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Wales seem to have run out of ideas. But at least they have some points at long last.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:41 pm
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**** me how was that a pen ireland?


 
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What worries me is that I can't see Wales coming back from this. I am having slight deja vu from last year 😥


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:46 pm
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kock on by ireland wales adv over straight away when not even over the gainline then wales knock on and ireland kick it out but this time adv not over


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:47 pm
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If you were a newbie to watching rugby - how would the constant scrum penalties appear? Doesn't make for a good spectacle.

I will concede that Sexton is MUCH better than Preistland!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:49 pm
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Need to get hook on priestland throwing away the chances and the game needs a change


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:50 pm
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Happy now AA!!! Swings and roundabouts.....


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:51 pm
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As I said earlier Priestland needs to come off, what he's doing isn't working. Hook on quick


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:52 pm
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Priestland is no way the problem, the other option is hook and he certainly isnt the answer


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:57 pm
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beard alert 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 3:59 pm
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I'm not sure Wales have an answer no matter who they substitute!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:00 pm
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Sexton. Top player today.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:04 pm
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Wales were shit. Ireland weren't.

That's all there is to say, really.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:05 pm
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POM is going to cry if Spikey pushes him again I think.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:07 pm
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Wales were shit. Ireland weren't.

That's all there is to say, really.


indeed


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:08 pm
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Why? He's played very well, spikey hasn't (and I am normally a spikey fan).

And now spikey being a fool!! as butler said, "it's too late"


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:10 pm
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Time to crack open the beer.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:11 pm
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Can't argue with CFH in his analysis of a tired uninspiring Welsh team. Much as it grieves me to write that!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:13 pm
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Wales playing like England 🙂


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:13 pm
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Oh FFS well done Ireland that is a spanking, was Priestland as useless as I have heard.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:13 pm
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That was a thrashing!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:14 pm
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Well played Ireland.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:14 pm
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I thought Spikey was one of wales only reasonable players, any momentum came through him.
Well played Ireland


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:14 pm
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Yep, well played Ireland. Wales were just woeful.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:15 pm
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Ireland were very good. Every single player dominated his opposite number in a red shirt. Schmit got the tactics spot on and Ireland were better in every single aspect of the game.

Wales were poor and maybe all the talk of grudges in the build up showed in their cynical petulant approach.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:16 pm
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Every single player dominated his opposite number in a red shirt. Schmit got the tactics spot on and Ireland were better in every single aspect of the game.

a good team would have put at least 30-40 on wales today, Ireland had nothing behind the magnificent front 10.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:20 pm
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was Priestland as useless as I have heard.

some good kicks from hand and did well with the shite he was served up. It was lost in the lineout and the huge amount of ball wales dropped. The ref wasnt exactly helpful either.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:23 pm
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Scoreline flattered Wales tbh.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:24 pm
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26 is close enough to 30 for me. Sure it wasn't pretty but as a prop the sight of a 20 metre maul does the heart good. And sure our centres are past it. 😉


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:25 pm
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DD 😉

The "little man" Darcy was the best centre on the field today.

Outside 10, only Cuthbert stood man2man. 1/2p was ok and v good under the ball as always, but Kearney outshone him too.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:30 pm
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so next up France... great

depresing thing is the pack cannot really change, bring in Tipuric for Lydiate and pray


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:31 pm
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Gatland has no Plan B. Wales were toothless and witless.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:34 pm
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And sure our centres are past it.

they are, with all that ball they created nothing, take nothing away from a great win but its going to be a big issue going forward. Did Darcy or Bod make a break?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:35 pm
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I think BOD broke Scott Williams...


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:36 pm
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Gatland has no Plan B.

you can have as many plans as you like but if you lose lineouts, drop balls and give away pens every 2 mins its unlikely to make a difference. On the few occasions wales kept hold of the ball and didnt turn over or drop the ball they looked quite good.
Ian Evans presence in the middle of the lineout and in the mauls was missed the big daft ****. Coombs is a part time 5 or 6 and too lightweight.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:38 pm
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I thought Ireland outsmarted Wales. Given the conditions and how they knew Wales want to play they just stopped them doing anything. As above Wales couldn't find a new plan.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:38 pm
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I think BOD broke Scott Williams...

which was pretty much his only contribution, Darcy was tidy but nothing great


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:39 pm
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Given the conditions and how they knew Wales want to play they just stopped them doing anything.

Did they know wales would give away pens like a peado gives away worthers originals


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:42 pm
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On the few occasions wales kept hold of the ball and didnt turn over or drop the ball they looked quite good.

Please define "few". I don't remember more than 2 significant (ground-gaining) multi-phase possessions by Wales, and they ended in error and infringement.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:44 pm
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I thought Ireland outsmarted Wales. Given the conditions and how they knew Wales want to play they just stopped them doing anything. As above Wales couldn't find a new plan.

As I say, Wales played like England...


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:45 pm
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Both Irish centres made breaks. It was never going to be a day for flowing three quarter moves given the game plan and the conditions. Great that Ireland were able to play a totally different game to the one employed against NZ in the autumn. Top marks so far for Schmitt.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:46 pm
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well there was the one with the disallowed try where they seemed to move upfield through the irish at will. Prior to that the quick taps from Phillips, or the clean break from Roberts where he brushed aside some old bloke 😉

Faletau going outside Trimble was funny too


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:47 pm
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Wales played like England...

to be fair I havent seen England fail to do the basics like that in about 20 years.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:51 pm
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Who is the english player with the rats tail? 😆 😯 😯


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:52 pm
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It was more the complete lack of ability to come up with a different game plan. Wales weren't great but they weren't [i]that[/i] bad - Ireland had a plan to beat them and it worked, well.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:53 pm
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well there was the one with the disallowed try where they seemed to move upfield through the irish at will.

The one time they were near the line and it should have been an Irish line out on the Wales 5m line when Halfpenny flapped the ball out.

Trimble pushed Toby into touch.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:54 pm
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Trimble pushed Toby into touch.

Faletau beat him on the outside, that he then got back to help make the tackle doesnt make it any less funny


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:56 pm
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1309 message again on one of the Scots arm bandages. Second week running, what does it stand for?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:56 pm
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Pitch looks better than I thought it was going to be!

Not looking forward to this - we simply haven't got enough power to compete with England.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 4:57 pm
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13 09 ? Score prediction!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:00 pm
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130 to 9 surely


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:01 pm
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dont see the point in those drops, might as well have a run surely?


 
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Agree, go for the 7 in that situation, and then why kick to one of scotlands best players (Denton) twice in a row??


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:06 pm
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In the words of Bill McClaren, "he gave that one a mighty hoof" 😀


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:08 pm
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nice line


 
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Phew, just writing that this could be a bit of a dirge, then that was nice angles...phew!

How far offside do chasers have to be to be pinged offside these days? Ditto obstructing the chaser?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:13 pm
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scotland think they are Wales!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:39 pm
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Brian Habana playing for England - ok a bit taller!!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:44 pm
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13-0 at HT, again? England to win 26-3...


 
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I reckon England will get more and Scotland a wee bit less than that!


 
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Like the comments about the ref making a game of it!!! Odd not to have a penalty at the end there.

C'mon England push on now (despite the conditions)....


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 5:47 pm
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Credit to Scotland for hanging in here. England should have been more clinical in finishing this off.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:28 pm
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We've defended well here. England may be disappointed with this 2nd half?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:35 pm
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England are playing rugby, what are Scotland playing?


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:35 pm
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two poor matches this w/e


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:36 pm
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Scotland have got the same out of this game as they have offered it. Bugger all. Duncan Weir - another one from the proud Scottish production line of gash fly halves. England have won in every department.


 
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Aye - Weir is crap. Lineout was a shambles. Too many penalties given away. Not good enough is the real reason of course.

Defence was ok given the possession we had.

It's a wooden spoon season..............again!


 
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Yip. England too powerful Scotland woeful


 
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8)


 
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I also think Scott Johnson is very culpable. He seems to have set his side up solely on the basis of a wet ball and crap pitch. Zero ambition yields zero points.

England didn't need to get out of second gear.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:47 pm
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Scotland were very poor again no attacking threat and poor discipline led to easy points for England. If England can keep first choice players fit they can still win the championship. Though it depends on someone else beating France and Ireland.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 6:49 pm
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Oh god that was awful. Scotland have to improve our discipline as it was the final nail in the coffin tonight. How bad has our line-out become that we can lose almost as many as we win.

Just a bit of a mess of errors that snowballed. Not much positive to be taken from it. On to Italy for the wooden spoon decider ( if we are lucky and the Italians don't turn over the French tomorrow?)


 
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It's hard to see how Scott Johnson earns his pay. That was dire. Scotland have good players but seem to have no ideas of how they want to play, felt sorry for the ever eager Denton! why take the best player off?

I guess England could have kicked a lot more points, but sad that they didn't really push on and score more tries (perhaps they didn't want to give their moves away 😉 for when it matters). At least we know want the call "ninja" means!!!!!!


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 7:02 pm
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Sad thing for Wales is the lack of options.

Jake Ball over Coombs
Tips at 7 and Warbs at 6
Shit or bust with Lee at 3 and Rhodri Jones at 1? No idea why they keep putting R Jones at 3 when he seems to play 1 for Scarlets.
Who can we have in place of Liam Williams, he's and honest trier but lacks class.
Maybe Charteris will return.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 7:14 pm
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if only our skills matched our love of rugby........ Poor game, lots to work on.

Oh, and England Nr 10 (Farrell) - not a sportsman.
http://balls.ie/rugby/video-owen-farrell-pushes-chris-cusiter/


 
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Oh, and England Nr 10 - not a sportsman.

yes Farrell up to his usual petulance, its repulsive isn't it. But don't just single him out, plenty of other players are just as bad, eg you often see Phillips doing this, its just as repulsive..


 
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I am an England support through and through, but I would quite like to see someone twot Farrell at some point. It's the same old thing, no one likes people acting like arseholes, and it is good when they get their comeuppance. I'm thinking some hairy backed boer farmer playing for South Africa might get hold of him and spark him out.


 
Posted : 08/02/2014 7:44 pm
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Seems to be a lot more aggro this year. Maybe people think it 'pumps' them up and helps their performance. You want rugby still to have the physicality and aggression to it but the off the ball stuff is just niggly. Possibly since the advent of video refs people are looking for a reaction and getting an opponent carded.

Anyway my money is on spikey Mikey and Farrell having handbags as neither of them is actually going to properly **** the other.


 
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Thought farrells push wasn't as bad as the fullback Gloating about the try Now that was shit. I am English and a real rugby fan.


 
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yes Farrell up to his usual petulance, its repulsive isn't it. But don't just single him out, plenty of other players are just as bad, eg you often see Phillips doing this, its just as repulsive..

do you, dont get me wrong he'd start a fight in an empty phonebox but he's usually the stand in front and have a go type. Not the push the smallest guy on the pitch over when he's not looking type. Oh and he'd wipe the floor with Farrel but I doubt Farrel would be stupid enough to try that with spikey. Many much bigger and tougher guys than Farrel have had a pop at spikey, he takes it well. He was acting like a **** today but at least it shows he cares.


 
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