[Closed] £300K a week for wendy ball !!!!!! you must be joking

Cos people pay to watch it, simples. (not me though, bloody hate the game)

I imagine tax forms a fair portion of that salary, which helps pay for the NHS?

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Rooneys salary can be paid from money the club make, he's not paid by the government who fund the hospital so I fail to see your comparison or issue?

I agree with the sentiment, but Rooney,s not paid with taxpayers money, we need sky to show live NHS...

International market, can't blame the country. This planet is going to the dogs

But he DOES love jesus, apparently. Surely mitigating?

ZOMG!!!!!!!!!

It would take me over 20yrs work at my current wage to reach his weekly pay, might go and kick a ball round the garden and see if i get talent spotted….riches and wealth, here i come!

Rooneys salary can be paid from money the club make, he's not paid by the government who fund the hospital so I fail to see your comparison or issue?

Sorry should have been more clearer with my point, I was just watching the news at lunchtime, when the two stories followed each other.

One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially, followed by that £300K/Week Rooney story.

That's all

Market forces in play, he brings in punters.

Simples.

bet you'd be surprised how little of that 300k he gives in tax.

I don't particularly like football - but the phrase "wendy ball" makes my tummy hurt

Why get upset by it, Will he not be paying about £8 million in tax? Or does anybody know the figure.

Enough to pay for lots of nurses wages. I'm sure movie stars and others get paid more than he does.

One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially,

"The NHS" isn't a homogenous thing. It's a group of organisations. Some of them get given money by govt, others get paid by those ones to fix people.
Hospitals are commisioned to do work by CCGs (groups of GPs).

The GPs might have all the money but if they're paying £xx per attendance and people don't want to go to Mid Staffs (would you?!) then they're going to struggle to pay their bills with lower activity.

Then there's the staff who don't want to work there ("[i]you know that hospital that everyone thinks is awful, I used to work there, can I have a job at your 'good' hospital please?[/i]") 😉 So they have to pay higher rates to get agency staff in to cover. So their costs go up further.

You could give the GPs an extra £Rooney every month and it wouldn't make any difference to Mid Staffs.

Possibly. But maybe not.

It's the free market that we all love when it suits us to and revile when we don't.

Interesting, replace Rooney by a banker and I bet this thread would have gone differently.

Mental stratergy. They should be concentrating on youth or new blood.

No amount of money would attract me to the life of a football star.

One that the NHS in Staffordshire is on it's arse financially, followed by that £300K/Week Rooney story.

It simply shows the value of one over another. The NHS being of massive value to the general public is going to the dogs due to politicians placing cost over value, along with a large dose of ideology, while whoever is paying spud head boy to kick a ball about is prepared to pay that cost because of the value it brings to the club in terms of punters, TV money advertising and merchandising.

Its what's completely wrong, not only with this country, but the whole planet.

Its what's completely wrong, not only with this country, but the whole planet.

which helps pay for the NHS?

Or for a 17min delay in an Ambulance arriving.

Why are footballer salaries always quoted weekly not annually like you would quote most other professions? And is that the salary in the football season or 52 weeks a year? And does the salary drop if they are injured or dropped to the bench?

The NHS is ****ed no matter how much money you pump into it.

I'm sure I heard somewhere that footballers don't pay tax on the wage they get paid each week.. The club cover it separately or something, which if true means he gets every penny of the 300G!!
I reckon the whole thing will crash and burn in years to come. Too many kids not playing footy these days, sitting in on the play station etc plus dodgy tv streaming and what not so in years to come the audience may dwindle?? Plus it's all got ridiculous and out of hand so we,ll see how much longer it lasts. I wonder if tomorrow's footballers will be as interested if gravy train is gone. Messers Rooney and co will be the ones who hit the jackpot.
God I remember about 10 years ago Peter Shillton came to do our 8 aside league awards!! He was skint apparently but a legend in his day, quite a few others like him from that era eking out the few quid they have left I reckon.

Why get upset by it,

Its a lot of money that of say spent on the NHS or starving people could do more good.

Will he not be paying about £8 million in tax? Or does anybody know the figure.

Enough to pay for lots of nurses wages.

I'm sure movie stars and others get paid more than he does.

We all understand market forces and most will find this obscene

Interesting, replace Rooney by a banker and I bet this thread would have gone differently.

Replace the banker with a Gregg's sausage roll, and it would have been carnage.

Poor lad might take home as little as £160,000/week if he pays all his tax 🙁

I reckon the whole thing will crash and burn in years to come. Too many kids not playing footy these days, sitting in on the play station etc plus dodgy tv streaming and what not so in years to come the audience may dwindle??

Actually sport is one of the last big areas of interest for advertisers, as it has a high immediate value when shown live, but this value decays quickly afterwards, making e.g. illegal copies etc. much lower worth than say, pirate movies accessed via torrent downloads. Super Bowl half time anyone?

It's not right or wrong, it just is, complaining about it is pointless. Be glad that it's a British club that has players that have this kind of draw, so at least some cash ends up in NHS coffers via our hyper efficient tax system.

I have no interest in football whatsoever. And I know little about the intricacies of professional life as a footballer. But I take it this is his contract with Manchester United - his flat wage?

In which case he will also receive phenomenal amounts of money from sponsorship deals, additional to this?

People making obscene amounts of money doesn't bother me too much generally. And I think in sport, it does usually come from various sources of sponsorship. But to pay a wage of 1.2 million each month ... it's all relative I suppose, but surely you reach a point where it becomes meaningless? You're making more money than you can possibly spend, unless you want to be a **** about it, and buy a few 50k fish, even though you have no interest in fish.

I mean, say he had an offer from Barcelona, for 400k a week! I'm sure there are people out there that shallow, that would take it just because it's more money. But in the grand scheme of things, surely you'd go wherever you felt happiest, because the difference between 200k a week and 400k a week is negligible in real terms of quality of life, even if it is double the wage?

That's why I'd disagree with it. Because it [i]is[/i] a pointless waste of money which could be put to better use.

That said, as mentioned previously, there's an international aspect to this, and it probably brings a lot of money into the UK economy regardless. (although there's probably a moral debate in there somewhere about making the rest of the world poorer!)

Some have earned more than Rooney in Manchester 🙂

But if he moved abroad he wouldn't be contributing anything to Uk would he not ?
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Ohhmy****inggod! I had no idea footballers were paid to play football!

(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Seriously, so what, lots of players get paid lots of money. Lots of players get peanuts and have to work out a new career once they've got to about 40.

He's a top player at a top club getting top wages - just how it works in all walks of life. I could complain about how much a senior consultant in an NHS hospital earns, with private patients and other income such as speaking at medical conferences brings them compared to my earnings but hey, that's how it works.

Rightly or wrongly, people are clearly prepared to pay large amounts of their disposable income to a football club but not to the people who look after their health. It's tells you what you need to know about our society.

iirc Rooney doesn't pay sod all tax, he set up a Caymans island corporation to channel his money through.

If that payslip for Tevez is real (which I strongly doubt) then good on him for paying proper tax and not using the obscene loopholes that so many high earners do.

It would be interesting to see what the average person pays into the NHS every year compared to the average spend on supporting a football club.

When I was a season ticket holder at Leeds, I paid around £600 a year for the ticket + the odd pie and pint in the ground.

How much do I pay in taxation towards the NHS per annum?

It depends how much of that weekly wage is image rights. I seem to recall that if he's using a PLC in terms of the owning the image rights then he'd pay a lot less tax on that 300k than he probably should.
My issue with this is that footballer payrises are being funded from the extortionate ticket prices currently charged by most premier league sides.

Wayne Roonet would be playing football for 300quid a week were it not for the eejits paying sky sports subs.

It is not really relevant to bring up the nhs in a comparison. That amount of money for playing a game is just sick. Full stop.

The people I am surprised by is the ordinary paying fan. This kind of thing is a living insult to people who fork out a large percentage of their disposable income to watch these teams play. I don't understand (but no doubt someone will tell me) how anyone can support a team that pays their players that much whilst demanding several hundred pounds a year to deign to allow them to sit on a hard plastic seat to watch them play. It is just willingly having the piss taken, being a galactic-class mug. In my opinion, obviously. 🙂

Watching football seems pretty cheap compared to what I pay for cycling.

How can he set up a Cayman Island company. It's not like we don't know where he is every week?

Because tax laws are written to allow the rich to drive big ****ing trucks of money through the loopholes.

While 300k a week would be reallllly nice 😀

The NHS is just piss poorly managed full stop.

There is masive wastage we resently had a bit of kit from a NHS supply company there was a slight repairable defect on it there answer was just to chuck it out. The kit in question was worth £5K and it was heading for a skip 🙄

Always having worked for private companies myself and others just could not believe it, throwing 5K away FFS.

Or the matress that we had at the house while we thought the MIL would make it out of hospital but sadly didn't all we did was to take the cover of it and once again it was classed as "used" and would be scrapped.

And don't get me started on the IT **** ups over the years good grief.

I would never want the NHS to go private EVER! but if they ran it AS EFFICIENTLY as a private company maybe there would be more funds for the sick and needy IMO

Gate receipts pay for the kit boy

Telly money is the source of the real money. If you don't like it STOP PAYING FOR SKY/BT it's perfectly frickin simple.

edit:Oh and half these a-holes that do pay forit if you said to them pay it in tax instead to improve the NHS they'd go chuffin ballistic. A-holes.
double edit: I love footy by the way

No Sky here. Can take or leave soccer if I'm honest. Certainly more fun to play than watch.

From a couple of quick googles to get some ballpark figures:

Turnover for uk league clubs: £3bn
Number of regular uk footballers: 2m
Number better than Rooney 0 (maybe 1, if simians count)

Given those figures, I find it surprising he doesnt earn more.

I would never want the NHS to go private EVER! but if they ran it AS EFFICIENTLY as a private company maybe there would be more funds for the sick and needy IMO

Like Enron, or general motors or RBS or Merril Lynch or Rover or............................

Free market economy or not it's a Crass statement when this kind of money is being banded around, and paid, to someone who kicks a ball for 90mins once a week.

It's immoral.

Well a footballer can command this sum of money because 76000 people will pay upwards of £60 a week to see him play then on top of that you have the people paying £50 per month for their sky subscription then you have the global audience on top of that. Then there is the merchandising. Basically he's getting paid that because Man Utd think he's worth it.

Firstly, why do media persist on the per week way of presenting football salaries. Basically he's in £15million a year.

Less than some film stars get per film.

Footballers, actors, are just product.

I do wonder if the problem is that people don't like working class boys (footballers not actors!) earning more than they ever could dream of, by being world class at a skill that they have no talent at.

Them grapes are sour

Rooney will also earn that kind of money for 6 more years. Whereas an actor or a musician could continue for decades.

Free market economy or not it's a Crass statement when this kind of money is being banded around, and paid, to someone who kicks a ball for 90mins once a week.

There are millions of people in this country who would be more capable than you or I at our respective jobs. There are a handful more capable than Rooney, and crucially none are English. I am absolutely certain that Rooney has put more effort into his career than 90 mins once a week 😉

He is a man at the top of his profession, indeed one of the best in his industry, so commands top wages.

What he does for a living is wholly irrelevant - he is a top earner in his sector because he is at the top of it.

A top doctor, a top teacher, a top banker, a top accountant, a top salesman, all expect to earn the top wages for THEIR sector. Wayne Rooney's sector has high wages due to short career lifespan and high revenue generation. Therefore it can reasonably be expected the wage structures will be skewed higher.

I don't see any problem with this.

Free market economy or not it's a Crass statement when this kind of money is being banded around, and paid, to someone who kicks a ball for 90mins once a week.

It's immoral.

Do you know any top tier footballers? If you saw the training, the diet management (told what to eat, when to eat, when to eat - very much like being a toddler) etc then you'd understand it is not just kicking a ball round for 90 minutes.

I have 2 childhood friends who played at near top level and it was an eye opener seeing things develop for them as they grew up - and then seeing one (who played at international level) lose it all after injury cut his career short in his early 20s.

Hes not 'top' though. Top 10. Maybe 8th.

Lots better. ****ing ridiculous wage. How desperate are Utd?!!

a game played by fools, watched and funded by idiots,

any working class man who can honestly condone this deserves to be shot.

Hes not 'top' though. Top 10. Maybe 8th.

Lots better. **** ridiculous wage. How desperate are Utd?!!

He has a massively marketable brand though - particularly in the far East where Rooney replica shirts etc can sell in massive volume, so his value is not just as a "player", it's as part of a brand, which a top athlete in any discipline needs to be now if they are to be commercially viable.

My name is Jamie.

...and I am an idiot.

I'm off to get shot now. It's all I deserve.

Goodbye cruel world 😥

Ton - played by fools, are you sure. £15m a year to play a sport they enjoy. 🙂

olddog, in my mind...yes... 😀

Firstly, why do media persist on the per week way of presenting football salaries. Basically he's in £15million a year.

Less than some film stars get per film.

Footballers, actors, are just product.

I do wonder if the problem is that people don't like working class boys (footballers not actors!) earning more than they ever could dream of, by being world class at a skill that they have no talent at.

Them grapes are sour

Don't agree at all. We live in world where people are starving. There are people in our own country who can't afford to eat properly. Like I said before, I don't generally mind people earning a lot of money, but there comes a point when it becomes unreasonable.

Many of the poorest countries in the world are home to a very small number of people with the most lavish lifestyles. And they live those lifestyles at the expense of the rest of the population. It's part of the reason those nations are "poor". It's a simple case of unevenly distributed wealth.

In poorer countries the moral implications are often very obvious because the divide is so massive, and the poverty so visible. But from a moral perspective there's not a massive difference between that and Wayne Rooney earning 300k a week. It is the same uneven distribution of wealth. Doesn't matter if you're an actor, a footballer or scientist, having more money than you can meaningfully spend when others can't afford to feed themselves is just wrong.

wendy ball, eh WENDY ball? hahahahhahhahaHAHAHAHAAHHAA, hilarious dear boy, original and utterly hilarious.
If someone getting paid £300000 a week to kick a ball about a field inspires such precious examples of wit and originality, it's money well spent, and you can tell your carer I said so.

Butcher - valid, and I substantially agree. But it isn't the paradigm in which we live. Come the revolution, comrade.

The bit I don't like us the critcism of footballers specifically, which seems to have class undertones. In the market society we live, talented working class lads shouldn't be criticised for earning loads for what they are good at, whereas others aren't as what they do is valued by the chattering classes. That is the point I'm making really.

Ironically, I'm sure they'd be happy to play for pretty much any normal wage if it was the going rate.

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it does highlight how unbalanced the world is when a wendyballer (just for chubbybloke;-) gets that salary and 2 million children die a year because of poor nutrition across the globe

especially when he channels it through an offshore account to reduce his tax bill

but its the people who buy the shirts, tickets,sky subs etc that are paying him really im sure they get pleasure out of it even if it may look like a tax on stupidity to others (but then how much does a bicycle cost)

Come the revolution, comrade.

Yes. That always works out so well.

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There is masive wastage we resently had a bit of kit from a NHS supply company ...
Always having worked for private companies myself and others just could not believe it, throwing 5K away FFS.

Would that be NHS Supply Chain, which is operated by "DHL Supply Chain Limited"?

Footballers are just symptomatic of inequality. I was going to write a load of incisive other stuff about the crisis tendencies of free market capitalism and the nature of inequality, but am too pissed

... but there will be loads of hypocritical reporting and hand wringing in the press, radio, TV - although they rely on such controversy for thei jobs.

bails no don't think so has NHS all over their building, vans and uniforms.

Some comparisons
They were paying George Clooney 100,000 per episode of ER back in 98
Robert Downey Jnr took about $75million a year a couple of years back
Shia la whatsit took $16m back in 2010 to hang out with gorgeous women in Transformers
Adam Sandler $50m in 2010 for a series of shit films
Rory Mcilroy takes about $17m to walk round with some sticks
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/06/18/mayweather-tops-list-of-the-worlds-100-highest-paid-athletes/

In all of these things it puts the best of the best (with the exception of Adam Sandler) in front of people. They have a time to earn and they make the most of it.
The tax some of these places pay funds things like the NHS.

Rooney will also earn that kind of money for 6 more years. Whereas an actor or a musician could continue for decades.

it does highlight how unbalanced the world is when [s]a wendyballer (just for chubbybloke;-) gets that salary[/s] people spend thousands of pounds on push bikes and audis and 2 million children die a year because of poor nutrition across the globe

especially when [s]he channels it through an offshore account[/s]people use all sorts of schemes like cycle to work and ducking import duty on imported goods to reduce [s]his[/s] their tax bill

to badly quote an old novel "let the perfect ones lob the rocks first"

Cycle to work and ISA's are small amounts of limited scope to positively encourage certain things seen as good for the majority.

Offshore tax avoidance scams are only available to the wealthy, trying to compare them is quite pathetic.

Really why should anyone give a 40% tax break to someone to buy another bike that they won't ride to work? I have no problem with it for lower income groups but it's a cheeky perk to a lot of people who can already afford it. It's about as pathetic as getting all uppity about people earning "obscene" amounts and implying they are avoiding tax.

A tax break with a maximum value of 400 quid designed to encourage people to cycle and available to all. It is not even close to tax avoidance schemes worth millions that just encourage greed and only available to the very rich. Do you think PAYE employees can go to accounts and tell them to funnel their salaries through the Caymans for tax purposes?

It is completely idiotic to even try and claim they are the same thing.