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Is it disappearing further up it's own backside, or morphing into Radio 1 for hipsters?

I've only really started listening over the past year and it's my default station on DAB in the car - however....

Some of the pretentious guff they spout (especially on the adverts for shows) is starting to really irritate me. I get the feeling, the same idiot writes all the promo tag lines right across Beeb 1, 2 & 6.

The shows are generally pretty good, but the fillers - aaaarrgggh!


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 1:19 pm
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Are we talking about Mary Ann Hobbs? Every time the ad for that drippy mare comes on I want to stab myself in the ears, god knows how I'd feel if I actually listened to the program.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 1:27 pm
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She's one of the main culprits, yeah!

And Cerys.

There's an ad on at the moment with some tool claiming to have sussed out how to turn the movement of planets into music. I very much doubt you have mate - I think NASA might be quite interested in your talents. I'd hazard a guess that you've put some algorithm into a synthesiser


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 1:44 pm
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They play good music but I can't stand the bits inbetween. Why (considering the unique way it's funded) they can't just have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 2:00 pm
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[i]have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know.[/i]

I'd listen to that! Occasionally


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 2:09 pm
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Why (considering the unique way it's funded) they can't just have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know.

You may as well just listen to Spotify then.

6 Music can be annoying (and they do play some rubbish), but it's a lot better than most, and a million times better than commercial radio.

I like the chatty bits, especially on Radcliffe and Maconie.

I do like Radio 1 at a weekend though - it feels like a different station to their weekday output.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 2:10 pm
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It's like Radio 4 with good music, so it's a full win-win for me.

Although Mary-Anne Hobbs, who doubtlessly really knows her stuff, does have an annoyingly drippy presenting style.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 2:51 pm
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Does Radcliffe still call her Mary Anne Hobgoblin?


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 2:59 pm
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I like the chatty bits, especially on Radcliffe and Maconie

I use listen again to skip most of the playlist tracks, along with the music news. Also for the Huey show; saves an hour or so.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:01 pm
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I can't bear the Shaun Keavney ads that are all over the place at the moment. Radcliffe & Maconie make me reach for the off button as they drivel on through the afternoon. But I could listen to Mary-Anne all day long.

All different eh!

I just use the iplayer radio app to pick and choose the shows I love, Guy, Giles, Ravenscroft, Lauren, Tom R.... I regularly smile to myself and feel glad we have 6music, seems a shame to pick holes in it.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:03 pm
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I love 6 Music! Not sure what you mean about the guffy bits. Apart from Mary Ann Hobbs of course, she is satan's toe jam


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:04 pm
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Blimey, just Googled MAH... she's about 20yrs older than I imagined based upon her voice!


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:06 pm
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I could listen to Cerys talking and just blank out the music bits 😳


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:10 pm
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I'm a big fan of Shaun Keaveny and of Mark Radcliffe. Lamacq makes me switch over to 1 or 2 though.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:12 pm
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I only really listen to the breakfast show, fits with my random and slightly immature sense of humour.

Music was fantastic though this morning, might listen to the Lurpak/Keavney DJ battle tonight too.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:13 pm
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The thing is, it's got to appeal to a lot of different people so it will have things which you do not like. The fact that you can happily listen for a year and you generally think it's good shows that it's doing something right.

I really like Mary Anne Hobbs and Cerys show. Cannot stand Javis Cockers show because I find it so pretentious, but then I'm sure plenty others do love it.

I also find the playlists a bit narrow and samey and I find it doesn't play that broad a selection of music, but then my partner thinks they play a very board selection of music so that proves my point that everyone has a different taste and it's difficult to appeal to everyone all the time.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:18 pm
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Isn't this the new "What tyres for...." thread?

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Posted : 10/11/2017 3:22 pm
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Why (considering the unique way it's funded) they can't just have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know

There you go:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/tracks/find/6music
https://open.spotify.com/user/bbc_playlister/playlist/2HWJmnQ2FcXP1nItQULVKa
https://open.spotify.com/user/bbc_playlister/playlist/6ToRtiBeKUf0py8gZO6gQj


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:48 pm
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I like about 70-80% of it's output but will turn off:

Giles Petersen, Jarvis Cocker, Liz Kershaw.

Take or leave:
Steve LeMaq (too many Listeners call ins)
MAH

We do have a 3 song rule as Mrs SBH wont tolerate stuff thats strays too far from the mainstream - 3 shit songs in a row and it get turned off/over to R2...Mark Riley is the main culprit here.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 3:58 pm
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They play good music but I can't stand the bits inbetween. Why (considering the unique way it's funded) they can't just have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know.
If I had a time machine I would suggest my local commercial station in the 90's. The tagline was 'no rap, less chat'!


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:03 pm
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Well i like Cerys show lots of wee gems from time to time she plays makes me want to listen to more of certain music
Mary Anne love listening to her dulcet tones but the music is not for me, i'm a floater between 6 radio 2 and 5 live just dont like Chris Evans or Fern whatshername or that big girl who sometimes stands in for jeremy vine Vannessa she is the worst on the radio


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:05 pm
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I really like Radcliffe and Maconie, although SM can be a bit annoying talking over the top of MR all the time. Listen to Giles Petersen sometimes, it makes me smile how he bangs on about how some obscure jazz musician who probably sells 3 records a year is the most important human being in the universe. I like Cerys, too. Marc Riley is OK in small doses, a lot of the stuff he plays grates on my 60-odd year old nerves. Not keen on any of the others I've heard though, a bit too 'DJ' for me.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:07 pm
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No love for Craig Charles here?


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:13 pm
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Lazy Sunday brunch with Cerys in the background is a wonderful thing
Hobbs - no, just no. She's in for Keaveney next week so watch out for the complaining threads


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:15 pm
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What else would I listen to?

Although...The Archers...it's really addictive! (Think GF's mum is to blame)


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:20 pm
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No love for Craig Charles here?

Bin dun. And quite recently too...

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/the-craig-charles-funk-and-soul-show ]http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/the-craig-charles-funk-and-soul-show[/url]


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 4:24 pm
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Giles Petersen, Jarvis Cocker, Liz Kershaw.

Take or leave:
Steve LeMaq (too many Listeners call ins)
MAH

I think Jarvis makes great radio. Gilles depends on my mood (and his) - sometimes I love it, sometimes it gets too smooth and I need something else. Liz is hilarious (HIYA!) but I don't turn her off.

Steve Lamacq gets me switching to spotify regularly - his 'stuck in 1996' music taste, championing of yet another landfill indie band, "world cups" and interest in kicky-ball do it for me.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 5:26 pm
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Cerys is good - love the music and most of the bits in between are pretty good.
Gid Coe is IMO the best on there.
Hobbs - like the music but her voice....less so.
Tom Robinson - good all round.
Craig Charles - music is, mostly, great; he, however, is not.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 5:28 pm
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I record the evening shows and playback when the daytime DJ witter-****ery has reached critical mass.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 5:36 pm
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They play good music but I can't stand the bits inbetween. Why (considering the unique way it's funded) they can't just have a station that plays music without any of the other shite I don't know.

Music radio 'talky bits' date back to the 'Needle Time' agreement. Early in the history of radio most the music you heard was by live bands - playing recorded music was considered a threat to musicians incomes so the Needle Time Agreement meant there could only be a certain percentage of recorded music played every hour.

To begin with the agreement only allowed a station 30 hours recorded music a week. When audiences became less interested in in-house big bands and more interested in 'recording artists' those agreements were still in place and stayed in place for a surprisingly long time (until the late 80s I think) meaning music radio stations had to find something to fill the time in each hour they we're allowed to play recorded music. Thats what gives us the conventions of quizzes, phone ins, and all sorts of audience interaction.

All those 'bits' have become the conventions of the medium - its perfectly possible to have radio without them - I've not flicked through the DAB dials for a while but there certainly used to be a few presenter-less uninrerupted music stations. Even though they're exactly what you'd think the listener wants but even if you like the music they're just dull. One of the things all those presenter 'bits' do is meter out your day. Every show has a 'broadcast clock' with the show being played out in roughly the same themes, portions and rhythms every day.

Compared to listening to my iPhone or spotify, having the radio on means the days full of cues - I know if i'm driving to work earlier than normal, I know when I should stop for a bit of lunch, I know I should be packing up and heading home soon, I know when I'm working late, I know when I'm working very late and should try and hammer a bit more quietly. I know when its the weekend (and I'm still working).

They seem to be an annoyance, but the reality is you miss them when they're not there.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 6:34 pm
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oops, forgot Craig Charles. Like him too.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:00 pm
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Lamaq is 20 years past his best, the format is dire, needs replaced with Ravenscroft.

Kershaw needs replaced with Kate Tempest.

Rad Mac yeah, yeah, yeah need replacing with anyone but those two cunexttuesdays.

I did like Huey Morgan but realise he's a **** now as well, Katie Puckrick would be my choice on a Saturday.

Love Gideon Coe, mabe he could afternoons, thatd be grand.

Cerys it seems is still breaking those new teeth in and MHB 'anyway' breathy a-hole that she is still making a living from them on the weekend mornings, I tell thee Id rather have Jo Whiley, looks good for 61 right enough.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:12 pm
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I like listening to Mary Anne and Cerys on a Sunday morning. Calm, quietly spoken, knowledgeable, and a wide range of music.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:16 pm
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I could listen to Cerys talking and just blank out the music bits

Ditto.

(I'm actually quite relieved to hear I'm not the only one.)


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:26 pm
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Huey Morgan, Iggy Pop.

No complaints


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:28 pm
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Some of it is shit but I'm old enough to remember there being no good music on the radio ANYWHERE.
When radio 1 added teen spirit to the play list it was like a revolution had taken place.
I love the record by Shame they played recently. Absolute corker.
I can't imagine I would have heard that elsewhere.
When a shit record (not a fan of most rap) comes on, Planet Rock is next in my presets and they are generally playing an advert.
BBC I thank you very much.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:32 pm
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Music radio 'talky bits' date back to the 'Needle Time' agreement. Early in the history of radio most the music you heard was by live bands - playing recorded music was considered a threat to musicians incomes so the Needle Time Agreement meant there could only be a certain percentage of recorded music played every hour.

To begin with the agreement only allowed a station 30 hours recorded music a week. When audiences became less interested in in-house big bands and more interested in 'recording artists' those agreements were still in place and stayed in place for a surprisingly long time (until the late 80s I think) meaning music radio stations had to find something to fill the time in each hour they we're allowed to play recorded music. Thats what gives us the conventions of quizzes, phone ins, and all sorts of audience interaction.

All those 'bits' have become the conventions of the medium - its perfectly possible to have radio without them - I've not flicked through the DAB dials for a while but there certainly used to be a few presenter-less uninrerupted music stations. Even though they're exactly what you'd think the listener wants but even if you like the music they're just dull. One of the things all those presenter 'bits' do is meter out your day. Every show has a 'broadcast clock' with the show being played out in roughly the same themes, portions and rhythms every day.

Compared to listening to my iPhone or spotify, having the radio on means the days full of cues - I know if i'm driving to work earlier than normal, I know when I should stop for a bit of lunch, I know I should be packing up and heading home soon, I know when I'm working late, I know when I'm working very late and should try and hammer a bit more quietly. I know when its the weekend (and I'm still working).

Cool background info, but...

They seem to be an annoyance, but the reality is you miss them when they're not there.
...I only listen 30mins in the morning on way to work and 40mins on the way home so I am not convinced.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 7:37 pm
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I'll be the first to mention Chris Hawkins then, at 0500 till 0700, listen to him on the drive in for an hour and I think it's the best show on the radio.
Then again he's up against Vanessa feltz in radio 2.


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 9:09 pm
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Katie Puckrik is a [b]very[/b] poor Huey Morgan substitute.
Love not having to be up at 3 in the morning to listen to GP.
Saturdays at home see 6music on for all waking hours, unless Puckrik is on.


 
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I'll be the first to mention Chris Hawkins then, at 0500 till 0700, listen to him on the drive in for an hour and I think it's the best show on the radio.
Then again he's up against Vanessa feltz in radio 2.

He was good until I realised how many times he says “this morning” during his show.


 
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I think Lauren’s show is one of the best on the radio.
Tom Ravenscroft is also very good


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 10:10 pm
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Between music from the way back when and (c)rap I'm changing channels more often these days, which is a real shame as some lesser heard tunes only ever get aired on there.
+1 for Chris Hawkin's, and Keaveney's faux-depressed style suits me whilst I wake up.


 
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@maccruiskeen - good and timely reminder; thanks for that.
Couple of weeks ago Cerys interviewed Joe Boyd - you know....producer, promoter - and he talked about his interest in....'ethnic' music; in the studio there was an Albanian musician, part of a group being produced and promoted by Boyd.
Thanks to that interview which included some music by Saz'iso - said muso is part of the group - I saw them tonight in Lincoln; south Albanian folk/gypsy music. Really excellent.
They were on Later with Jools but I missed that.
6music - and Jools - provide a platform for new/different music and if it wasn't for hearing Saz'iso I would never have gone to see them.
That, to me, is an added bonus of the Beeb's attitude to music - they could do more and yes, I know, 6music was under threat; a good breadth of music with some very knowledgeable and expert presenters - if blues is your thing, Paul Jones is your man.


 
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They play too much city ghetto white kid rap shite for me. And Mary Ann Hobbs is the most annoying person on the radio for me. I consider her worse than Chris Moyles and the like.

My radio is mostly tuned in to absolute 90's 🙂


 
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The mere fact that radio 6 is so devicive in the the opinions it creates about the music it plays and the dj's it has is it's whole point! It's not meant to be radio 1 or 2 and coalesce opinion. Me - I love craig Charles, Radcliffe & Marconi, keaveny, Huey, iggy (musically not vocally)I can tolerate the Hobbs, but Peterson can generally do one and as much as I could listen to Cerys read the phone books to me, her particular brand of home knitted Peruvian nose flute falafels does not appeal - but that's the point, lots of diversity against the homogeneous output of the other stations. Be thankful we have the choice


 
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Katie Puckrik is a very poor Huey Morgan substitute.

Oh, and this. She's the only person I have to turn into ff. her bubblegum, singy songy inanity irritates me beyond belief


 
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It's so much better when they ignore the playlist, eg evenings or weekends.

Needs a bit of a weekday daytime shake up. Apart from that? No keep doing what you are doing.

What is the group name for a collection of over weight middle aged men wearing band t shirts at a gig? Answer: a lemacq

Mmmyyyy naaammme iiiiisss iiiiggyy pop

He's the next Lemmy


 
Posted : 10/11/2017 11:14 pm
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They play good music but I can't stand the bits inbetween.

Yeah, largely agree - most presenters I don't mind, some I like (like Radcliffe - Macconie less so...), some need to STFU. Keavsney is my chief annoyance, neither interesting nor funny.


 
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BBC6 isn't perfect, but then I think that is why it's so good.

I tend not to listen much on a Saturday until it's time for Craig Charles, but other than that I dip in and out for the rest of the week. One of it's strengths is that you will always hear something new at some point, or an old track that you haven't heard for years (Carter USM, Sherriff Fatman yesterday!).
When I'm at work it's always a fight to gain control of the radio stations and when I hear some of the right old pony that other people put on I thank whatever force is about that BBC6 exists, I had to listen to a couple of hours of Magic and Heart the other day and I nearly went into a coma as they repeat the same tracks constantly.

It annoys me sometimes when the do stuff like their Pixies fest and the Glastonbury excitement overload, but I'd miss it if it wasn't there, even Keaveny.


 
Posted : 11/11/2017 8:13 am
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tis good that we're all listening to it and all like the variety of music and presenters, as mentioned above, itd be a shame if we all liked the same thing.

me personally, i prefer the music on lemaqs show (bit more punk + indie), radcliffe and maconie [i]including the chat[/i], love listening to their humourous yipyap, gideon coe and marc riley.

dont like weekends so much, cerys, gilles et al. the bit on lemaqs show where he gets an 'expert' in to profile a listener has me wanting to shout at the radio, "mate, its a total guess so **** off".

its the only station i listen to tho, love the diversity of it all. best thing is you never get any chart sh1t on there.


 
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DAB in the car

The only dab I had in my car was when we were 18 and someone had a bag of billy.


 
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Tom Ravenscroft is also very good

He was funny on Mastermind, knowing nothing about Warp. I think that was around the time Autechre sent him [i]feed1[/i] to play for the first time ever.


 
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Huey kicking ass this morning !


 
Posted : 11/11/2017 10:36 am
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Have any of you lot whining about 6Music [i]ever[/i] listened to Radio 1 for more than three minutes? I’m forced to listen to it for hours at a time, my team leader has it on all day, except for Moyles on Radio X in the morning, and that show consists of several people talking incessantly about themselves with the occasional record thrown in.
6 is possibly the best radio station on the planet, by comparison to pretty much anything else I’ve listened to over the years.
Imagine 6Music playing the entire new Ed Sheeran album in one go, which Radio 1 did, then raving breathlessly for hours after!
Now stop bitching about the wonder which is 6.


 
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