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Looking to replace my 15 year old octavia scout. I could go for the same again. Probably 4-5 years old. However the kids are taller, much taller and I'm thinking superb or 5 seat kodiaq. Any Kodiaq owners here. They seem cheaper than the Superb by a margin. Are they worth looking at
I've just got a new kodiaq, brilliant car, loads of space. Owners of older ones that I know also speak positively. I've also had an Octavia for comparison but it does feel a lot bigger when parking.
How many kids? A mate replaced an Octavia with a Superb as he and his two teenagers are all six foot tall.
That said, our eldest is six foot and we're now on our third Octavia, something like 21 years of them.
I'm guessing either will have a better mpg than the Kodiaq, if that is a factor.
I'm 6'5 and my 16 year old is 6'3. The wee one is 5'6 but I have a suspicion he'll be bigger than me in a while.
Mpg and boot space are a definite factor. Can't see us managing with a boot smaller than the octavia. That was a major selling point for the octavia last time.
I'd recommend a Superb. You'll get four big adults in with the bonus of boot space
The big problem is finding a used example that hasn't been a taxi during its life and the Gov MOT checker doesn't show the difference where standard MOTs have been taken (some councils test to MOT standards and issue exemptions)
If you want interior space you want the Superb. End of.
(Also you're not driving an SUV so can enjoy better fuel economy, better handling, better in bed etc.)
The way to avoid an ex-taxi Superb is to go for the Petrol versions, more specifically the 280 4x4
Also you're not driving an SUV so can enjoy better fuel economy, better handling, better in bed etc
No wonder MrsMC doesn't want me to get an SUV, things are bad enough already....
In STW recommend what you have, a Superb.
Mines been, eer Superb. I’m 6’4” and both my boys are the same size, there’s loads of room inside and the boot is plenty big enough if you want to take up serial killing or body disposal. 😉
I have a Kodiaq which I really like but it's the 7 seat version as we use the boot seats probably once every couple of months. If I didn't need the extra seats I'd try and get a superb for more rear seats space and a better boot. The Kodiaq isn't bad but like all SUVs is not as big as you expect albeit I imagine the 5seat Kodiaq has a bigger boot than ours.
We’ve put 140000 miles on a 65 plate superb that we bought 2 years old. 2 teenagers both nearly or over 6ft, heaps of rear seat and boot space, it’s been very good. 2.0 diesel. Panoramic roof came with it, very nice to have.
Had a Kodiaq. Dad and brother in law both have superb kombis. All are great cars, but a superb is bigger, has a less compromised boot (it’s flat to load, is taller, wider, lower, will take a washing machine upright), rides better, handles better, is more economical. 2nd row space on the Kodiaq is almost as good as in the superb. I seem to remember if you specify the 3rd row then the 2nd row was slightly higher to accommodate the sliding seat bases. Don’t expect yeti levels of clever folding/sliding/removability.
Dad has a mk2 kombi with the 170tdi (the emissions scandal one) it’s been amazing over the last 14 years, but we’re starting to see some corrosion now on the front wings, tailgate and I suspect the sills.
Bro is on his second superb kombi sportline, first was an oil burner and this one is a petrol which he’s tuned to about 400brake and 500nm. It goes. I reckon it would give my Giulia a hard time as it’s 4motion. Really reliable as well - apart from the usual haldex5 continual farce. Think he’s on about 130k now and looking for a fun replacement - he was on about an Arteon but no suspect will seek out another superb
3rd row seats on the Kodiaq are a joke: you either need to be Oscar Pistorious or a child. If you’re a child you can’t use a booster seat or a high back child seat, unless it’s some random Britax as stipulated in the manual, but which if you phone Britax themselves they say you can’t use as they’ve definitely not tested it. One of the reasons we sacked ours off and bought the caravelle. Load space with the 3rd row up is hopeless - my old abarth 500 could carry more.
5-stroke version of the ea888 used in the Kodiaq was pretty frugal, smoother than the equivalent in the superb at the time but then it was tuned for different things with a smaller turbo, the funky overlapping valve timing and oil that looked like water it was that thin (presumably for economy). VW gave up on that and went back to their default 0w30 they use everywhere after our second service. I suspect they were encountering issues.
Despite my wife completely adoring her caravelle, she still complains that she misses her Kodiaq. It was littered with tech, rode and drove beautifully and was extremely well built. Being a proper short arse she enjoyed the view of the road it gave her. Yes it was compromised, but I can see why she loved it.
I’ve had 2 kodiaqs over the last 7 years. Both 7 seaters and the back row only get occasional use but handy to have. The sliding 2 nd row is really useful to max out either passenger space or boot space. Ours is really comfy and just a really useful do it all vehicle. It tows, goes off-road, goes well on the road, is not at all tiring to drive and has all the safety bits I was after. We really like them and will prob replace ours this yr with the mk2 facelift. I’ve driven ours from Alnwick to Southampton non stop, not even for a wee with the kids asleep in the back and it’s so relaxing to drive! Maybe a superb is bigger but I do quite a few miles off the highway each week so good to have the ground clearance. This one has the spare tyre but the previous one didn’t. I preferred the extra space to stash outdoor gear instead of the spare.
We've had a Kodiaq for 6 years now and at one point had 2, my wife has had her diesel in SEL spec from new and wouldn't change it for anything else right now. Only major issue was the mechatronic bit of the DSG failing but it was covered by the extended warranty. I had a petrol 4x4 sport line and it rode worse on the bigger wheels and was quite thirsty. Rear seats have hardly been used but you couldn't get the higher spec in a 5 seat version. I'd like something just like a Kodiaq but as an EV to replace my ID5.
This is a handy website for comparing sizes and load space
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/skoda-superb-2023-estate-vs-skoda-kodiaq-2016-suv/
This is a handy website for comparing sizes and load space
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/skoda-superb-2023-estate-vs-skoda-kodiaq-2016-suv/
Brilliant advice from all. Very much appreciated. Had a look at a Kodiaq today. It would do the job but think I'll see if I can find a superb that hasn't been used as a taxi or for disposal of bodies. Not sure how it's better in bed and I think I'd be breaking forum rules if I reported back on that.
VW Sharan and Seat Alhambra should be up there as well. That's what our next vehicle is likely to be
Also look at VW Sharan and Seat Alhambra l. One of those will be our next vehicle.
@cp I’d take a very good look the shalhambra and give it a proper test drive. We had one for a few days recently as a courtesy car and it was total crock of crap. Struggled to get more than 24mpg out of its 1.5 turbo petrol - which is normally a great little VW engine; truck turbulence blew it around like it was on the set of twister and it was no more practical than a 7seat Kodiaq as it lacked the previous version’s fully flexible / removable seating. I thought our t6 was primitive, but that thing seemed to be generationally archaic.
third attempt at posting this. We were looking at Superbs and Kodiaq's but I think we're actually going to go with a VW Sharan or Seat Alhambra - they really are great use of space. Really practical, spacious and plenty of external visibility makes them not feel too big externally.
@cp I’d take a very good look the shalhambra and give it a proper test drive. We had one for a few days recently as a courtesy car and it was total crock of crap. Struggled to get more than 24mpg out of its 1.5 turbo petrol - which is normally a great little VW engine; truck turbulence blew it around like it was on the set of twister and it was no more practical than a 7seat Kodiaq as it lacked the previous version’s fully flexible / removable seating. I thought our t6 was primitive, but that thing seemed to be generationally archaic.
God knows when this reply might actually post... It seems the new forum is well and truly borked.
We've had one at work for the last 10 years. I think they're great. They feel planted to drive imo and I find the interior huge compared to SUVs of similar outside dimensions due to the boxy shape.
2.0 TDI though. Small petrol engine is not the right engine for a big car.
@cp I’d take a very good look the shalhambra and give it a proper test drive. We had one for a few days recently as a courtesy car and it was total crock of crap. Struggled to get more than 24mpg out of its 1.5 turbo petrol - which is normally a great little VW engine; truck turbulence blew it around like it was on the set of twister and it was no more practical than a 7seat Kodiaq as it lacked the previous version’s fully flexible / removable seating. I thought our t6 was primitive, but that thing seemed to be generationally archaic.
God knows when this reply might actually post... It seems the new forum is well and truly borked.
We've had one at work for the last 10 years. I think they're great. They feel planted to drive imo and I find the interior huge compared to SUVs of similar outside dimensions due to the boxy shape.
2.0 TDI though. Small petrol engine is not the right engine for a big car.