that would at least, appeal to the yoots in the skateparks of the UK…skatepunk, thrash, surf, extreme metal.
Gid Coe will have access to the late John Peels music. There will be loads of sampler cds from the now defunct ‘Terrorizer’ magazine. That’s a fascinating place to start.
On an ethnographic level, 6music owes us a deeper delve into the musical subcultures.
The time for hegemony is OVER. Surely that’s something we can all agree on😉😉😉
Bring back Keaveny to replace Captain Elastica.
Just had a look to see if the children are still whining about the same tired old subjects, like Lamaq always playing Elastica, and I’m not disappointed. As I proved conclusively a couple of months or so ago that that claim is bogus and clearly made by people who only listen once in a while, by checking Lamaq’s playlist over two months and saw he played Elastica exactly twice.
Just had a look to see if the children are still whining about the same tired old subjects, like Lamaq always playing Elastica, and I’m not disappointed. As I proved conclusively a couple of months or so ago that that claim is bogus and clearly made by people who only listen once in a while, by checking Lamaq’s playlist over two months and saw he played Elastica exactly twice
I'm not sure I'd admit to that
like Lamaq always playing Elastica
Hook, line & sinker. That's the gag, no?
Don letts should be on that good person list. Underrated as a presenter/persona.
Plays some good tunes from all walks of life too
Oh totally. He's great and plays some dope stuff, but yeah, never heard anyone call him that 😊
I used to really like Don Letts. Then I went to the cinema to see the remastered Ziggy and they showed the panel discussion beforehand, during which Letts and Suggs showed themselves to be utter cockwombles, albeit not as bad as Richard E Grant. I wasn't particularly surprised about Suggs, and his appalling music hall cheeky chappie Radio 4 slots have confirmed his status, but I was disappointed in Letts. I'm just trying to forget I saw it and enjoy the stuff he plays.
Yey! for Riley & Coe switching to 9-11. That's great news. I can't figure if it's because they've got bored of the guest artiste slot or bored of the moaning from listeners.
Either way I'm glad they've done something quickly. I can listen to more of the R&C show while washing up.
Opened the thread to see if it was an angry rant about how crap Bill Nighy was on Iggy Pop's show.
JeeezusH ,if he wants to 'do radio' they need to have him catapulted into some dull,old duffer's slot on R2.
Great news about Riley and Coe moving forward to 9!
Most of my 6music listening these days involves putting the radio on, turning it off, and putting the latest Riley and Coe on BBC Sounds on my tablet.
Great news about Riley & co. I'm impressed how theyve sorted the issue out so quickly. Well done 6
I've been listening less and less but then caught radcliffe & maconie wicker man special with Katie J Pearson playing live and it was great 👍
Great news about Riley & Coe - the only disappointment is that it should go from 9pm - midnight 😎
Opened the thread to see if it was an angry rant about how crap Bill Nighy was on Iggy Pop’s show.
Yeah, dreadful!
2 hours of footballers music 🤮
I turned Bill Nighy on at the weekend. He was playing some godawful country & western. Turned out it was Taylor Swift! Never knew she sounded like that??
So that was promptly switched off again...
rockbus
Damn… excitedly opened the thread hoping it was news that Chris, the * I mean the Hawk, Hawkins was moving on!
And for balance, I love Chris Hawkins.
Re The Bill Nye, Iggy stand-in; he does have a very different taste in music and not one I would have expected. Isn't 6 Music all about hearing stuff you wouldn't normally? I didn't "like" it but it wasn't objectionable on the whole. MAH played some Slipknot when I was WFH yesterday and that was *in g **** but I'm happy it exists. I can close my ears for 3 minutes or turn off the radio for 2 hrs.
You can't get rid of Chris Hawkins anyway as that would mean an end to Names in Songs which is the best thing ever.
Alright, which one of you was just on The Chain? E-biker, Surrey... got to be on here, Shirley
I gave this a listen:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001t0ln?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
Do any of them have a pulse?
It’s like we’re all waiting for Elvis 2.0 to add some metaphorical sp5nk and kick out some jams.
I can’t help but wonder if the suicide rate amongst British males can, to some extent, be blamed on the relentlessly insipid playlist, promulgated by 6music. (Probably more to do with underage drinking).
Like most things vanilla, it’s difficult to object to their music. But in the past two decades, I’ve barely heard anything on 6music thats inspired me to pick up any musical instrument.
Just thought I'd let you know that Lamaq is back on 6 right now and playing songs from 1994
It's an endless and relentless fight, the battle is never truly won....
But in the past two decades, I’ve barely heard anything on 6music thats inspired me to pick up any musical instrument.
That's because 6 only really like music made on a computer.
Something had to change, I wish they could have been braver in attempting to carve out a new section of the audience. It does all feel like a little bit of a compromise. I’m hopeful that the next round of changes help to make sense of everything.
Just thought I’d let you know that Lamaq is back on 6 right now and playing songs from 1994
Inviting listeners to text and email with their tales of mundane tasks they'll be doing this week. Back with all guns blazing 🙂
fingerbang
Just thought I’d let you know that Lamaq is back on 6 right now and playing songs from 1994
Yay! 😁
For balance. 😛
zippykona
But in the past two decades, I’ve barely heard anything on 6music that's inspired me to pick up any musical instrument.
That’s because 6 only really like music made on a computer.
I don't get you lot, music evolves, tastes change. Classics are classics and new stuff is introduced all the time. I like 6M because it doesn't feature formulaic cr@p or heavily vocodered sh** and mixes the best of new artists with a decent dose of old stuff and is an incredibly broad church.
What would you like to hear on 6M? Is anyone making it? Would it make a decent 24hr radio station?
Will lamaq be doing round table again? Huw Stevens was just to arse licky for my liking
I really, really, really miss Shaun K.
Decent music and intelligent humour.
And a nice interesting fella to boot.
Why did they replace him with the tedious Charles????
derek_starship
I really, really, really miss Shaun K.Decent music and intelligent humour.
And a nice interesting fella to boot.
Why did they replace him with the tedious Charles????
Didn't he leave of his own free will to explore other things?
I do miss SK but I like CC so it's evens for me.
My beef with 6, is playing music you can hear on 1 or 1 extra. They should be playing all kinds of stuff you don't hear anywhere else.
Thankfully Radio Caroline has lots of presenters supplying me with lots of new to me stuff.
This gentlemen on a Wednesday afternoon informs and entertains.
Really enjoyed Deb Grant in place of MAH today. Much better music choice for me.
Didn’t he leave of his own free will to explore other things?
No, he didn't. Far from it:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/shaun-keaveny-discusses-leaving-bbc-6-music-and-new-podcast/
He's far too critical of the current Govt on social media to be on 6Music, is the short version.
Can thoroughly recommend his Daily Grind: https://www.radiox.co.uk/podcasts/shaun-keaveny-daily-grind-how-to-listen/
More random musings on 6music:
I think that radio one has more oomph than six.
6music hasn’t inspired me to buy a band t-shirt, let alone pick up a musical instrument*
All the better stuff is shunted off to the early hours. Great if you’re living near the Pacific Ocean.
A lot of the problem with the BBC’s approach to music is that very few can actually play an instrument.
😂😂😂
That aside, you don’t need to play an instrument to appreciate music, but it helps.
Radcliffe, Lala, and cerys all dabbled to some extent. Now they seem to have lost the love for the throaty roar of a rickenbacker.
Yonks ago, the bbc made a multi-part tv documentary about the subdivisions within metal.
And then did nothing to promote the genre.
It would be nice for 6music to pick up that baton.
I doubt there’s anyone in that department with the cohonez.
(Craig Charles excepted, but he’d need to give the listeners several hours warning in advance)
6music seems like a closed shop. They’d never find someone within its ranks to front a metal show, 12-2pm on a Sunday for anyone at the skatepark.
They’d be better off poaching someone from radio 3. At least they’d better grasp the musical theory, underpinning metal.
What’s wrong with the other metal shows (Johnny walker and Daniel p carter)?
By genre, ‘rock’ music makes up 25% of music sales. Doesn’t the genre deserve more credibility.
Si, why are Johnny walkers classic rock show and Daniel p carters rock show shunted away into the periphery of the night?
We no longer treat people of colour with that level of opprobrium.
It’s no way to combat discrimination when the bbc sets that kind of example.
For me, I’d rather be listening to sepultura and megadeth on a Sunday afternoon.
11 pm and all the skate parks will be shut.
Why not broadcast the sylosis, behemoth, gorgoroth on a Sunday afternoon?
Who the hell is going to bust any moves at the skatepark to the flaming lips?
* I did purchase a digital download of ‘Dutch mustard’ after hearing them on lalas show.
Saying that, listening to lalas and mah’s show, you could be forgiven for thinking that you’ve reached some trauma helpline, so emasculated is the music.
Do the bands have to undergo some kind of testicular trauma to make it onto their playlist?
i'd love a metal show on 6 although I doubt I'd care for it on a Sunday afternoon. And I don't see what skateparks have to do with it? Round my way, skateparks are full of 45 year old blokes in goretex watching little Suzie zoom around on her microscooter. Neither of whom look like metal fans. And no-one is listening to the radio.
A drone/doom/sludge show at like 11pm on a weeknight would suit me down to the ground though. Neurosis, Electric Wizard, stuff like that. Lovely.
Bring back Bruce Dickinson's Rock Show? A dedicated slot in the early hours would probably be the best to hope for. Time slots seem to be immaterial to the station controllers - they're assuming everyone listens via Sounds whenever they want. Listening to the wireless is for grandads.
Next thing they'll be making the station digital only to save costs...
For me, I’d rather be listening to sepultura and megadeth on a Sunday afternoon.
Why do we have to wind-back to old rock - there's some great new rock bands around at the minute, which are getting zero airplay.
I certainly agree that it would be great to see them bringing in some specific shows that stretch beyond the 6 music playlist stuff (even though that's the music I probably prefer compared to metal - unless we can get a glam metal/hair band show!).
Without wishing to sound like the Radcliffe voiced ad.....The beauty of the BBC sounds app is that scheduling is now irrelevant - doesnt really matter if any specialist shows are scheduled for the earlier hours you can either stream and download whenever and where ever you want (be that the skate park or bed!).
I agree that it does seem to be under-represented as a genre but I also have no desire to hear it on a Sunday afternoon. Not sure when it should fit into the schedule but from what I know of it, it's not really my thing so better between midnight and 5.30 so it can be picked up on Sounds by those that are interested.
Surely there are metal stations that cover it if it does represent 25% of music sales? Is that not a better thing to listen to than 6M if that's your thing and the lack of it grates so much?
One idea for 6music, given how well they are represented with bona-fide music journalists would be a “reputations reassessed” (uncut magazine?) feature , where they’d devote 15 minutes critiquing some musicians output.
I don’t think that shunting the metal out to the wee small hours sends out a positive message.
We don’t need discrimination in this day.
Rock music makes up 25% of music sales.
How much is made up of the likes of carcass and cryptopsy? Who knows.
About the same percentage of music sales is made from pop music (mostly Beyoncé and Elton John).
Though, on my dab radio, 6music is described as ‘rock’ music.
That’s kind of wide of the mark.
It’s a trade’s description issue.
‘Pop’ music would be a more accurate station identifier.
They’re trying to oversell themselves.
Not to names-drop, but it reminds me of the spring of 1981.
A bloke from high school forwarded to us a cassette tape of his cousins band, “a punk/ metal hybrid”.
Sounded nothing remotely metal.
Turned out, his cousin played bass for these lads:
Had he not tried to oversell the band, they may have received a more appreciative listen.
But, I’m probably not alone in still clinging on to an unrealistic expectation of hearing behemoth or belphegor in the afternoon.
The music that Daniel p carter plays into the wee small hours would sound just as relevant on radio1’s daytime slots.
But playing it at 11pm, it’s doubtful whether anyone from his potential audience is awake at that time, and if so, their ears will need a rest.
Nothing against guy Garvey and his 12-2 slot (still a fan of his ‘cast of thousands’ album). Metal, in that time slot would be quite enervating on what is regarded as the start of the week.
Guys show would be better appreciated after two hours of sonic carnage.
Groundhog Day. It’s 4:56 on a Monday afternoon and that whiny bloke from the NME is coming in my ears. 🤷♂️
Metal, in that time slot would be quite enervating on what is regarded as the start of the week.
There’s always Planet Rock, for the, y’know, rock fans…
Groundhog Day. It’s 4:56 on a Monday afternoon and that whiny bloke from the NME is coming in my ears.
And some whiny bloke from that online biking forum is whining again…
Give it a rest, nobody cares.
For balance, I thought Lammo's show yesterday was pretty good.
Still not sure what the artist hour brings to the table, over than (even more than normal) blatant self-promotion.
Current 6M fave is Shadow of a Doubt by Sprints. What a tune.