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I queued and heard a few murmurings of fear and dread from other (mature) voters. Have even e-mailed my kids and told them to think carefully about who they vote for and why.
No dogs to be seen but saw on Twitter #reindeeratpollingstations, a terrific pic of two reindeer and what looked to be a dog sitting in the sleigh. It's good to smile.
Even though it goes against my principals and I hate myself for it, I'm going to vote tactically and for Labour.
My constituency has previously been Labour but has been Tory for the last 2 elections. Lib dems unfortunately don't stand a chance. Hopefully this will be the first time my vote actually makes a difference. At 43 years old that's pretty sad...
Boris hasn't voted for himself.
It was more 'convenient' for him to vote in Westminster.
What message is this sending to his potential constituents?
Odds on No Majority still shortening and Tory Majority still drifting although when I checked this morning it looks like there had been an adjustment the other way during the night.
If I had to take a guess at where the real probabilities would be, I would say 60% - 65% chance of a Tory Majority, 33% - 38% chance of No Majority, and 2% to 5% chance of a Labour Majority.
The thing to remember is that Wisdom of Crowds type analysis could be significantly skewed by the biased coverage. As Craig Murray pointed out, it has been focusing on working class Labour voters backing the Tories and completely ignoring Tory voters who are abandoning ship to vote for Lib Dems or, dare I say it, Labour.
Finally faced the apocalyptic weather a little while ago, the few minutes walk to the polling station and back was a real struggle! 😈
Unfortunately, it didn't wake me up much, I still feel like death warmed up more than usual. 🙁
I'm going to call it now. Nicola Sturgeon will be the next PM.
So just vote for whichever candidate you agree most with
Normally Edukator I would agree with you, but this is no normal election. The most important task today is to avoid a tory becoming your MP even if that means voting for a party you normally wouldn't.
mother a life long tory voter registered her protest vote by voting Green (a rural norfolk constiuency where they've lost nearly all their public transport and theres virtually no doctors services and they'll still return a pig wearing a blue rosette with a 20000 majority) Which is a little odd as she quite likes Blowjo
Well done Mum. Hard thing to do.
The most important task today is to avoid a tory becoming your MP even if that means voting for a party you normally wouldn’t.
That's the way I'm seeing it as well.
Craig Whittaker the mormon, child beater Tory MP for CalderValley did you say ?
Craig Whittaker the mormon, child beater Tory MP for CalderValley did you say ?
And lives in Kirklees.
The very one. Why anyone votes for him is beyond me.
"they’ll still return a pig wearing a blue rosette with a 20000 majority"
Matthew Hancock is 'my MP' and he'll get around a 20k majority again. Interestingly though, a lot of older (true blue) people I have been talking to in the last few weeks (70s upwards) have said they will not be able to bring themselves to vote Conservative this time round.
Farmers (another reliable source of Con votes) aren't that happy with BJ either. When he promised we would leave by Oct 31st come what may, many felt they had to sell their crops before this cast iron exit date. Supply and demand meant that prices were depressed and as a result a lot of them have lost a lot of money and are therefore not that well disposed towards Johnson & Co. Oh yes, that and not having anyone to get the crops in over the colder months.
You never know.....
I would rather have Abbot that Patel by about 100 billion times
Just when you think she's reached peak stupidity she turns up to vote today like this 😂 😂 😂 Unless it's fake!
Farmers (another reliable source of Con votes) aren’t that happy with BJ either. When he promised we would leave by Oct 31st come what may, many felt they had to sell their crops before this cast iron exit date. Supply and demand meant that prices were depressed and as a result a lot of them have lost a lot of money and are therefore not that well disposed towards Johnson & Co. Oh yes, that and not having anyone to get the crops in over the colder months.
It is far worse than that, the current weather is hammering the industry, i am hearing of fields being ploughed under in the spring and resown with all the costs associated with a failed crop.
Yup, it is pretty tough for farmers at the moment. The fields around here are waterlogged and it can't be good for the 2020 harvest. A perfect storm for the agricultural community maybe.
wow - guido are getting really desperate!
Just when you think she’s reached peak stupidity she turns up to vote today like this
Oh, the humanity!
Yup, it is pretty tough for farmers at the moment
Interestingly near us, every sign in a field has been Lib Dem. Massive ones too.
Normally there would be the odd one or 2 and it would be Con.
Even if it was genuine, she hasn’t come out and said people being hungry is nothing to do with central government cuts, and all to do with failures in local government (who have born the brunt of central government cuts). Our current Home Secretary is a nasty duplicitous piece of work.
Even though it goes against my principals and I hate myself for it, I’m going to vote tactically and for Labour.
My constituency has previously been Labour but has been Tory for the last 2 elections. Lib dems unfortunately don’t stand a chance. Hopefully this will be the first time my vote actually makes a difference. At 43 years old that’s pretty sad…
Dont worry, I held my nose and voted Lib Dem
Just when you think she’s reached peak stupidity she turns up to vote today like this
And today’s award for not-the-sharpest-tool-in-the-box goes to...no, not Diane...
Maybe she's hurt her foot and is wearing two different sizes due to swelling.
But yeah you know whatever.
mother a life long Labour voter registered her protest vote by voting Green. Just saying.
Spotted just now on Facebook:
"Thinking of not bothering to vote because of the rain? Remember there are people having to sleep in it."
Sadly out of my family I think I'm the only one placed to actually make a difference. My Dad lives in a Conservative constituency that makes the rotten borough in Blackadder look average. Basically a dead pig in a blue rosette would be elected there by a majority of 25,000. It's really depressing to think that your vote is completely meaningless. 🙁
My Mum lives in a staunchly Labour constituency which is great.
My sister is another large Conservative majority place.
I'm the only one in a marginal seat.
Nice wee stroll to polling place in Kirkliston today (Edinburgh West, two way tie between SNP and Lib Dem last time with Lib Dem taking it). Gambled that there wouldn't be much too much of a swing towards the Tories due to more and more young families moving in, so voted with my heart for SNP (and a little bit with my head, thinking we'd be better off independent and in EU rather than in UK and out of EU!).
My wife cocked up and missed her missed deadline for postal vote. A little bit of me is celebrating this as she has been a lifelong Tory voter having been indoctrinated by her father (lovely man, but also a Daily Mail reader, if that's not too much of a contradiction in terms). Even worse, her sister votes blue also, as a hard up mother of three nurse! Would love to sit down and ask her just WTF she is thinking... Probably "imigants!".
On the flip side, my wife had been muttering about not being able to vote for BoJo, but also not being able to bring herself to vote SNP or Labour, so would probably have voted Lib Dem. She might just have been saying this so I'd stop asking her if she was still voting Tory...
She can take her postal vote to the polling station, but in the circumstances maybe tell her that tomorrow.
@13thfloormonk I might be talking bollocks but I think you can take your postal vote in to the station of you missed the deadline? Maybe don't tell her unless she's had a change of heart though...
Yes, you can, the returning officer just needs to have received it by the same time the polls shut (in effect get it there by 10pm)
But, maybe in this case.....no, that would be undemocratic.
On that point I like the facebook posts saying that if you want to really vote for Boris and Brexit, make sure to put an X in both boxes to reinforce the point. (if you're dumb enough to do that you probably shouldn't be trusted with the pencil they give you let alone a vote)
Do I go on my ge avoiding, very damp night ride, os say fk it & crack open the beers once the kids ha e gone down?
Certain it'll be a Tory win, so we're all **** anyway, right?
On that point I like the facebook posts saying that if you want to really vote for Boris and Brexit, make sure to put an X in both boxes to reinforce the point. (if you’re dumb enough to do that you probably shouldn’t be trusted with the pencil they give you let alone a vote)
I saw a similar post saying that due to anticpated very high demand at polling stations, if Labour and Lib Dem voters could please come along on Thursday and Conservative / Brexit could all do Friday, that would ease the queues nicely.
Anyone else feel an uneasy, sicky feeling in the pit of their stomach? I’m not normally massively bothered, but this election... it’s really got to me. 🤢
My other half thinks I’m bonkers to be bothered 😏
I’m going to call it now. Nicola Sturgeon will be the next PM.
That would be a constitutional stretch but still probably more chance than Jo Swinson!
People of East Dunbartonshire please vote Jo out of parliament altogether
Bit more movement towards a HP in the betting markets over the last hour...
Anyone else feel an uneasy, sicky feeling in the pit of their stomach?
Yes. I don't think I've ever thought that one of the options would be so damaging before.
Anyone else feel an uneasy, sicky feeling in the pit of their stomach?
Yes, very but then I've had that feeling since the morning after the 2016 referendum.
My Tory MP had a majority of 23,326 in 2017, all I can hope for is that it'll be a bit leaner this time around.
I’ve had that feeling since the morning after the 2016 referendum.
VERY much this.....
My constituency - Vale of Glamorgan could be close. Not a massive fan of Welsh Labour for local reasons but this is definitely not a win win situation! Hope Cairns is kicked out!
Overheard in the corner shop from the mouth of mouthy flat-capped pensioner:
“Course I voted for boris, can’t vote for corbyn or he’ll let all the terrorists in”
🙁
Like @crazy-legs had this sinking feeling since the 2016 referendum. I'm slowly coming to accept that on the whole we're not a nice bunch as otherwise why would we keep voting for parties that screw the 99%?
What makes this whole kerfuffle worse is that if we don't care for our fellow country folk how are we going to minimise the impact that the cluster muck that is climate change is going to have?
Yep, really am quite concerned about the outcome of this one. I can imagine this being studies generations in the future as the knee point of the sudden decline.
I voted, wrong lizard might get in otherwise
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/162557-it-comes-from-a-very-ancient-democracy-you-see-you
It doesn’t feel over dramatic (well maybe a bit) to feel a bit like this might be the UK’s 1933 moment.
I'm always nervous, but this is the most drastic turning point election I can remember. Not since Thatcher have the alternatives been more drastically different.
Anyone else feel an uneasy, sicky feeling in the pit of their stomach?
Nah, whatever happens with how the vote goes south of the border i figure that Scotland will vote accordingly and independence at the earliest opportunity will be the only possible outcome, i do feel sorry for those down south who are stuck with a bunch of ****s ruling over them but there's plenty of room up here if you wish to escape from the delusional brexit at all costs mass hysteria.
As with Somafunk I can see only one way it's going to go if the UK does go to shit.
We might still sink but it's easier to bail out a lifeboat than a cruise ship.
"I'm alright Jock"? 🙂
Anyone else feel an uneasy, sicky feeling in the pit of their stomach?
Yup - because whatever happens we are in for more turmoil - a lot of it. If Westminster goes tory then Scotland will go independent - with all the turmoil that brings. If its a hung parliament then its turmoil anyway
Rusty - its not a nice feeling but we do at least have an escape hatch up here. Scotland has not voted for tories for something like 60 years now.
It would feel like leaving my friends down south to their fate rather
V8.... We had a small run in yday.... But believe it or not, we're probably on the same "side"
I'm with your wife.... It's gonna be OK.
I believe in the un-reported Tory swing vote..... For all those who would have voted Labour but are drawn to brexit... There are an equal number who know Boris is a lying toad and will not vote for him.
If Scotland goes independent, they should (if they know what they are doing) allow immigration from rUK. I might move.
So done my civic duty and voted - icluding a proxy vote in a differnt constituency. turnout looks high up here.
Hung parliament looking more likely to me now an I am hping for a few "Portillo moments" - with Swinson at the top of the list jointly with Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaab
Maybe it's time to start thinking about where in Scotland would best suit us.
Somewhere warm, sunny and no midgies?
Just read this gem:
"There was a sweet old lady outside the polling station with a blue rosette, meaning she was a representative of the conservative party. I went to the presiding polling officer and said I felt threatened by her. She looked at me and asked "Seriously?" I said yes with a big grin. They had to ask her to leave. "
I've been dreading this day since the brexit referendum, I just hope it doesn't completely go to shit. Anything but Tory would be a win at the moment.
I was thinking on the drive home - Labour seem to have come up with a slew of new policies for the manifesto and just afterwards. I wonder if this is in recognition of the fact that they best they can hope for is a coalition, and they stuffed their manifesto so they have stuff they can cut when their potential partner demands it (i.e. free broadband). And if they don't get the chance to form a coalition then it's immaterial.
Yes, very but then I’ve had that feeling since the morning after the 2016 referendum.
I had it 2 years before that and it's been worse than I'd imagined it could be.
V8…. We had a small run in yday…. But believe it or not, we’re probably on the same “side”
Yep and for that I apologise. Bit wound up and snappy at the moment. I admire your optimism and hope that you’re correct.
The movement in the odds is interesting - the pace of change is glacial but the direction of travel is definitely convergence of Tory majority v no overall majority
“I’m alright Jock”? 🙂
I know it's probably said in jest but absolutely not. I'm under no illusions that independence wouldn't be an easy ride and would throw up as many problems as brexit already does (land borders being a major one). However when you have nothing to lose I'd rather try my luck that way.
I'd sincerely hope rUK would be welcome as well.
If Labour got this I wonder how they will counter an Indyref? Federalism? Finally get all the devolved parliaments on an equal footing. Because we're not falling for another promise it's just going to be better.
Every nation gets the government it deserves.
Which, if true, means that a Tory win is perhaps the least if this country's problems
I think there's a few fairly basic fixes that should be done to explain certain things to people things.
So every time you visit a doctor, go to hospital, have any treatment whatsoever, you get a bill stating the full breakdown of costs and it would be nice if it said "your x-ray technician was Polish, your doctor was Dutch, the cleaner on your ward was from Croatia, the nurses were from Romania, Bulgaria, Spain and Czech Republic....
At the bottom, it would say "paid by NHS, drug safety and management by EU" and then a warning like you get on cigarette packets saying
"could you have afforded this without the NHS?"
"immigrants saved your life"
An urgent overhaul of media rules around elections and minor things like - oh I dunno - not lying. A requirement for all party leaders to attend certain interviews on all channels, none of this weaselling out of it like BJ did with Andrew Neil. Full costed manifesto plans printed in full in all national newspapers.
None of that is actually that difficult or controversial. I spent a few days in a Swiss hospital (thankfully covered by EHIC and insurance) but the insurance company got a full breakdown of every drug, meal and operation I had along with a bloody big bill. I have no doubt that every doctor, surgeon and nurse was also fully traceable on that.
To be honest that's fairly basic audit trail stuff. Sadly we're so far down the rabbit hole of 24hr rolling news where everyone is desperate to be first so elementary things like fact-checking sort of fall by the wayside and a population that can't think in more than 280 characters and certainly won't read past the headline that I think we've become the architects of our own demise. Got a worrying feeling that The Hunger Games was not a dystopian sci-fi series but actually a documentary about the UK in 2025.
Anyone won yet 🤷♂️🤪
If Scotland goes independent, they should (if they know what they are doing) allow immigration from rUK. I might move.
I'm tempted. There is a large office there with the company I work for and my wife works for NHS. The cold and wet weather is the only thing stopping me really.
Voted nice and early this morning.
Labour have been campaigning pretty hard here so I'm holding out hope. The tories clearly think it's a pretty safe seat and have been very quiet.
So very British:
The Labour party leader, Jeremy Corbyn, was greeted by supporters and a lone protester as he and his wife, Laura Alvarez, arrived to cast their votes in his constituency of Islington North in London. Footage appeared to show the female protester, who was dressed as Elmo from Sesame Street, remonstrating with security guards and police who tried to block her, before Corbyn intervened to ask: “Hello guys, can we stop the arguing please?”
I know it’s probably said in jest but absolutely not. I’m under no illusions that independence wouldn’t be an easy ride and would throw up as many problems as brexit already does (land borders being a major one). However when you have nothing to lose I’d rather try my luck that way.
It was said in envy. 🙂
If it wasn't for the grandkids, we'd be there already.
Think I figured out where his strategy came from.
If it wasn’t for the grandkids, we’d be there already
Abduct them?
But then we wouldn't be able to give them back at the end of the day.
If we wanted to spend the next 12 years cleaning up after something, we'd get a dog.
Just out with a mate who’s an NHS nurse on a cancer ward. She’s voted labour. All the other nurses on the ward have voted Tory
We’re *ed!
Truly truly *ed!
Turkeys? Christmas?
If it wasn’t for the grandparents, we’d be there already.
I absolutely don’t want the UK to break up… but if Johnson gets his majority and pushes ahead… including with the vague promises of “bold” changes to checks on UK gov executive power and human rights… I think the people of Scotland and NI would be crazy not to get themselves out of the UK, and partnered with the rest of Europe, ASAP.
I think I’m going to wear odd shoes tomorrow.
I can't believe that Boris couldn't even be arsed to vote in his own constituency. They really can't help take the piss can they? It's like a massive "**** you"! to the rest of us isn't it.
How the exit poll goes will dictate if I stay up. I have a very negative feeling - like worse than the worst polls type feeling.