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Biggar has been twitching like that for years
Channelling my inner Bogan for tonight 😆
duckman - Member
Scotland picked a side with damage limitation in mind. Heaviest team they could have picked,with the exception of Ford.I get what Cotter is doing, he is keeping an eye on the Samoa game,and if you had offered me the way Scotland have played and two bonus points,I would have bitten your hand off...But...I would love to have seen them go for it against SA.
Probably sheer optimism, but I think Scotland can cause an upset, good confidence, and despite the papers, it doesn't seem Scotland have really picked a 'b-team.' Going to be a good afternoon of rugby!
Really quite nervous - my head says England are going out of the World Cup but my heart wants to believe we can do it...
If we win we're guaranteed to go through aren't we, assuming a bonus point win against Uruguay?
If we win we're guaranteed to go through aren't we
Pretty much from what I can make out.
However...
Were it to be a try fest, and Australia scored four, losing by less than seven points, they'd both be on 11 points. If England didn't manage a bonus point victory against Uruguay, and Australia did against Wales, that would put Australia through. If they both got BP wins, England would go through on the result between them. 😀
So, yeah, pretty much, win this one, and England are through.
Which is the result I'm hoping for, as it would make the Australia - Wales game (thankfully, not in the StagNHennium) mahoosive.
But...I would love to have seen them go for it against SA.
They could have - a win over SA and they'd be through, rendering the Samoa game irrelevant.
I can see what Cotter's doing and it doesn't stink like the Hadden 2nd XV against the ABs at a packed Murrayfield in the 2007 RWC did.
Yup what @dd says, if England win tonight (big if now as the pressure is really on) the Wales v Australia match becomes a knock out as England will get the bonus point win over Uruguay.
Carter is worth his spot in the AB side but he's not the player he was. He'll still be sensational in Top 14 as its a different style of game than played in NZ. Dare I say it JW was outstanding for Toulon and made pretty much all the othe 10's in Europe look quite ordinary (Giteau was closest to him) but that was at least due to resting during the international breaks and a different level of intensity even in matches like Heineken cup.
Jeez. The amount of pressure on those players, interpreted via the constant FB posts, news etc must be enormous.
England are either going to steamroll Aus or lose as quivering wrecks as a result of it.
England are either going to steamroll Aus or lose as quivering wrecks as a result of it.
Nah, scrape by and brush the problems under the rug is more likely
Surely the players can't trust the coaching staff,lancaster seems pretty clueless.England will lose.
You need to go with toys19's predictions, I said we would lose to Wales, I was correct, and we are going to get properly rinsed by the Wallabies tonight. I am so sure that I am prepared to snog a_a if we win. (for him thats a win win)
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I'm kind of a combination of both..
Post a pic and I'll rate you out of 10
Oh, most definitely bookmarked. C'MON ENGERLAND, BEAT THOSE 'ORRIBLE OZZIES..... 😆I am so sure that I am prepared to snog a_a if we win. (for him thats a win win)
#strangest
I think england need a bp win to be certain? Too many permutations otherwise.
Wales need Aus to win or draw or England to win by lots. But mostly we Aus to win.
Pressure?? You are doing what you want to do, in the World Cup and in great stadia. What's not to like? This is what pro sport is all about. If that is not welcome, then the guys are in the wrong job. They should be relsishing the opportunity.
Plus cosseted away at Pennyhill Path is hardly a hardship - although the ice wall next to the steam rooms is quite an experience!
Cmon England, do the business and then let the others get sweaty next week. Either way going to be a fun evening! Food and drink ready......
Come on Japan!!
GET IN!!!!!!!@
I was thinking that no one else was watching this game
Japan are so technically brilliant at the breakdown its incredible.
Its an amazing game, Japan are an excellent advert for the sport of Rugby, and probably the true hearts & minds winners of the RWC.
England could be coached by Eddie Jones and Borthwick!
Well Scotland South Africa just became very interesting for the Japanese perhaps?
I can't calculate who can and can't go through now in that group.
Are SA out if they don't win today?
(I'm assuming Japan win now)
England could be coached by Eddie Jones and Borthwick!
That would be nice.
But the Japanese in my experience with work are very technically precise, this appears to be translated on the pitch as simple rugby done brilliantly.
This is a brilliant match, Japan are a great surprise and a treat for the whole RWC.
igm - Member
Well Scotland South Africa just became very interesting for the Japanese perhaps?
Not really,Japan need us to leak 70 points in the next two games.I suspect Japan have just put us through,we will lose to SA,but will beat that Samoa team.
Why does "The Beast" do a camp little jump every time he catches the ball? 😆
Think that try was a bit generous -was is not double movement?
Double? And the rest!
Presumably it wasn't grounded before being grounded over the line (caveat - I only saw a replay out the corner of my eye)
It was always going to be given but I'd feel hard done by if Scottish.
Bit of Habanna play acting worth a penalty yet again too 🙄
Normally think Nigel Owens is a good ref, but think he is missing a few infringements from s.a 😕
Normally think Nigel Owens is a good ref, but think he is missing a few infringements from s.a
It does look that way. Lots of S. Africans off their feet at the breakdown and lots of high hits/ no arms largely going unpuished
Having said that 😆
Fvcks sake 🙁
Hope Scotland can step it up in the second half like the other matches
When you watch how physical the sarfricans are it makes the Japan result even more amazing.
I know it's because we are on the receiving end of excellent maul play by SA but how are you meant to defend this-from a viewing point of view it is dull & trying to explain the rules of it to people gives me a headache
SA are getting some generous decisions from the officials but, by God, Scotland are useless. Do they think they can win by running one-up at SA?
Nige seems v tolerant of tackles around the neck?
Hogg is a tit
Hogg, what a little ****.
Another one - JP P on Weir right in front of Owens.
The sarfricans applauding Laidlaw yellow, classless oafs
Scotland need to start playing faster ball. Just desperately hoping they get a loosing bonus point
Captain Sam sticks another pin in his Rolland doll!!
That was a red, according to the laws,like!
Ref is having a shocker.
A stone cold yellow for sure
Completely bizarre decision... There's no other sport where refs feel they have the right to overrule the laws if they feel like it is there?
Atrocious from the ref, but atrocious from Scotland too, so many times they've had numbers wide and gone straight slowly. Same old story, they build up our hopes with a bit of exciting play and then it goes to pot
Ah well, down to the Samoa game next week, as expected. Go England! Stick one on for the NH. ( yes, I do mean that!) We will beat Samoa, and that was always the game, but after such a terrible 6n the improvement in our rugby has left me feeling really flat about this result. What if he had played the best xv from the start,etc...
The whole ref thing is interpretation isn't it. Gives you loads to talk about 😆
One gets the feeling a decent side could turn that SA team over.
Am torn.
I desperately want Wales to qualify. So an Australian win would be good.
But......I really want to see Australia lose!
What like Japan?
I think Scotland are a decent team. Everyone expects to beat SA all of a sudden just because of one (albeit magnificent) statistical anomaly. I have a feeling that the boks will still prove a hard task for some top teams.
Scotland will beat Samoa and convincingly (but if any of them hurts Lam or Perenise, I'm putting their ****ing windows through!)
Makes you wonder what would have happened if Japan had been fresh playing against Scotland last week?
The tip tackle was interesting because it looked to me as if the Scottish player tried to dive once he felt himself being lifted. In other words he went for a penalty. Certainly it didn't look like a normal tip tackle, and I think that's why Nige struggled with it.
So, the guy who was up in the air dived?
The guy in the air rolled so he didnt land on his head.
The tip tackle was interesting because it looked to me as if the Scottish player tried to dive once he felt himself being lifted. In other words he went for a penalty. Certainly it didn't look like a normal tip tackle, and I think that's why Nige struggled with it.
I think it was more self preservation. I think the thing is the whole thing before this wc was they were talking about player safety being paramount and being rigorously reffed, while it wasn't a malicious tackle it was reckless, it was a tip tackle so it should have been a yellow.
You doing Hereford tomorrow Jon?
No, not going up tomorrow. Got transport and everything but got other stuff to do, which I only found out about an hour ago, so I'm sulking. Probably why I'm being grumpy about players doing stupid things in tackles. 😉
I was watching the tackler. You could see him realise what was happening then put his arm under the guys waist to try and hold him rather than drop him.
Not that this necessarily has any bearing on the sanction of course.
Pieterson wasnt it? He still lifted the guy, then thought oh **** and tried to get him down ok but the guy being tackled did a good job of landing on his back.
Pietersen is a classy and clean act, the ref made the right decision.
Bad luck Jon, yeah the grumpiness makes sense now 😆
Huge Welsh flag in a window near my kids' school has been replaced with an equally huge Australian flag.
Come on Wallabies! 😉
As demonstrated by Japan.One gets the feeling a decent side could turn that SA team over.
Nowhere showing the game, so am in hotel room with cold beer. And a jumpy online feed.
Cant see england running the legs off aus
What's the rule on boring in? I ask as the commentator was slevering about how there was nothing wrong with the way England scrummage.
Well, that's us out then.
Cant see england running the legs off aus
Nope . Bunch of fat old ****ers ...
[quote=Kryton57 ]Well, that's us out then.
Yeah scotland were never going to be in final
oh by "us" you mean engerland
Aus TH prop doing a job on marler. He is stepping in, making marler look like he is hinging.
Its weird wanting the aussies to win,but that's only because I can't see us beating them if England do,if these two teams weren't in the same group as Wales I would be happy to watch the aussies get a kicking,but that's not going to happen tonight.
First host nation to not make it out of the group.
Can't say that England deserve to at the moment
England lucky not to be 20+ down...?
Don't panic, teams can come back in the 2nd 1/2 at Twickenham to win. Might have happened recently.
Tic tacs all wrong surely. Aus love it fast and loose. They play the all blacks all the time and they are much better than the english backs. Englands backrow are awol due to the way england are playing.