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I have about 10 books to read

Might want to start with bunker building, ration hoarding and hand to hand combat. Also how to make medicines out of household waste.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:14 am
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Farage and Bercow finding much to agree about (and laugh about) on C4.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:14 am
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ITV coverage is pretty good, quicker on results than BBC, no Bercow and not too much Peston, thankfully.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:15 am
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Non-sectarian NI party, allied to but not the same as the LDs (for example, Naomi Long didn’t take the coalition whip 2010-15)

Ah, right. Thank you.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:16 am
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Jess though.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:16 am
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There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.

Man are they going to be disappointed.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:18 am
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Not much Bercow? **** that.

"His material defect was that he was wrong" - or something to that effect was just said, how can you not be entertained by someone that outrageously confident?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:19 am
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Ian Lavery, almost like he read my earlier comment.

I think what we’re seeing in the Labour heartlands is that people are very aggrieved at the fact that the party has taken a stance on Brexit in the way they have; 17.4m people voted for Brexit, and basically being ignored is not a good recipe. I think democracy prevails. Ignore democracy, and to be quite honest the consequences will come back and bite you.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:19 am
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Is that actually Robert Peston or someone doing an impression of him?


 
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There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.

Yes. I suspect that if brexit is the price of getting govt to do some of the other important stuff that has been ignored for 3 years.

Labour also have to grapple with the idea that they are now a party with 3 divided groups - the urban, University grad socially liberal, the working class, socially conservative, former union people and the young. Good luck getting them in the same tent.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:21 am
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Chorley is weird.

Party	Candidate		Votes	%
Speaker	Lindsay Hoyle		26,831	67.3
Ind	Mark Brexit-Smith	9,439	23.7
Green	James Melling		3,600	9

No Tory, no Labour (is that usually what happens in the Speaker's constituency?) and someone named "Brexit-Smith" running as an Independent?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:26 am
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Hoyle is speaker, other main parties dont stand.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:28 am
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Ah right, cheers. I know Hoyle is Speaker, I didn't know others then stood aside in that instance.

Is Mr Brexit-Smith being somewhat duplicitous then in standing as an Indie rather than BP?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:31 am
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The way I read the situation is that Brexit was the issue

If you look at those early results and votes picked up by the Brexit party that's pretty obvious.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:33 am
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He was the Brexit candidate but they followed convention and stood down so he changed his name and stood as an independent.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:35 am
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ITV calling Redcar for Tories


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:40 am
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Think I've lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. 'Night all.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:47 am
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****ing Burnley's fallen.

Con gain
Burnley
Party	Candidate		Votes	%
Con	Antony Higginbotham	15,720	40.3
Lab	Julie Cooper		14,368	36.9
Lib Dem	Gordon Birtwistle	3,501	9
Brexit	Stewart Scott		3,362	8.6
Burnley	Charlie Briggs		1,162	3
Green	Laura Fisk		739	1.9
Ind	Karen Helsby Entwistle	132	0.3

Christ, I'm not well to start with but I genuinely think I'm going to be sick. Still waiting for my constituency "expected 3am" ie in 4 minutes, and we're slap in the middle of a pile of reds and blues.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:51 am
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Ex labour MP Ruth Smeeth just tore Corbyn a new arsehole live on sky hahah.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:54 am
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Think I’ve lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. ‘Night all.

I see you have pivoted to my view of the world and the nation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvY1OzoDbQ


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:57 am
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Dodds gone. Hilarious.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:58 am
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How's his dad's dog?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 2:59 am
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So anyone missing them yet?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sJqROHxjDA


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:00 am
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How’s his dad’s dog?

Doggone!


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:00 am
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So anyone missing them yet?

I think we've got quite enough lies, Fabrications and war zones to deal with, without bringing them back, don't you?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:04 am
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Predicted Tory seats being forecast down by 10 to 357


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:04 am
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Think I’ve lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. ‘Night all.

Yup. I’m going to try my best not to hold this against northerners though. Will be hard. Off to bed. I’ve drunk enough. School run will be fun.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:05 am
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I think we’ve got quite enough lies, Fabrications and war zones to deal with, without bringing them back, don’t you?

At least we were cool man.

War crimes have a certain ring to them.

Brexit and our current situation is just pathetic.

Also, has anyone seen my moral compass?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:06 am
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It's all over, isn't it.

They needed to gain 20 seats. They've already done that, they now just need to continue to break even over the next ~450 result announcements.

****.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:09 am
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Also, has anyone seen my moral compass?

It's in the pocket of your shell suit, with your happy Mondays bucket hat.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:11 am
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Yup, predicting majority of 76 now.

It’s done, night folk, see you on the other side.

It’s in the pocket of your shell suit, with your happy Mondays bucket hat.

This made me laugh.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:12 am
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Con gain
Hyndburn
Party	Candidate		Votes	%
Con	Sara Britcliffe		20,565	48.5
Lab	Graham Jones		17,614	41.5
Brexit	Gregory Butt		2,156	5.1
Lib Dem	Adam Waller-Slack	1,226	2.9
Green	Katrina Brockbank	845	2

Graham Jones has (narrowly) been our MP for as long as I can remember. Something stinks here.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:15 am
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Ooh Zacs gone!

I’m vaguely turned on.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:15 am
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It’s all over, isn’t it.

It ain't over til its over. They are down to a majority of 31. We knew the red wall was going to fall. Maybe the entire south goes labour to reamin.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:16 am
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Something stinks here.

Did you remember to flush?

66% brexit innit.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:18 am
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I hope you're right, but at this point I can but admire your optimism.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:19 am
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I can but admire your optimism.

Is it optimism if it's merely utter dread of the alternative?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:25 am
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Twitter suggests JC has resigned.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:25 am
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Twitter suggests that apples are made out of gravel.

I do hope it's true, but we're gonna need a source for that.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:29 am
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Ian Dunt do?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:29 am
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Corbyns true believers like Ash Sakar retweeting this...

Two really good points from
@novaramedia
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1.
@AyoCaesar
: “the project is socialism, not Corbynism”.

2.
@AaronBastani
: “this is a 30+ year project”. One election is just one battle in a much longer class struggle.

Anyone who thinks socialism depends on one election is v wrong

Hahah batten down on the stupidity for the cause comrades, that’ll learn em!


 
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do hope it’s true, but we’re gonna need a source for that.

He hasn't resigned but he did say in his speech that he wouldn't lead labour into the next GE.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:34 am
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Corbyn just stated he’s going to stay on to oversee Labours period of introspection and to help oversee the leader election.

Lol.

So more **** wittery then.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:34 am
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Flint gone.


 
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Rabb's won his seat by losing 20,000 of his 23,000 majority from last election. 18% swing, or twice labour's swing in the north. Close but no cigar.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:35 am
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I despair.

I'd start drinking heavily if I didn't have work in five hours. I should probably try and get some sleep, like that's going to happen.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:38 am
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Swinson gone!


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:45 am
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Halfway through and it's a demolition.

Party			Seats	Gains	Losses	Net	Total votes
Conservative		189	48	6	+42	7,349,488
Labour			123	9	36	-27	5,681,287
Scottish National Party	27	9	1	+8	658,759
Liberal Democrat	6	2	9	-7	1,763,038

Jesus.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:48 am
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this is just depressing as hell 😩


 
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The remarkable thing is the efficiency of the conservative vote. 30% more votes 50% more seats.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 3:52 am
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It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas - the people have rejected division and hate, the politics of us vs. them.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 4:21 am
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ahh ffsake...alister Jack has held onto Dumfries & Galloway...this is just **** depressing no matter the overall outcome.

He’s a closet racist entitled Tory prick 🤯


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 4:22 am
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Hopefully this new re-invented Labour Party will have PR as an aim. Hillary Benn said problems were

Brexit
Corbyn
Not believing they could deliver manifesto (ie too many promises)

Agreed.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 4:25 am
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It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas

Just what the turkeys wanted.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 4:26 am
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It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas –

Boris Johnson's got it, it's oven ready, and it's a turkey!


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 4:35 am
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And it's in the fridge...


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:11 am
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Itchen has been held by Royston, 31 vote win 2017 grown to almost 4500... Unbelievable.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:11 am
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Friday the 13th, a nightmare on Downing Street...


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:11 am
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Well, that’s that.

What’s the betting that the ‘one nation’ Johnson talks of is ‘England’?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:13 am
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High Peak has gone back to Tory by less than 1000 votes (0.9%).

🙁


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:16 am
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Depressingly just realised that brexit is a certainty now. Nothing can stop them. Jesus.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:46 am
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Did you know that female hyenas have a faux penis?

I am just reading amazing animal facts as I have the most hideous in laws coming round Saturday for dinner. They believe in the death penalty, brexit and foam at the mouth at any mention of immigrants.

To get through after this election result, I'll just resort to talking about my amazing animal facts (funnily enough, I don't think they are familiar with facts)


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 5:50 am
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To all the people who voted green in Stroud, well done you just got yourselves a Tory MP.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:01 am
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How Andrew Neil has the brass neck to grill everyone else on why it went the way it did, when Boris and the Tories played him like a fiddle and made him and the BBC look like a bunch of idiots is beyond me.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:03 am
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Here in Bassetlaw the Tories took a 5000 deficit to a 14,000 lead. Tories have double the vote of Labour in an ex-mining community.

That's staggering.

We were 69% leave and everyone I spoke to wanted Brexit.

In hindsight Corbyn should've stuck with Leave and we could've had still worked with Leave but with a Labour government option.

I fear with boundary changes - this may never be reversed.

No point blaming anyone other than the electorate.

Remain has been wiped out.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:09 am
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What's the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we're definitely heading for Brexit?


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:34 am
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Great news to wake up to, what an early Christmas present. The result was a certainty outside of the ludicrous bubble in here, but what a margin!


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:35 am
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No point blaming anyone other than the electorate

Err, no, the blame lies squarely with JC and his team. They have been an utterly useless opposition for the last 2 years.
They should have got a landslide victory against the worst Government in 30 years, yet they have gone backwards by a long way, and it seems, still cannot see they are totally out of touch with the Electorate.


 
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Rone. Certainty. It gives people a clear view of where things are going.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:38 am
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No point blaming anyone other than the electorate.

While the swing in Brexit Labour seats has been something like 10-11% to the Tories, the swing in remain Labour seats has been 7-9% to the Tories. You can blame Brexit for a bit, but Corbyn's Leadership has very obviously been a massive impact.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:42 am
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Err, no, the blame lies squarely with JC and his team. They have been an utterly useless opposition for the last 2 years.

No it doesn't.

The electorate made a choice which in 2017 excluded a 2nd ref. That's pretty much the only thing that has changed for Labour.

The electorate made the decision.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:42 am
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Tories. You can blame Brexit for a bit, but Corbyn’s Leadership has very obviously been a massive impact.

I won't deny it's a factor for some.

But we had Corbyn in 2017. The main thing that has changed is adding a remain option.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:44 am
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What’s the betting that the ‘one nation’ Johnson talks of is ‘England’?

It sure as hell won't be Scotland, most of us voted SNP to keep the * out.

Fat lot of good it does though. Almost an entire country doesn't want a conservative government, but gets it anyway because that's what the neighbours voted for. *.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:44 am
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Well well England has gone one way, with a large Tory majority and a pro Brexit majority Scotland has gone another with the Tories losing seats and Brexit rejected (Again) Time for a second indyref.


 
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What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?

Majority government, or more correctly a non hung parliament. It would have climbed regardless of the party that got a majority . A hung parliament is uncertainty, where as now business at least knows what direction we are now headed.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:46 am
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Time for a second indyref.

A hung parliament could have delivered it, this one won't. Scotland will be staying in the UK at least for the next 5 years, probably longer.

"A vote for Labour is a vote for Scottish independence", -- December 2024.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:47 am
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What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?

Remember all those billionaires that Jeremy Corbyn was going to tax, and all those companies that he was going to nationalize?

Well now they can invest in the UK.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:49 am
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Meanwhile in Scotland...

SNP won with more votes than in 2017 in North Ayrshire whilst Labour got their arses absolutely handed to them. Like across much of the country (NE Fife excepted). 2 votes short of Gary going for a swim though.


 
Posted : 13/12/2019 6:54 am
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But we had Corbyn in 2017

In the seats where Brexit mattered, Labour were stuffed, I think there should have been a programme much earlier to start to make folk realise why it's never going to be a good thing. But that never happened as the Labour leadership also wants Brexit. and the remain seats just don't trust Corbyn at his word. I think in 2017 he was still a newish and untried commindity. This time around folk have had a chance to get to know him and the folk around him, and frankly they mostly don't like what they see. Labour may be rescued by a new Leader, but the ex-commies behind the throne aren't going to give up power, so it'll be more of the same.

I can't see Labour making any grounds up in the next election either if they stick with that.


 
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