[Closed] 5 weeks ago I was 14.5st...

Damn impressive. How tall are you?

6'1"

nice one

6 months ago I was 15st10, now I am 13st2, moving more, eating less, quite pleased I lost it over winter too

Superb. Well done George.

well done indeed 😀

Mice one lads, still at 15.4st after being 19.2 in Deb 11.

Hard to pass into the 14st imo

So well done

aye you were getting a right fatty - thats why i took my tt bike back fae you - didnt want it breaking under the strain 😉

dont understand why you didnt adopt a middle aged IT approach to loosing weight - which ever fad diets going this month minimising sweat expenditure - surely that would have been less effort ..... albe it with less impressive results 😉

All I did was cut down on the food and did more exercise.

Damn you and your witch-doctor fad diet!!! 😡

LsD I think ill call it the "M.A.M.I.L." diet .... and charge 10 pounds for the information pack.

Seems to be all fat that I've lost too. Cant be bad.

My diet during that time contained a lot of pasta, chicken pakora and kebabs.

[i]All I did was cut down on the food and did more exercise.[/i]

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[i][b]Seems[/b] to be all fat that I've lost too. Cant be bad.[/i]

And you know this, how ?

Eh - because my legs are the same size and my big fat belly has disappeared.

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[i]Eh - because my legs are the same size and my big fat belly has disappeared.[/i]
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Oh, and there was the universe, thinking you had scientific proof that you have lost fat [b]only[/b].

*MRI scan*

So your claim:
[i]Seems to be all fat[/i]
Is just conjecture.

Class !

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dont mind if i do - are they caramel ?

george was growing a wok under his jumper - it is now gone. either that wok was muscle or hes lost a shit load of fat through exercise.

So your claim:
Seems to be all fat
Is just conjecture.

The presence of the word "seems" would kind of imply that - hence it's presence.

[i]george was growing a wok under his jumper - it is now gone. either that wok was muscle or hes lost a shit load of fat through exercise.[/i]

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[i]The presence of the word "seems" would kind of imply that - hence it's presence.[/i]

Soooo. In the end, YOU'RE JUST GUESSING.....

Well, thanks for that.
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You're welcome.

It seems like the 'it's more complicated than just eating less and doing more' chaps really don't like it up 'em.

Nice effort chap, keep it up..

solo - biscuits ..... caramel or not ?

[i]You're welcome.[/i]

No problem.
[i]My diet during that time contained a lot of pasta, [b]chicken[/b] pakora and kebabs.[/i]

Here, have some more chicken. For the win.
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[i]It seems like the 'it's more complicated than just eating less and doing more' chaps really don't like it up 'em.

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Oh, contraire. Posts such as this prove beyond doubt that ignorance is indeed, [i]Bliss[/i].
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Solo, do you have to practise being such an [inset derogatory term of choice] or does it come naturally to you?
Bloke has done well, yet you feel the need to criticise. Pillock.

i should point out that more exercise came in the form of 300 and 200k audaxes amongst other things .....

not 20km trailcentre pootles rounded off with a mountain of cake to reward for the effort

he was tubby fit - not just tubby

...and yet, by using exactly the same method, I am now 5 kilos lighter than I was in January.

Eating less, moving more.

I am enjoying your outrage though; do carry on.

not 20km trailcentre pootles rounded off with a mountain of cake to reward for the effort

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trail_rat - there'll be a 400km audax to add to that this weekend too hopefully.

Peter. Glupton has deliberately posted how moving more and eating less is all it takes.
*bored on a Sunday night*

But we can't ascertain whether Glupton has lost fat [b]only[/b]
*freak of nature*

But what I like most about the morons on STW is how they claim to know better than doctors and professors who have developed a career in the field of human nutrition. Based purely on their anecdotal experience.
People rock up here and tell the inmates thats its as simple as [i]move more, eat less[/i]
They post this in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence that this is specifically not the case.

The best part is, I get to laugh my ass off at this lot, for free.
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"STW is how they claim to know better than doctors and professors who have developed a career in the field of human nutrition."

does it pay well solo or is it a good job we dont charge for you to get your kicks.....

what ever floats your boat i guess....

[i]I am enjoying your outrage though; do carry on.

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I'm all eyes. Please post, specifically. How your caloric sources and total consumption was processed by your body, including all the processess your body employs to process the food you eat. To yeild the results you have enjoyed. Be as techincal as you want, post links to all the studies, white papers, meta analysis and epidemiological studies you have which prove beyond doubt that all other work and studies are worthless and that numerous sceintific studies prove, time and again, than all it takes is eating less and moving more.

*holds in his hands a book listing 47 pages of white paper studies which prove its not just eating less, moving more*

OP, well done. We all need to shout something out now and again, and you've achieved something, so enjoy your shout & keep it up.

excellent - you think these white paper studies can make my car work 110% efficient?

meanwhile in december last year i lost 14lbs eating mars bars , bread , cheese , drinking lots of water , coke and OJ coupled with taking multi vits + iron.

dont think that diet will take off though.

[i]what ever floats your boat i guess....

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So you haven't read much on the subject then ?.......
You're just going by what works for you.

Well, thats ok. Likewise for the OP. But to claim you know it all, to claim all it takes is to move more and eat less, cos you're slim and because you think its because you move on more cals than you eat. Is a bit anecdotal, [b]only[/b].

I'm not saying that all other studies are worthless. What I'm saying is that 5 weeks ago I was 14.5st and today I'm 12st 4lbs and that the method I used to achieve this was to eat less and move more. It really is simple stuff.

How heavy are you Solo?

And Solo - what are your qualifications that allow you to fully understand all of those reams of research?

solo - you presume i was always a slim racing whippet - you are wrong.

i once tipped the scales at 15 stone.

then i discovered exercise and eating less.

and it worked then - and its working now - im working down from 13st 6 back to racing weight

Well done OP.

Solo I think you make find the following true.

Eat more + move less = weight gain

Eat less + move more = weight loss ( or stability)

It very much depends where you are at with your weight.

The guys done well but you have to come in being a fool. Probably gained muscle rather than lost due to exercise and maintaining leg size which may have ad a little fat. But hey wouldn't be fun for you to congratulate someone on an achievement.

But what I like most about the morons on STW is how they claim to know better than doctors and professors who have developed a career in the field of human nutrition. Based purely on their anecdotal experience.

Count yourself one of those morons? The guy just dropped 2 stone and however he did it great work.

 

The reason I got fat in the first place was down to the appetite stimulating effect of some long term medication that I need to take. Ignoring food cravings and feeling hungry are things that you get used to pretty quickly it just takes discipline.

Almost 6lbs per week over 5 weeks. That's a calorie deficit of over 20,000 per week...

hey Solo, if there's a gap in the literature, why don't you get a study done? After all, quite a few scientific* studies were inspired by anecdotal evidence.

*nutritionists are not scientists by the way, but it's nice for them to feel special.

Solo, have you got beef with the OP?

Sure, physical mechanics involve more than do more & eat less cake, but it's an excellent basis from which to start.

What ultimately works is being 'in tune' with your own body & metabolism, which people will become upon sustained dietary control & exercise - papers/studies/diets are useless once that point is reached.

Solo, you've come across as a right bell end on this I'm afraid.

[i]solo - you presume [/i] [b]Err, no I do not[/b] [i] I was always a slim racing whippet - you are wrong.
i once tipped the scales at 15 stone.
then i discovered exercise and eating less.
and it worked [/i][b]For me[/b] Although I can't explain how exactly my body has achieved this weight reduction. I can't tell you how healthy I am on the inside nor whether I can continue to maintain my lower body fat percentage, once I stop [i]racing[/i].

T, FTFY.
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[i]5 weeks ago I was 14.5st and today I'm 12st 4lbs and that the method I used to achieve this was to eat less and move more. It really is simple stuff.[/i]
Let me take this chance to congratulate you. Sincerely, thats good work, well done !
However, I know you'll forgive me for pointing out that for someone who appears to know little about the details, claiming that its nothing more than moving more and eating less. Might attract some [i]comment[/i] !

[i]How heavy are you Solo?[/i]
I'm fine thanks.
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[i]And Solo - what are your qualifications that allow you to fully understand all of those reams of research?[/i]
I get by 😉 How about you ? how are you getting along, buying and reading all the text that you have, recently.
*reading list*

Since i dont have access to the uni libraries or papers back catalogue ill leave you with this before i head to bed to get up and move more in the morning - pre breakfast

http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/01/13/complex-diets-prone-to-failure/10727.html

Boardinbob - cycling burns around 1000kcal/hr. Cycle for 15 hours and there you have 15000kcal in one day. Running for an hour burns a similar amount of kcal per hours, run an hour every night and you have 7000kcal per week. Martial arts - similar hourly kcal burn - three hours of that - 3000kcal - that's 25000kcal per week of exercise.

Add in an active job, walking too and from that job and the stuff that your body needs just to survive then it's not all that difficult to see how a kcal deficit of 20000/wk can be achieved. This weekend I will be riding for around 20-22 hours in saturday...

[i]The reason I got fat in the first place was down to the appetite stimulating effect of some long term medication that I need to take[/i]

LMFAO !, like that should have been posted at the start ?

Also who races ? Gave up racing as a hobby many years ago, you mean surely , if i can maintain it when im confined to my bed unable to move ?

[i]move more in the morning - pre breakfast

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Aye, just the way I like it.

glupton: face the facts man. Solo can scientifically prove, with research papers and everything, that you haven't actually lost any weight and your belly disappearing is pure coincidence.

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(well done lad - good effort!)

So although losing weight is the goal that has been achieved, we need to [i]understand[/i] it to make it acceptable?

...and we're morons?

Oh FFS this is stupid now. Well done OP, don't bite. Solo, you're being an arse!

Night!

don't bite

Oooh, see what I did there?!

[i]you mean surely , if i can maintain it when im confined to my bed unable to move ?[/i]

No mate, I mean when you post about how fat you use to be, but forget to tell folk you were on a drug/medication which induces weight gain........
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Ah ok , when i get some of those il be sure to post.

Solo - what qualifications do you have?

I have relevant qualifications - people know what qualifications I have on here. Part of my job is health promotion - giving people advice on how to lose weight and maintain a health lifestyle.

I'm also still on that medication which has an appetite stimulating effect. Never missed a day. 🙄

most weight loss studies use obese diabetic post menopausal KFC bucket hosing giffers as a study group, as they're the ones who get ill.

moderately fit healthy blokes who've been on the pies a bit so need to drop a few kg's are a sadly neglected group.

Well done OP

Solo earlier ....

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Thanks for all the support from everyone who has been positive. I'm going to try and lose another stone and then maintain my weight at that. My knees are feeling a lot better for it and I think that keeping the weight off will reduce the OA risk.

[i]I'm also still on that medication which has an appetite stimulating effect. Never missed a day[/i]

Well, I'm sorry you aren't well and that you need meds. However, don't you think you should have divulged this very important fact ?

As you're [i]qualified[/i] in the dogma which prevails at the moment. Have you considered widening your research beyond that which has been prescribed to you by your mentors ?

Yeah, its late, I better go now.

For the record, congrats on the the weight loss. If you think its just as simple as move more eat less, then imo, you're wrong. Also, for whatever you need the meds for, again, bum deal 🙁 and I can only tell you that I hope you get better, if thats possible.

Yeah, [s]its late[/s] everyone seems to have a very low opinion of my contributions, I better go now

Night..

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[i]glupton1976 - Member

... just weighed myself tonight. I'm now 12st 4.

All I did was cut down on the food and did more exercise.

Feel a hell of a lot better for it too.[/i]

No mention of weight inducing meds.....
Tut, tut.

Aye his anti psychotics are playing havok with his insides.

..you are ignoring my weight loss, probably because it doesn't fit your ideal.

No problem, it's still gone.

Night night.

What difference would mentioning appetite stimulating meds have made given that I was still taking them throughout? Note I use the term appetite stimulating rather than weight inducing. Only thing that induced weight is more food/less exercise.

[i]Aye his anti psychotics are playing havok with his insides.

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Actually, its been a bit of a troll thread.

OP posts how losing weight it nothing more than moving more and eating less, knowing this Forums persuation to argue this point. [b]But [i]forgets[/b] [/i] to mention the important fact that the OP is on weight gain inducing medictation.

Oh dear !

@glupton congrats from me and thanks for sharing the story ....

solo - you've missed your meds by the sound of things.

Glupton.

You posted [i]facts[/i] on your weight loss without revealing the entire picture. That you take meds which stimulate your appetite.

Again, if you're happy, I am too, but please do not lecture me on how its just a case of move more and eat less.

It really is your bedtime.

Don't tell me - it's your thyroid isn't it solo?

OK then Solo - you provide me with the evidence that it wasn't the cycling thousands and running hundreds of miles whilst limiting my food intake that made me lose weight.

if you was on meds, you did probably piss out half the weight loss, mind you OP.

[i]solo - you've missed your meds by the sound of things. [/i]

Oh, the ironing. [i]Sound[/i]... Erm, you can hear me ?
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So who needs the meds ?

The meds in question gave me carb cravings. Not a lot of fluid retention going on.

[i]OK then Solo - you provide me with the evidence that it wasn't the cycling thousands and running hundreds of miles whilst limiting my food intake that made me lose weight. [/i]

Hah !, nice try. You prove to me it was only fat you lost !

I feel a bit sorry for him. Someone posts a nice positive, non preachy post about getting a bit of control and feeling healthy (and lighter) for it and he feels the need to be an asshat. Not only that he feels compelled to find himself an "amusing" image to illustrate his point. I wouldn't want to live in his world - it must be a bit sad. I'm guessing a bit lonely.

Well done you op.

[i]The meds in question gave me carb cravings. Not a lot of fluid retention going on.[/i]

[b]LMFAO[/b] and you claim to be qualified ?

Ok then. So how much water to store 1g of Carb in the body ?

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Well that was a fun read! The op shares his good news that he is off the tubby list by fair means and just gets a load of grief from Solo for not posting his full medical history and backing up his methodology with a ****in Harvard system based reference list.

Mental. Just mental.