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19 year old, at home from uni, gets recurrent bad mouth ulcers, this time very bad, entire mouth tongue soft tissue ulcerated. Cant / wont eat and drinks very small amounts of milkshake or fizzy drink. Very skinny so no reserves.
Suggested now urging / nagging him to go to the DR's but he won't go. DR's wont talk to my Wife since hes 19.
What can we do other than wait until we need to call 999.
Can't help with an answer to that, but I'd suggest getting him to lay off the fizzy drinks as a start (if he listens to you at all).
It's obvious he [i]needs[/i] to go to the doctor. But he won't. Has he said why he won't go?
You need to find the answer to that question and work from there I reckon.
Bonjela? Salt water gargles?
Reluctance to go to the Dr could be due to embarassment if he's concerned that he contract said ailment from a nefarious source... No idea how to help him to overcome this if so.
If i'm overly stressed, poor diet, rundown etc. I tend to have outbreaks of ulcers. A few weeks of rest and bonjela and mouth wash usually clears it up.
Is he scared it's some sort of std?
Google some pictures of extreme cases and show him what will happen if he doesn't go
Speed squash?
Deadly Darcy +1.
Several differential diagnoses spring to mind and they need to be considered and tested for.
I've never heard the term 'speed squash' but when I read the OP I thought 'that sounds like me on speed'
Of course it could be any number of other things.
Certainly isn't from an embarrassing source since his first bad attack which hospitalised him was when he was 7
Typical 19 year old talks in grunts at the moment because it hurts, won't communicate with me (since I get wound up when he won't do the obvious thing).
Wife at wits end since she can normally coax him but not this time. Suspect there is an underlying stress issue somewhere. Hes a bright lad just about to do 2nd year Physics at Manchester.
Has he said why he won't go?You need to find the answer to that question and work from there I reckon.
+1
Being a male, still teenager, if he is anything like mine he will shrug and say 'I don't know!'...
Personally, I'd book the appointment for him, tell him when it is and that'll you be taking him in a non-aggressive, caring tone.
If the receptionist won’t even accept an appointment request from you, you can decide to pretend to be him, or tell her to wind her neck in and he can’t talk because of the ulcers.
It does sound like drugs
It does sound like drugs
Really?
Certainly isn't from an embarrassing source since his first bad attack which hospitalised him was when he was 7
Sounds like a recurrence of a pre-existing condition brought on my stress and / or being run down.
Please make your son go to the doctor, my son was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes a few years ago. Got very thin, run down, felt like shit but wouldn't go to the doctor. Luckily we have a friend who's a gp and he diagnosed him.
He was very close to going into a coma and we could have lost him. Please please do whatever you can to get him to the docs.
Explain to him that if he sees the doc it's 100% confidential. The more truth he can give the doc, the quicker it'll get better, and no one except him and the doc will ever know what was discussed. Make it clear you're not interested in the details, just that he stays healthy.
What WillH said - whatever your son thinks might be wrong with him only he and the Dr need to know.
I hesitate to say this but if he's too embrassed/anxious to visit a family Dr you all use and who's known him for years then ask him to go to the local out of hours walk in centre.
Please make your son go to the doctor, my son was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes a few years ago. Got very thin, run down, felt like shit but wouldn't go to the doctor. Luckily we have a friend who's a gp and he diagnosed him.He was very close to going into a coma and we could have lost him. Please please do whatever you can to get him to the docs.
This. I'm a step parent to a type one child.
My 19 year old responds well to financial incentives. "You're making your mother unhappy, I'll take you to the doctors and give you a £50 note if the doctor says the meeting went OK when you walk out" would probably do it. As discussion can be complicated I just e-mail junior links to click on if I think there's something he should know about. He reads them and sometimes comments which is a form of communication.
Daktarin oral thrush cream, available over the counter. Sounds like thrush, won't do any harm if it isn't. If it isn't, turn off the internet until he goes.
If you can't get him to go to the GP then phone NHS 111 before it gets to 999 stage.
Hes a bright lad just about to do 2nd year Physics at Manchester.
The Plaza curry house has closed now so that rules that one out.
As above, there could be an underlying deficiency or illness if he's getting that ulcerated. Turn off the wifi and pack him into the car.
smack him over the head with a frying pan so it knocks him out, then call an ambulance and say that he's suffered a head trauma and is unconcious - they should respond to that and it will get him to A&E...
Hes a bright lad
hmmm...
TurnerGuy - Membersmack him over the head with a frying pan so it knocks him out, then call an ambulance and say that he's suffered a head trauma and is unconcious - they should respond to that and it will get him to A&E...
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TurnerGuy - MemberHes a bright lad
hmmm...
hmmmm indeed
my younger brother had very similar symptoms at about that age, coincided with leaving school and joining RNavy, stress related poss also some docs said to be possibly an immune reaction any how various legit drugs helped cleared up quite quick as i remember and i dont too well twas 1984 ish. drag/bribe him to docs hope all ok soon a single ulcer is shit... a mouthful jeez
Stress & possibly/probably not eating well would be my uneducated guess.
A mate at uni decided that to save money he could survive on Weetabix for breakfast & toast for every other meal - back in the day when Tesco were doing 9p loaves of bread.
This worked well for about 6-8 weeks until one day his mouth erupted in mouth ulcers...he changed tack at that point.
Update, hes drunk plenty of milkshake and squash (not fizzy :-)) and eaten a bit too
Diabetes is a bit of a scare better check that one.
Wife seems happier which is a good sign since she is normally very calm and understanding.
Thanks All.
davidtaylforth - Member
http://www.your-bulimia-recovery.com/bulimics-often-have-painful-mouth-ulcers.html
Certainly isn't from an embarrassing source since his first bad attack which hospitalised him was when he was 7
Clearly didn't do too well in reading comprehension at school, did you... 🙄
Someone I knew had a terrible and sudden case of mouth ulcers - every inch of his mouth was ulcerated, but there was no specific "cause" as such; I think it was put down by the doc to stress and being 'run down'. He's fine and it hasn't happened since.
Hope he's okay.
Certainly isn't from an embarrassing source since his first bad attack which hospitalised him was when he was 7
If he's been having this from the age of 7 then you must have some idea what is behind it and what the doctor is likely to do/say. Has the doctor been able to fix these attacks in the past? If it is soemthing that doesn't respond to treatment, then maybe there isn't much point in your son going to the drs.....
When I was a teenager/ early 20s I had terrible trouble with mouth ulcers. They're so painful and make life miserable I lost interest in doing much and stopped eating.
Turned out I was sensitive to Sodium lauryl sulphate. Changed toothpaste to one without and and they slowly cleared up. Took ages to find a toothpaste without it, I 'think' it was a sensodyne gel.
The sensitivity only lasted a few years but before I got it under control it made me miserable and dominated my outlook on life at times. Got stressed about it, got more ulcers, cycle repeated.
Never know, might help?
If he's been having this from the age of 7 then you must have some idea what is behind it and what the doctor is likely to do/say. Has the doctor been able to fix these attacks in the past? If it is soemthing that doesn't respond to treatment, then maybe there isn't much point in your son going to the drs.....
kind of this.
had a years course of Aciclovir to try and not it on the head when he was about 9-10, no effect. Normally the doc does prescribes more of the same, but generally its too late.
We think the trigger is too much time in his room during holidays and not getting run down this way. Being a typical teenager he won't listen to us!
When I was a teenager/ early 20s I had terrible trouble with mouth ulcers. They're so painful and make life miserable I lost interest in doing much and stopped eating.Turned out I was sensitive to Sodium lauryl sulphate. Changed toothpaste to one without and and they slowly cleared up. Took ages to find a toothpaste without it, I 'think' it was a sensodyne gel.
anything with toothpaste with 'whitening' gives me terrible mouth ulcers.
as did hand, foot and mouth. two weeks of hell.
Reluctance to go to the Dr could be due to embarassment if he's concerned that he contract said ailment from a nefarious source... No idea how to help him to overcome this if so.
S[s]p[/s]eed squash?
My daughter came back from Manchester University last month (end of second year) and almost immediately developed a mouthful of ulcers. We put it down to exam stress and too much alcohol. Cleared up after a week and she's been fine since. She hasn't mentioned anything about a friend doing Physics either, before anyone asks. 🙂
If you can't convince him to go, I'd start removing privileges. Internet, money, whatever it takes.
Obviously start with pudding.
[quote=hamishthecat ]She hasn't mentioned anything about a friend doing Physics either, before anyone asks.
Probably too embarrassed
it sounds a difficult situation. I would buy some corsodyl mouthwash and get some some multivitamins. Ask what he has been eating at uni. If his diet has been limited he may even have scurvy. I lived with some very bright people at uni and they ate total shite. Good luck
I had these symptoms when the little one gave me Hand, Foot and Mouth.......does he show any any signs of rash/skin condition?
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andyg1966 - Member
Certainly isn't from an embarrassing source since his first bad attack which hospitalised him was when he was 7
Could be simply that experience is what's putting him off.
If he's had it for twelve years then presumably you already have a diagnosis? What did previous treatment consist of?
Is he fatigued at all? Complete lack of appetite, weight loss + profuse mouth ulcers were amongst the symptoms I had prior to being diagnosed with Crohns disease at age 18.
After 12 years (19-7=12) of going to the doctors and waiting for hours in a room full of sick people, I too, would not waste my time going to a doctor as they have proved they do not have a cure.