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Jeez give it a rest.
I'd like to see some bloody gut busting effort!!
Oh, sorry, so racial slurs and dirty punches are all OK now?
Samson will stick a ferret in his pants after the game!
Agree, AA. England better across the field so far. Apart from scrums, which remain a mystery to Joubert. Itoje has been impressive, that's for sure.
Yes, but we only see the replays of the important phases. If you went hunting in the footage, I bet you could find loads of cheap shots/neck rolls/hands in face. Not condoning it, but we need to be balanced. It's hardly the turning point in the game.
Watching in a tiny resort (Ugine) just outside Megeve. So far so good. Looks like I was wrong about Wales stepping up 😉
@aa did we go wide too early, straight off a lineout ?
Sssh...we've been here before
Brown skins Roberts!!! opps.... 😳
Could we have one of those overhead pics of the scrums with some arrows on the Welsh loose head please!! Japanese to showing overhead pics if the scrums. And you think Marler hinges??? To some extent, I think it's impossible not to, to a degree. Wales scrum need to play the ref. England got pinged at the first 2 scrums, but did what he asked them to.
Clear neck role by english player just before the pen ffs some consistancy please!!
England are dominant in the scrum. Marler has done nothing wrong. If Samson wants to complain he is free to, either to his mummy or to gatland. The disallowed try was watched on the replay about 6 times. No infringement. If there was, he'll be cited.
Good response by Wales. If they keep the ball and play this is far from over yet. You hAve to think if Wales open up though England won't go scoreless either.
Brave call going for the scrums.
This dominant england scrum looks a bit like its struggling. Been a pretty even contest thus far
He's got these scrum calls wrong, and wales will keep doing it as long as he does.
Great defence and no penalties !!!
Bllx spoke too soon
[quote=dantsw13 ]Brave call going for the scrums.
Indeed 🙂
At least he's consistent. Consistently wrong!
Gats had enough, new front row for wales.
The scrum random pen generator is turned up to max??
There's lovely for you. (Waiting for someone to call it a deliberate knock on! )
Well that's woken things up!!
George ****ing ford. 🙄
If ford had looked, bigger was flying out of the line, leaving a huge dogleg, but he didn't 🙄
Ah, the England dominant scrum!?
Yes. The one they got the last penalty for.
Hope it's not too serious for Captain Hovis.
What about the one they lost against the head?
Interpretation. I don't agree that they lost it.
That came off Nowell surely?
To be fair it was the same for the earlier ripped ball in the wales 22 which he called knock on.
OUCH!!!! Good to see Brown showing sympathy straight away though.
Bit harsh on Clarteris. You wouldnt want to roll onto a dislocated finger!
And the exact same thing happens to Itoge!!
Joubert is madly quick to blow for not rolling away. On both sides!
Itoje my MOTM so far, though. Glorious play from him.
Dreadful reffing! Hartley came straight through the middle!
Gouging cheating bastard!!!!
Jeez, give it a rest.
Sweet jesus christ nothing in that surely. Tweaked his nose naughty naughty
18 is a lucky boy.
So is Marler.
Nah, wrong colour shirt 😉
Otherwise we would be giffed to death (wasn't it cheater Brown who did something similar?) neither gouging really IMO
Edit it was the other hate figure 😉 Ashton
What for knocking a nose in a maul?
Jeez, give it a rest.
😀 His championship will be over. TMO bottles it.
Bloody hell
2 tries when you should be 14 men.
Great finish though!!
I've just remembered - I was in Japan when you beat us in the WC too!!
Thank **** for that.
Good fun!!!!
Phew 😉
so, that touch.......
His championship will be over. T
He's English anyway!!!!
Well played England. Much better team throughout. Itoje was great.
England nearly lost that through stupidity. Need to get rid of both Cole and Youngs, liabilities.
Thought we were going to throw it away at the end again!
I was jumping on my bed in the end - that was a great attempt by Wales!
I think England got drawn into an open game in the second half. 19-0 up, play conservative and we would have been comfortable.
Itoje was immense, Watson brilliant under the high ball. A lot to work on, but we are 4 & 0.
He's English anyway!!!!
LOL I was expecting to hear he must have learnt that at Exeter!
It was Frances wasn't it?
Well played England. Much better team throughout. Itoje was great.
Agreed.
I'd drop both Ford and Youngs personally.
2 tries when you should be 14 men.
This.
@olddog - nonsense, both will be part of the Gramd Slam winning side next week. Welsh 18 should have had a straight red, fingers to the eyes. Totally bottled by the TMO, "not enough angles" wtf
Jones will rightly give the side a rollicking for the last 5 mins but taking Ford off was an error. Hopefully he'll see first hand what a differemce it makes with him at 10
That was too close for comfort.
Thought Youngs was awful! I don't think Ford would have got charged down if he hadn't been reaching for a pass around his ankles. So many poor passes within the England team in general but when it's your scrum half (and largely from decent quick ball) in particular you're in trouble.
By that record, both teams should have been at 14. One for rather more of the game.
@tallie indeed, Ford needed a call to say pass or dummy. Priestland took a gamble and it paid off
I'd drop both Ford and Youngs personally.
I'd like to see Ford in a game where 50% of the passes aren't too high, low or arrive at the same time as the back row...
England nearly lost that through stupidity.
I think England visible tire after about 55-60. We see it often. Tipuric, Ken Owens and Priestland all upped the pace and England wobbled. Charteris should have started too.
Cole got up from that ruck holding his eyes. I think we will see a ban there.
North Try a big fwd pass, but a great end. When the Welsh backs attack at speed they look bloody good!
England looked shabby with the replacements on.
I had to turn that off with 4 to go. I was far too emotional for a game I don't really like that much!
Priestland took a gamble and it paid off
That was Biggar. But hey you can only name about 15 players I expect, although they are mostly world cup winners!!
Priestland took a gamble and it paid off
😆
Maybe England were tired, but poor decision making. Poor pass to 10, poor decision to kick Billy going for intercept giving centre the outside. Holding ball in maul too long. Not seeing the obvious pass to Watson.
Also I don't get the mentality of take the yellow to stop the try. when 18 points up just and 10 to go, just defend legally and run down the clock.
This England team is starting to look interesting. France away is a big game, but win or lose, it's the summer tour to Australia a want to see.
Watching England is too stressful for me! I should just enjoy the win and the real positives.
I suppose the other obvious question is why Wales can't at least attempt to play the way they played in the last 20 for a full 80?
I know England tired and ultimately ended up with 14 men but to me Wales always look much more dangerous when they throw it around instead of playing a one dimensional kicking game.
Priestland, Tipuric and Owens. Plus england ran out of puff
Ok I just ran that last tackle on North through frame by frame. He got the pass away before his knee hit the ground. Would his support have gone clean through without Joubert's whistle? Who knows? But the Welsh would have retained the ball at least.
Joubert strikes again.
On the basis of the last 10 minutes Wales should have won. Based on the other 70 - England.
A good experienced team with 15 men
A good inexperienced team with 14 men
Must have been particularly fun for a neutral
And who won the back row battle - perhaps the lack of stupid penalties (Haskell's neck roll apart) gives the answer??
Tallie - the space isn't there early in the game. You have to earn the right to play that way late on.
Must have been particularly fun for a neutral
Yes. Apart from Joubert.
[quote=igm said]Must have been particularly fun for a neutral
Yes. Apart from Joubert.
+1, though interesting more than fun.
Anyone else notice that they replaced robshaw with a prop? He must have been shattered, he played very well indeed today. Watson, Brown, Kruis all did well too. Nowell was getting pulled all around defensively at the end, hence North getting joy where he wasn't getting any earlier on. Mako was out there making cover tackles!
Enforced substitute, Wrecker