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This isn't going to end well for England, I fear.
Should have been yellow for Hooper, mind you. Citing?
No answer to the back row,or the speed of deed of second phase ball. I had expected England to up their game against a SH team,either they haven't or OZ are better than we thought.
Have England ever come back from a 14 point deficit at half time?
England lucky not to be 20+ down...?
No that's unfair. The scoreline is a reflection of the game. Yes Hooper should be cited for deliberate dangerous play, and yes we are too slow and/or out of position in defence. And it'll get worse as we tire.
We need two tries and a pen to zero to win. Can't see it happening.
Tbh - England aren't far off the pace. A couple of knock-ons in crucial areas, should have taken 3 in the first minute, a pen advantage where Poite gave adv-over with no real advantage, and a VERY close call on the fwd pass.10-9would look a lot different.
It's a long way from here though.
Scotland a decent team don't make laugh, they defend and attack like a school team. Everything is static you can't defend at international level by standing still. And then in attack, again no speed everything done standing still. Bottom of 6 nations.
My crytsal ball is clearing, the future is clear. As it has been for a long while. SL is checking the classifieds for a new job.
It isn't just SL at fault. Farrell must shoulder some as well, not to mention the players.
And now here we are with Barritt at 13 again and Jonathan Joseph playing wing.
Ffs.
Just crap.
Getting killed at the breakdown.
Is it too late to call up Steffon Armitage?
Passing been poor, going astray or at best forcing the receiver to check and actively catch it. Nervy, and I suspect rather than come back we'll lose by even more.
Dragon; trolling rugby threads after his 10 special brews on a Sat night near you.
Yep, the father. Unlike Edwards with Wales, he seems to have brought poor play from league. None of the defensive nous, just dull.
Marler getting torn a new one, finally. Scrum straight, Joe.
Penalty. We may as well go for line outs now, nothing to lose.
Kane Douglas has a headband over his eyes. No wonder he couldn't see Robshaw didn't have the ball.
High and off the ball from Aus 4 there.
I know bugger all about rugby but the result is going the way I expected it to....
The same hype as with the England footy team without delivery of the results.
Not over yet
Thats just cruel - giving them hope. 😉
Bit of a momentum shift......
Burgess to score the winning try and make everyone forget the last 2000 posts 😉
Oh,oh...
yes whilst you are having that fantasy can we have levitating mountain bikes?
Jonv, was just thinking that!
I wish we played properly in the first half.
yes whilst you are having that fantasy can we have levitating mountain bikes?
It's all been fixed. Jivebunny's lizards worked it out last year.
Burgess a tackling liability.
And Farrell made no attempt to use the arms.
Yellow? Game over.
End of game?
Lucky not to have two yellows, and Poite didn't even want to give one.
Kind of saw the card coming. Game over! Harsh as it was an OZ dummy runner.
Edit; twickers; two weeks in the trot with the boo's, you stay classy!
You edited, CFH! 😆
Nice booing of the kicker. Classy.
Ninja edit skillz.
How was that high tackle not at least a yellow? To go with the other one.
Still it wastes a bit of time before match of the day comes on.
Oh dear. Not looking forward to the welsh scrum v aus.
So, who's gonna be the next England coach then? 😉
Coffin lid slams shut.
You lot need an open side...And some props.
So, who's gonna be the next England coach then?
AA?
Rub it in why don't you.
They'll be dancing in the streets of pretty much everywhere outside of England tonight. 😉
Time for a major clearout in England.
Playing farrell should never had happened. And most of the team haven't turned up for the matches. SL to go. AF should hold a fair bit due to the nepotism.
England just didn't play well enough at all.
Aus should make it a long way off not the final surely
Damn.
Oh FFS, what a ****ing disaster England have been. Sorry England fans - I'd have liked them to stay in the tournament. They just weren't good enough. No plastique gloat boating from me. One assumes Lancaster is writing his resignation letter.
that's it. rugby is shite. I'm going back to liking football.
Like I said at half time... 20 innit
Schadenfreude is a beautiful word 😀
england miss a Martin Johnson, that is the difference IMO
The whole seeding system needs looking at..i can say that now
Easy Piggie, stay classy dude.
I reckon that England were very lucky with the ref tonight. Before now he's carded the Welsh front row for collapsing twice - tonight he allowed Marler alone three collapses and six penalties in total against the English scrum. No yellow, Mr Poite? 🙄 And why was Coles not even talked to after taking Foley off the ball, as the TMO said. Foley was quite capable of catching that ball, and what are the chances of Australia scoring against a disorganised English defence? But he didn't even look at Coles. Yet another 🙄 for Poite the twit.
The commentators tonight were appallingly bad.
At least the footballers were still in it to the last group game of the world cup.
Outplayed, outcoached, outthought and outclassed.
that's it. rugby is shite. I'm going back to liking football
Prepared to be disappointed...
Looks like Australia have found a scrum again too, their only real weakness over the last few years.
wanmankylung - MemberHow was that high tackle not at least a yellow? To go with the other one.
You could hear the ref wasn't buying it either, kept going back to the video official and asking questions, was quite funny. "What's your recommendation." "Penalty kick." "AND?" "Er, yellow card?" "OK"
Didn't see the whole match but I thought England were perfectly OK, no shame in being beaten by a better side.
I can't understand anyone who really thought England had a chance.
The Aussies just won the Rugby Championship, beating the Boks from 10pts down, thrashing the Argies then doing the ABs. OK they lost the Bledisloe rematch but they'd changed their side to conceal some of their plans. They knew their best XV and had a coherent game plan, led by a coach who's won the Heineken and the Top14.
England have won nothing. Didn't know their best 15 or 30 or 45. Had no game plan and were led by a PE teacher with no top flight coaching sudccess.
Go figure.....
Loving the studio discussion, entirely about England. You'd swear that there wasn't another team on the pitch to beat them.
Lancaster has got most of the big calls wrong - can't see any progress in his tenure to be honest and I'm not sure he knows his best side or how he wants his team to play. Won't be his side for long though - p45 time.
Send Mike Bown out to the press, please, pretty please.....dont make me beg...
Will the rfu blazers accept they need a foreign coach?
Damn, it's Robshaw not Mr Sulk.
Poor reaction from Farrell and robshaw to the card IMO. Pleased Wales are through but it feels a bit wrong to go through like this, as aa said, our scrum is going to get pumped 🙁
That was one of the best Oz performances ever.
Best I can remember watching, anyway. Load of credit due to their players and coaching team.
No shame in losing to that performance, it was class.
I never expected Wales to go thru' presuming second who do we play?
You could hear the ref wasn't buying it either, kept going back to the video official and asking questions, was quite funny. "What's your recommendation." "Penalty kick." "AND?" "Er, yellow card?" "OK"
that bit was a bit of a joke for me. there seemed to something of a language barrier. are they only allowed to communicate in sentences of less than 5 words?
having the stop-start game as it is now with the TMO and all the camera angles just shows how farcical the rules of rugby are. can't they make it simpler? or at least the players more intelligent?
SA
Wilko is talking about an amazING group of players and coaches. Which are those? Also saying it came too soon, well they've had 4 years, if they'd gone about it properly that's quite a long time.
then NZ prob
So does anyone have a clue how good or bad Lancaster is as a coach? He's been handicapped by having Farrell and the nepotism involved in that, and then the Burgess affair. Has he been allowed to select his own staff or have they been imposed on him? Ditto, team selection?
I like Wilkinson, him and Shane have been bright lights in a shower of ITV shit.
then OZ again in the final
or Ireland 😉
SA then NZ...easy. who do we playvinbthe final 😉
Be fair.
England, Wales and Australia are all pretty decent outfits, and one of them had to go out.
As a Scot, I wouldn't have fancied my chances in that group (and we may yet join the Englanders with our team watching the second round from the bar).
Well done Wales & Australia, commiserations England. I think Jonny Wilkinson put it well - England are building a good team, it's just not there yet; possibly not the time to rip it all up and start again.
just shows how farcical the rules of rugby are. can't they make it simpler?
The rules are simple, that was two yellow cards. Poite didn't want to give them.
SA then NZ...easy. who do we playvinbthe final
😆
AA - second place play SA QF then NZ semi.
The rules are simple, that was two yellow cards. Poite didn't want to give them.
yeah, not those decisions. the comment was more in general.
Inigomontoya, it's weird that you've just popped up. I've got to the point in the book where you, Dread Pirate Roberts and Fezzik escape with Buttercup. Glad to see you made it ok. 😆
In the Aussie world cup, many Irish, Scottish and Welsh supporters backed England as the tournament progressed.
So, England fans, don't mope around! Support Wales or Ireland from now on! Whoever gets furthest shall be your team as well!
(Sorry, Scotland. Just can't see it! ;- ) )