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If so many people think you are chippy, maybe, just maybe, there is something in it? Just a thought.
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You are the only person ever to call me chippy. I am Scottish,my expectations of success involve finishing above Italy.
If you lot are having to call so many other people chippy,maybe there is something in that? Just a thought.
I wonder how close to getting locked this thread is? 😯
Both Jamby and Kryton were using the chippy defence of Marler this morning.
Speaking for myself, I did not and thats a lie Duckman. I called AA on his repetition on the subject,
I then clarified my stance - still not in defence on Marler - in my very next post. My text contains no defence of Joe Marlers actions and anyone who cares to go back a couple of pages can see that.
I'd ask you not to speak out of turn on my behalf, thanks.
anagallis_arvensis - Member
You are selling me short,Zokes is the only person on here I have ever wanted to chin. Not seeing anything he posts helped me a great deal with that,and he is the only person I have used that with.
You do know that Hartley has an English mum and is a fluent english speaker?!?
Chups!!! Thats kiwi not english!!!
**** me duckman, if you can't see my comments were meant as a joke aimed squarely at all the racist comments going on here there's no sodding hope.
It'll be the lowest level flounce ever, but I've got no real reason to carry on on this thread / site. Have fun and I'll drop in towards the next world cup. Bye bye x
So can anyone explain how Sam Warburton an oustanding international 7 can play 60 mins for the Blues and do nothing what so ever of note?
Kryton57 - Member
Give it a rest AA FFS! You've managed to extrapolate your winging about Marler for pages and pages of this thread over a couple of weeks. It's getting very boring.Get over and help yourself by being slightly less bitter about something else English for a change.
Glad you clarified that the post above is is no way suggesting anybody talking about Marler is only doing it out of bitterness. I would also like to say that in no way makes you an apologist or belittles the gravity of making racist remarks during a game.
AA - I guess it shows how much the 6N takes out of you. Also, it's pretty hard to get yourself "up for it" week in week out.
And back to rugby;Is it just that,or are the injuries catching up? At his best,Warburton seemed to go through a game and not do much...While actually spending the whole game slipping under the refs radar and getting away with murder.
You just can't help yourself Duckman.
suggested anybody
Nope, not anybody or everybody but...
Give it a rest AA
Just one person. And no, it's not my place to apologise for Joe Marlers actions, I'm not him, his mum or responsible in any way for him. If you want him to apologise it's quite easy for you to contact him via Twitter and ask him yourself. Regarding the belittling of his actions, that wasn't the subject of my post, and because I chose not to make a statement in that post, albeit I did in the next - which you've chosen to show bias by not posting that one - you'd like to suggest I'm a pro supporter of his actions.
All that is you Duckman, trying to have a go at me, mostly with inaccuracy.
You've yet dragged this thread into one of implied insults and it's become less about the rugby and more about your bitterness toward anything English/individuals masked by your own insecurity. What's more there's more than 3 people contributing to it that have identified you as an issue - there is no smoke without fire as they say. Like tinybits said I want no more part of it, enjoy having a chat with yourself.
Flouncetastical!
You can have Underhill we dont want him.
Not now you don't but you might change your mind if he comes as good as people reckon.....
Personally I'd like to see more rugby discussed on here. It's generally interesting and amusing.
Some people could do with being a bit less sensitive to a spot of banter and others could do with toning down their version of "banter" just a little.
I, of course, am perfect. 😉
Ian Bothams grandson scored a try for wales u18's last night...a flanker too
That's brilliant Kryton,it's like your flounce thread all over again! Oh and I didn't post your next mutterings as they were modded,wonder why? You and Wrecker calling anybody chippy counts as 3 does it? I see there are as many maths books as pudding recipe books in your house. You are at it again,discussing the Marler incident does not make somebody bitter or chippy. Suggesting they are only doing it because of anti English sentiment belittles what he did. Sorry you can't understand that.
Flounce airlines you are cleared for takeoff!
Why do you think World Rugby dont agree?
World Rugby think the 6N got it wrong - so do I. I think Marler had a case to answer but if you 2nd guess every discinplinary result then no rugby will ever get played as we'll all be in court instead. The answer is to change the rules/system to ensure that things get done properly in future.
Thats irrelevant to anything. I'm sure Hogg apologised to Biggar but he still deserved a punishment. I'm not sure the Marler thing deserves a ban but it certainly deserves being highlighted as unacceptable behaviour..
I'd say that in any crime, the thoughts of the victim should be relevant and, at least, be considered when sentencing. The Marler thing has certainly been more highlighted due the disgraceful way it was swept under the carpet. Marler has got off scot free (no rascist slur intended) and it looks really bad. Most reasonable people can see it was unacceptable behaviour so although there's been a clear fudging of the process maybe it'll promote wider discussion of the issues and a change for the better.
There is a proscribed minimum for his action, that he admitted to, so that minimum should have been applied.
Big Gav's son is on the way through the ranks. It'll be interesting to have a Hastings to select.
Namastebuzz I agree its the blazers covering it all up this pisses me off. It clearly went further than just "Gypsy Boy". Had it been 20 years ago and Lee could have chinned the **** then it would all be less annoying.
Had it been 20 years ago and Lee could have chinned the **** then it would all be less annoying.
Indeed.....
No pudding for flouncers 😆
Come on people it's rugby we are talking about, no need to take it so seriously
Dunno,we can't have that creeping into our game,its what makes it better than many others. Anyway rugby; Salary's v Exeter...Bloody good of BT sport to have that on live isn't it 🙂 After a couple of months of the 6n it will be good to get back to what is a better game to watch.
Ian Bothams grandson scored a try for wales u18's last night.
It's OK. You can have him. We don't want him. 😉
Jim Mallinders son is on his way (pretty much there starting for Saints) too. He looks about 12 years old, until you see that he's 195cm and 108kg. He's also fast, has a good boot and good hands from what I've seen so far. One to watch.
Back to Warburton being anonymous.... Faletau is the epitome of only turning up for the internationals. Start of the season in particular, he had a cracker dropping two restarts, missing about 6 tackles and having the hands of Haskell. No way you'd pick him for Newport let alone Wales!
Oh, and yes you can have Underhill as he'll be outplayed by Cubby later*. Despite what you say a_a he isn't fat, he's just short for his height
* severely wishful thinking
Faletau was really, really poor when NG Dragons came to Sale, i was really surprised to see an International level player look so pedestrian.
To be fair, the rest of the Dragons were abysmal so its hard to shine in that environment i suppose.
Big Gav's son is on the way through the ranks. It'll be interesting to have a Hastings to select.
There can be only one!
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Not sure how I managed to mistake the Ospreys Scarlets game for a 19:00 KO 😳 How did the battle of the young(ish) 7's go? 🙂
Now, I used to play the odd game at Castle Road in my youth, and have nothing but happy memories of it, despite it being almost a swimming pool down the far left hand corner sometimes! A lovely ground really. Not glamourous, not shiny, just a great local club ground.
Seems that it may have been less enjoyable for Mike Brown.
[url= http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/sport/sportrugby/14353769.England_superstar_backs_boyhood_club_s_campaign_to_raise___500k/ ]From what I remember, the changing rooms, shall we say, had "character" and the shower room used to form the backdrop for [b]some of my worst nightmares[/b].......My best wishes for the launch of "All Change", good luck with your fundraising and I look forward to visiting the club in the future to see the new facilities and hopefully put [b]my shower nightmares[/b] to rest.[/url]
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Just watching the sarries/chiefs game on bt sport and seen another superb Waldrom try. Can nothing stop that man? Surely Billy has got to be worried about his slot? 🙂
Seems that it may have been less enjoyable for Mike Brown.From what I remember, the changing rooms, shall we say, had "character" and the shower room used to form the backdrop for some of my worst nightmares.......My best wishes for the launch of "All Change", good luck with your fundraising and I look forward to visiting the club in the future to see the new facilities and hopefully put my shower nightmares to rest.
He must have dropped the soap..................
Maybe that explains why he's so angry.
27-20 against Tigers, a very welcome double indeed.
The farce reawakens
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/03/27/joe-marler-also-insulted-in-gyspy-gate-row-while-new-video-alleg/
Now Connor O'Shea wades in with his view
If it's true, then someone else needs to be hauled in front of the beak too. Either crucify everyone guilty of the alleged offences, or none at all.
Are you saying you want people punished for
Posh, English and a four-letter word seems to be fine one way but not the other
If it's true, then someone else needs to be hauled in front of the beak too.
Thing is all we have is O'Shea's second hand comments which its hard to say if he has just made it up or someone said it and he is hardly impartial in all this as he could lose a key player for a few weeks.
dp
Are you saying you want people punished for
Posh, English and a four-letter word seems to be fine one way but not the other
No but if "gypsy boy" is being punished then this should too. People have referred to the race relations act(which I disagree with) and it covers nationality too, so it's exactly as bad.
Fair point a_a I doubt marler is bothered by it and has no intention of complaining.
get back to your caravan "gypsy boy"
The difference is that English **** is pwrtinent to the game. Had he said piss off back to the valleys welsh boy, no one would be bothered. Had some called Itoje a black boy people would be bothered, its not hard to understand is it?
I am struggling to get my head around the concept of Marler being posh 😆
27-20 against Tigers, a very welcome double indeed.
If we played only half as well away from home we would be top 5. That defending in the last few minutes on our 5m line was brutal and pretty heroic.
Everything is relative Pigface 🙂
As I said about 50 pages ago - do we REALLY think Marlers comments were the worst uttered in this years 6N? How about in a different language too?
Surfer, i was behind the sticks so about 10m from the action. You could almost feel the collisions going in. Stringer once again showed his class, pointing out what Tiggers were doing and moving round to watch it.
On the point of insults, Cockers calling his no.17 a 'f******g spastic' at the death - is that considered acceptable now?
So can anyone explain how Sam Warburton an oustanding international 7 can play 60 mins for the Blues and do nothing what so ever of note?
He's knackered
Ian Bothams grandson scored a try for wales u18's last night...a flanker too
That makes me feel old and grateful I'm not yet in the same situation (grandson) !
do we REALLY think Marlers comments were the worst uttered in this years 6N
Supposedly part of his argument will be Lee called him a Posh English C ... his response of "get back in your caravan" would have raised a smile from many I suspect
@Pigface, common insult to call any English person Posh especially if they are from the South, this includes Northerners calling us Southerners posh
I know we've been going round in circles but Marker and Lee where trading insults, the objective was to wind each other up. Gpysy is not a racial term as travellers can be Irish or Romanian/Romany. I'd imagine Lee is as embarrased as anyone about this, ot was dealt with man to man on the field. I'd love to hear some on field audio of an AB/Wallabies match, that won't be for the feignt hearted.
do we REALLY think Marlers comments were the worst uttered in this years 6N
Maybe maybe not but seeing as how only Marlers been recorded it is irrelevant.
So can anyone explain how Sam Warburton an oustanding international 7 can play 60 mins for the Blues and do nothing what so ever of note?He's knackered
It was his fourth game for Blues this season. I dont buy that.
we've been going round in circles but Marker and Lee where trading insults, the objective was to wind each other up.
Do you have any evidence that Lee said anything before Marler started? Or is this just another "Jambafact"?
Surfer, i was behind the sticks so about 10m from the action.
I think we stand next to each other every home game MD 🙂 I'll wear a red carnation.
Haha, i am the little bloke right at the front behind the right hand post (MsD gets very annoyed if we don't get that spot)
Warburton is either injured or fighting for form on returning from injury. I'm sure he'd love to be in a position of playing too much rugby! Let's not forget he had a bit of a bump to the head too.
True but a player of his class should be showing it even if only in flashes. Gethin is no where near what he once was and does tend to phone it in for the blues but he shows his class in loads of little things.
True, I can't remember the last time I watched Warburton in a club game and notice anything special. On the flip side you have players like Cuthburt who look positively World Class in the Pro 12 at times 🙂
@aa if you want to bring the jambafact thing here knock yourself out.
Warburton is tired, rwc prep over the summer, the tournament itself and straight into 6N with the injury and rehab stuff too. He needs a proper rest.
The Posh English C has been well reported and its been suggested it will be part of his defense. He apologised man to man and as I understand it the apology was accepted.
The Posh English C has been well reported
Indeed it has, but by whom and is there a shred of evidence it was said. O'Shea has raised it, although its hard to tell if thats what was said.
@aa who knows if there is any corroborating testimony / evidence, I imagine that may come our at any subsequent hearing
Is 'gypsy boy'worse than the time a certain frequent poster on this thread refered to a player as a 'cheating micker'?
"The posh English c has been well reported" Has it? I only heard about it in the O'Shea interview.
Ben Te'o supposedly gonna be fastracked into the England setup?
Haven't really seen much of him at Leinster although I was pretty impressed with him at the Rabbitohs - thought he had a lot more transferable skills than S- B-- ever did.
a_a's favourite player!
Sale have gone and bought a run and wriggler, wonder if they will stick him in the scrum 😆
Bit of gossip about Bath, Mike Ford has his little gang of favourite players and the rest are virtually ignored. He is generally very unpopular with staff and they can't wait for him to go. Bath forwards have zero motivation as Ford pretty much ignores them.
Te'o is useful but doubt he will be any great shakes at international level. He's a complete cheapshotting **** too with his big arm gaurd. If you have an injured arm that needs padding like that you wouldnt lead with it into contact.
Te'o is useful but doubt he will be any great shakes at international level
Hopefully EJ will take note of the total failure of the obsession the RFU have had with league converts playing centre and see some sense.
Barrie-Jon Mather, Henry Paul, Andy Farrell, Shontayne Hape, Joel Tomkins, S-- B------ etc
Bit of gossip about Bath, Mike Ford has his little gang of favourite players and the rest are virtually ignored. He is generally very unpopular with staff and they can't wait for him to go. Bath forwards have zero motivation as Ford pretty much ignores them.
Well if you watch them play - that sounds about right.
Te'o is useful but doubt he will be any great shakes at international level. He's a complete cheapshotting **** too with his big arm gaurd. If you have an injured arm that needs padding like that you wouldnt lead with it into contact.
Without personalising this to one player, I am with you on this one AA. This leading with the arm (padded or not) is a bad habit IMO. Even Tuilagi did it in slow mo to Jonathan Ross - although perhaps that was an exceptional circumstance. Capn Biter even made reference to it.
Ben Te'o supposedly gonna be fastracked into the England setup?
I flippin' hope not - it'll be S B all over again & demotivates other players pushing for that position.
Jonathan Ross - although perhaps that was an exceptional circumstance.
Yes as a chat show host he can smarmy 😆
Connaught's AJ McGinty signs for Sale. Steve Diamond calls him 'the best fly half in the Pro12' .
Ben Te'o looks like he almost wears a cast. I assume all protective coverings no longer need to be kitemarked/checked by the ref anymore. Actually scratch that,have you seen the strapping that is a la mode these days for anybody getting lifted? Game is turning into 'Merican football with more concussions.[IMG] 
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Ben Te'o looks like he almost wears a cast. I assume all protective coverings no longer need to be kitemarked/checked by the ref anymore
They should get rid of all pads/armour and only allow head protectors/scrum caps for those who are actually getting their ears squashed between two backsides.
So what is Lee's nickname in the Wales squad anyone and is it relevant to the case anywya?
“I think the whole thing is a load of nonsense and completely boring,” Haskell told the Daily Mail.“I don’t understand why everyone is still banging on about it.
“I think it is absolute rubbish the whole thing. I think it has been dealt with five times and don’t understand why everyone has to put their two penny in.
“For me, it’s just another trial by social media.
“I think Joe is a real good guy. I think if people heard the banter flying around in that Wales game or any other....
“He’s apologised, everyone else has. I never condone racism anywhere.
“But go and ask what Samson Lee’s nickname in the squad is.
“Ask that and come back.”
Well, if it's "gypsy boy" I'd say it's highly relevant!!
I suppose it could be argued that friends can call you things a stanger/competitor couldnt?
Really? So it would be ok for welsh non-gypsys to use racist terms but not English non-gypsys??
Heck - we don't need Gatts to have to apologise again do we?
I heard two black guys on site...I guess they were friends...calling one another "****". I was quite surprised the next morning when one of them threatened to throw me off the scaffolding after saying "Good morning ****." Thankfully the site manager accepted that it was just a bit of #topbantz but I've been asked to attend some diversity training.
Really? So it would be ok for welsh non-gypsys to use racist terms but not English non-gypsys??
No the difference is its OK for mates to call you all sorts of things but not peeple you dont like
How is it relevant and how am I clutching at straws, what is it you think I want?
I heard two black guys on site...I guess they were friends...calling one another "****". I was quite surprised the next morning when one of them threatened to throw me off the scaffolding after saying "Good morning ****." Thankfully the site manager accepted that it was just a bit of #topbantz but I've been asked to attend some diversity training.
What if it was 22 white guys calling the sole black guy "****"?
Not that it's comparable with abuse which isn't racist.
There's always a "what if" for some folk.