[Closed] 2015-16 rugby, world cup year

Just wondering how the green machine will engineer the forthcoming massive disappointment with such a strong squad.

They'll be penalized off the pitch for flopping onto rucks from the side and for choke tackling in mauls. 🙂

Whereas Wales will be hammered by the new directive for chop tackles. (It's almost like it was aimed at stopping the Welsh backrow... )

new directive for chop tackles

I haven't seen anything new???? I think the refs were reminded about no arm tackles of all kinds but I haven't seen anything that particularly disadvantages Lydiate and co.

The commentators on Scrum V last week were talking about it being a directive. Any low tackle with no arms is seen as dangerous and will be carded, is the gist. TMOs were involved several times.

Although I've just spent a while looking through the stuff I can find about this season's directives and can find nothing about chop tackles, only no-arm tackles, as you say Dan.

dd ,
Healy should get 20-30 mins as a first run out, this week, then 50-60 against a tougher Romanian scrum to up the fitness next.
McGrath's plenty good enough for the first three games but they'll need both fit and on form against the French and how they use their bench.
Bit concerned that Fitz is covering the injured Henshaw's 12 spot when that was exactly what Cave was picked to do. Maybe it's more than one game and Cave's down for the next match?

Just wondering how the green machine will engineer the forthcoming massive disappointment with such a strong squad.

France.
Their pack , and bench, looked stronger than England's this summer.
Backs are more than useful and bigger than Ireland's too.
And they look like they're gonna be a lot more organised than at any point since their last world cup final.

But... after the massive disappointment of losing the last group game, finishing second in the Pool, and having to face the all blacks in the next round, green machine to beat NZ , then SA , then get a bit of revenge on the French in the final.

Whereas Wales will be hammered by the new directive for chop tackles. (It's almost like it was aimed at stopping the Welsh backrow... )

Or Joubert reviews the last game he reffed Wales in and how much they got away with not letting go of players at the breakdown, then pings them off the park for it in the OZ game when it really matters. Ironically. 😉

Chop tackles and the neck roll are both being targeted,and this will be rolled out next year as well.

r Joubert reviews the last game he reffed Wales in and how much they got away with not letting go of players at the breakdow

I love how the irish do irony so well.

Healy should get 20-30 mins as a first run out, this week, then 50-60 against a tougher Romanian scrum to up the fitness next.
McGrath's plenty good enough for the first three games but they'll need both fit and on form against the French and how they use their bench.

Yeah, I agree...I'd assumed Healey would get game time in each of them.

France

Yep. 🙂

anagallis_arvensis - Member
r Joubert reviews the last game he reffed Wales in and how much they got away with not letting go of players at the breakdow
I love how the irish do irony so well.

I didn't read that as irony, or anyhing like that. I read it as highlighting refereeing inconsistencies. The only teams who don't hang on in the breakdown, if they can get away with it, are ITM cup teams,because they want to play at pace and the USA, because they are so naive. 😀

I saw the 😉 at the end.

Chop tackles and the neck roll are both being targeted,and this will be rolled out next year as well.

A "chop tackle" in this sense isn't a Lydiate style tackle though is it? It is more the rolling in to a ball and turning the shoulder and back in to the opponents knees isn't it? More a prop at close quarters tackling tactic that they are trying to clamp down on????

Dan...Speaking to a high up ref about it last night, it is an obvious no arms/afterthought of arms head on at knee height. They are working on the idea that tackling is important,but it is like the no arms,high smash,that was only outlawed in the late 90's. Strictly speaking a tackler should be binding to the person they are hitting.Oh,and despite it coming out in the media this week; this was all made clear in April,even the Dublin stranglers will surely have gone back to the drawing board in camp. It

Thanks Duckman, that's how I understood it (even if I might not have explained it so well 😀 )

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even the Dublin stranglers

😆 😆

The second one in those I have sympathy for,esp if it is two yards out. It is natural for players to adopt a three point stance bang on the offside line close to their own line. The first one would be a rest all day long,he hits back first!

So a few things I hadn't realized ahead on tonight's match...
- England to play in red
- Fiji somehow manage to have fewer caps than England!

Fiji somehow manage to have fewer caps than England!

I think that's partly because Fiji don't get to play that many games and, when they do, a lot of their players aren't made available.

I noticed the team named by the ABs against Argentina has 1,013 Test caps and a further 316 on the bench.

That's a lot......

Excited for the first match tonight. Will be a tough contest.

even the Dublin stranglers

Is that a tribute act? Golden Black stuff?

So who is going to win. I'm going with the Aussies. And USA cause I got them in the work sweep.

Melon; NZ to win all day long, French to be the suprise package. Looking forward to tonight...well from 8pm on!

Ian Robertson is a moron a complete and utter moron, today he said Australia will have a very good chance as they beat New Zealand comprehensively at home earlier this year, omitting to mention that the All Blacks battered them a week later. He said england must be favourites with home advantage and the All Blacks are an ageing team ready for the taking.

I am no rugby expert an enthusiastic amateur per say but that cretinous jizz gargler is really getting on my wick.

cretinous jizz gargler

Another 😆

NZ massive favourites. They are not unbeatable but if England are to win it they'll have to beat all of Australia, NZ and South Africa which would be unprecedented, 2 or 3 yes but all 3. Ireland won't make it past the semi at best and I have a feeling France will beat them in the group. I'm brushing up my "Marseilles" for that match, need to nail the middle verse.

Melon; NZ to win all day long, French to be the surprise package.

Melon; NZ to win all day long, Argentina to be the surprise package for me

Looking forward to tonight obviously, but also to the Irish pack winding up Cudmore tomorrow and Wales on Sunday. Maybe Morgan could end up being a revelation against a tired opposition on 50/60 mins 😉 Maybe not 😆

I am also really looking forward to watching the "smaller" teams we don't generally see a lot of like the Japan and some big ol' Samoan tackles. Is Paul Williams still playing? His carded last man [url= http://www.rugbydump.com/2011/09/2104/paul-williams-yellow-carded-for-huge-hit-on-theuns-kotze ]tackle at the last RWC[/url] was one of the best bits if timing I can remember (shame the referee didn't agree!)

Think I already mentioned it but I reckon Tonga v Georgia tomorrow in Kingsholm (where I'm going) will be a proper smash-fest. Really looking forward to it.

Saw the Georgians last week and they had some monsters in the pack 😆

The Japanese didn't want to get involved in any biff but I can see the Tongans happy to indulge them.

DD get there a bit early due to the body searches, unless you like queueing.

For all the posters on here going to Glaws.. I hereby confer Scottish citizenship on you for the duration of the group matches.However,if you use the sudden massive increase in your looks and ability to charm the other sex,then it may be recinded.

My money would be on a NZ/Aus final - hopefully with the All Blacks winning in style.

@namaste I think for that to happen Aus would have to finish second in the group

I hate 'World in Union' and that squealing woman has made me detest it even more! Play it to the Fijians, they won't be able to concentrate on rugby.

I think for that to happen Aus would have to finish second in the group

Yeah I know but it could happen....

Only just realised it's on ITV. Grrrrrrrrr 😥

So far so cringeworthy!

Opening ceremonies are ALWAYS shit.

Just get on with it...!

She's hot though.

Jonno!!!

Good to see Big John Hayes again, though!

ust switched the telly on to see the match build up. WT actual F is going on?

and Ibanez

this is truly dire.............

Harry's just come from the pub down the road by the look of things...

I'm offended that **** hasnt shaved

his head.................true egg in nest there

What happened in 2003? I'm not sure they've mentioned it? 😆

I'm offended that **** hasnt shaved

At least he did his tie up properly, and I bet you he sings God save our gracious granny....

😉

I need subtitles. What's the foreign bloke saying?

indeed I struggled to understand that royal fellow

Where's James Bond? He always appears at these things. Is his helicopter delayed?

At least he did his tie up properly, and I bet you he sings God save our gracious granny....

Totally off topic but I love Corbyn aimply because I have a role model in the national press who like me is only wearing a suit because he has to abd doesnt care that the jacket and trousers dont either fit or match!

Dan Cole is going to be sent to the Tower for putting on a home made wig and pretending to be Prince Harry. Good effort.

That squealing woman? Man I'd like to make her squeal!
Anyway back to the rugby...

FFS someone get a box for Jason Robinson to stand on.

How do the studio guests put up with such moronic questions from Inverdale?

"How important is Tom Youngs to England?" "Well, he's the hooker, John..."

"Martin Johnson was such a talismanic figure and led England from the front. What do you think his favourite colour was?" 😆

I need subtitles. What's the foreign bloke saying?

I'm sure AA can translate, probably moaning about the cost of getting home over the bridge.

That's some auto correct error a_a 😀
Edit - well it was until the post got deleted

Why does NADOLO seem to have an invisible N in his name according to the people in the studio? Nadolo you idiots, not NaNdolo. He doesn't sell chicken.

Fiji have a population of less than 1m.....this should be a stroll in the park!

😉

Ps I particularly enjoyed the role call of rugby legends from Namibia, Rumania etc

Bien installlé Sounds like warching on Fremch TV is a bonus

Some Burgundian subtlety and sophistication, don't think ee'll see much of that on the field tonight

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Mexico played Jamaica in the qualifiers? What a game to go to!

I'm offended that **** hasnt shaved

1st crooked scrum feed of the tournament after 2 minutes. 🙄

Sorry my post got deleted mods. It was an expression of whatcInverdale said during was it the tennis or horse racing? I'd post a link to ewetube but people might get offended!

And the second after 4 minutes. Ffs what's the point in telling refs to watch out for these things when they instantly ignore it?

Nigel Owens was on the BBC this week explaining that if any part of the ball is on the centre line when the ball touches the ground in the scrum, they count that as straight. Even if they do that it's still crooked in my book.

Home adv paying

Did Jonny May win the World Cup again?

They really are looking like world beaters.

Well they beat your lot.

Ooooooh...sensitive.

Jesus christ if all the refs and tmo's follow this lead the all blacks may as well go home now!

Fiji wouldn't have been penalised for no arms clearing the ruck if the ref had done his job and penalised Robshaw for hands in the ruck.

Start engraving the trophy now.

Well, isn't this going well so far!

Brliant hands!

Indeed. And the ref was stood right in front of the ruck so it gets a bit annoying to use the tmo so frequently for things which were deemed fine initially

Jesus christ if all the refs and tmo's follow this lead the all blacks may as well go home now!

I'm sure these new rules will be less tough by then...

Start engraving the trophy now.

Can we not just repeatedly stab Inverdale with a skewer for a couple of weeks first?

Can we not just repeatedly stab Inverdale with a skewer for a couple of weeks first?

I do believe you'll be at the end of a very, very long queue there

I hear O'Flashearty has a very long skewer. 🙂

Score of the tournament!!

😆

Oh gutted! 🙁