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We finally found some reasonably priced accomodation in the centre of Bruil-Cervinia in March 25 for our lads trip. We've stayed at three different areas in the Dolomites for the past three years, Cortina, Ortesei and Campitello di Fassa. All of which were great successes and we'll defintely go back....but the draw of the Zermatt and the Matterhorn had to be done.
Just sorted Tignes out for the mates trip in Jan because it was the cheapest option.
Have also booked Tignes again at Easter for a surprise trip with our eldest as he's learning at the mo and is desperate to go to an actual mountain, it's high up and a mate's going with his family at the same time so hopefully there'll still be snow, but there'll definitely be someone to go to the pub with.
There’ll definitely be snow at the Easter in Tignes. Probably one of the most extensive areas at that time of year, been late April before and everything was still open.
Got a session booked at the Snozone in Castleford next week. Its 14 years since I was last on a snowboard but I want to see if my knee can handle some general riding. My days of freestyle/trick riding ended when I tore my ACL in 2006 but hoping to be able to wear a brace (got a cheapish Donjoy one but will replace it with a better one if necessary) and just do some piste bashing, hopefully some powder in the long term.
Also looking at maybe a week away somewhere in December so I can get some proper snow experience other than the indoor centre. I can only do December as Jan-April I'm unable to take time off but have seen some reasonable deals for Mayrhofen (right over Christmas on a B&B basis which could be tough food wise), Courmayeur, Passo Tonale, Bulgaria and Norway (these are earlier in December, around the 14th). Anyone been to any of these in December? Good enough for a weeks riding?
I've got a mate who runs a ski company in Japan and I'm heading out there in Jan 2026 for a 10 day trip. Japan has been on my list of places to snowboard since I was working ski seasons from 2002-2006. Hoping my knee can manage this hence the Snozone trip and also a week away somewhere.
My first ever trip was Bulgaria at Christmas (albeit Dec 1997 so some years ago). The resort was green.
I adore Courmayeur, and I've enjoyed Passo Tonale a couple of times. I reckon both would be fine by Christmas in terms of snow covers, though not sure about mid-dec. THey're not huge resorts - you could ski every piste in Courmayeur in one day if you go hard - but there's enough to go at for sure
@Creg which knee is it? I always find that if anything is going to ache after an indoor visit it's either the knee or hip of my leading foot because of all the twisting you have to do on the drag lift as a snowboarder. I guess I'm just saying that if it hurts, try and note what made it hurt.
Oh and have fun!
It's my left one, I ride goofy so my "back" leg so to speak. I overshot a jump and landed badly, twisted the knee out and broke my ACL and partially tore two others. I had surgery to correct it but that failed and I'm now left without an ACL at all. Last time I was snowboarding it held up fine without a brace but I'm now a lot older, more unfit (read fatter) and have had some knee issues over the last 5 years. I'm also really lazy and don't do enough physio, which I keep get yelled at for by a phsyio colleague.
Hopefully it'll hold up OK, I can build some strength in it and I'll be fit and capable enough to enjoy Japan as best I can...and hopefully some snow in December if I'm lucky.
Plus I also get to go snowboard shopping.
Where/how do people buy skis these days? We have been serial hirers as it was cost effective vs cost of carriage and servicing, but hire costs have rocketed in recent years. So, we think we have identified what we would like to buy but the number of physical retailers is severely limited. Do you trust/use online or buy in resort or make a very long journey in the UK to an actual shop? I'm based in Suffolk which doesn't help but prepared to make a day trip to pick up if viable.
Ellis Brigham. Go to one of the indoor snow centres and have a go on a few pairs after giving honest appraisal of your skiing to an experienced sales person.
Biggest issue they have is getting customers to be honest about their ability so they can advise what would suit and what length.
That or do your homework online and get some ex hire off Ebay.
Agree with DT, I have sold some good skis on ebay that have been well looked after.
Ellis Brigham (there is one in Chelmsford) and Snow and Rock tend to be the big shops we go to.
An independent is Snowfit https://snowfit.co.uk/collections/skis which is in Norfolk. I narrowed down the skis I was interested in to Blizzard black pearl, nordica wild belle and volkl kenja. Spoke to Snowfit, ended up buying the Wild Belles and they were/are perfect. I regret selling them to a friend but she has given them a good home (except when she skied onto a road in them after a spot of apres action).
My latest skis and boots came from Ekosport in France, I bought them online and they have been fine. I know buying boots online is risky but try finding a boot in size 21.5 that is not made for a child in the UK proved to be an impossible task.
https://www.glisshop.co.uk. Have a online tool to help you pick your skis which is pretty good. Its called "5 secs to find my skis"
Hope this helps
I bought my last pair from Sportpursuit but I knew what I was wanting from my next skis. I don’t mind using the likes of Snow and Rock but also like supporting small independent shops. I get my boots and bindings mounted from Glide and Slide in Otley, not on my doorstep but always had a good experience with them.
@blackhat depending on how deep you are in Suffolk there also Skiexchange in Dry Drayton (an easy run off the A14). Top team and shop. I say that not having bought skis but used them as boot fitters and adjusters, but may be worth checking too. I've not noticed a massive increase in hire costs, but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention!
Thanks for the replies. Went into Snowfit a while back and found it just a bit weird - couldn't put my finger on it and maybe it was just the warehouse nature of the shop. Might have to try one of the snow slope outlets. TBH I think I know what I want (Black Crow Serpo) having hired a pair last winter but now realising I maybe should have been a size up, the rubbish snow masking their true nature. Online Q&A throws up two different answers depending on how ambitious I feel.
I last bought skis at Decathlon, I bought their own brand skis as they looked interesting online and had good reviews and most importantly had both a great price and were available at the Decathlon we passed in La Plagne while driving up to resort. I bought the Patrol 95 for both Mrs NBT (in a 165) and myself (in a 175) - although I actually bought the 95W version for us both which is technically a women's ski. Meh. I'm not a big bloke and I've really enjoyed skiing it. Best bit is they were €300 a pair, including bindings.
My snowboard needs waxing, do I pay someone to do it or get the kit at a greater expense now but save in the long run by being able to do it myself? Is it that difficult?
That said I've also stumbled upon SNOcoat and am now wondering if any of you lot have experience of such a thing? Easier to apply than wax and longer lasting, albeit more expensive.
I’d happily take a spin on the glencoe slopes.
but, the bindings on snowboards still look mediaeval to a beginner.
wouldn’t it be simpler and less egregious to peoples knees to utilise the ‘Time’ pedal clipless system?
easy release, etc.
what are the options for attaching feet to board at the mo?
wouldn’t it be simpler and less egregious to peoples knees to utilise the ‘Time’ pedal clipless system?
Mmmm. Imagine one did disengage but the other stayed on....
bought the Patrol 95 for both Mrs NBT (in a 165) and myself (in a 175) – although I actually bought the 95W version
95 underfoot... I didn't have you down as a powderhound NBT. The guy in S&R last week insisted my son shouldn't go wider than 80mm on an all mountain ski. I was dumbfounded but the guy was insistent. He said all his skiing was on 80 mm, and that was plenty.
I think mine are a bit wide at 102, the kid's mum is on 88mm I think and you're both on 95.
Seems to me S&R man was talking pisch
Opinions on ski length and width for 70kg 178 cm 19 year old to explore the full mountain?
what are the options for attaching feet to board at the mo?
Most (including me) will use regular bindings because that's what we've always done and they just work, doing their job with no fuss at all. They're a fair bit cheaper and the lack of tech/moving parts means reliability too.
That said, nowadays you've got easy entry offerings from the likes of Nidecker, Flow and Burton.
Personally I've just updated my bindings for more of the same, I don't actually know anyone that rides step-in's so can't pass comment on the differences in use other than spending an extra 30 secs at the top of the hill strapping in.
I am an uncommonly inflexible individual and can’t strap in standing up (or sitting down sometimes) - Burton step ons have definitely decreased the “we’re waiting for the snowboarder again” incidences. Being able to just clip in direct from a chair is also pretty handy.
My snowboard needs waxing, … Is it that difficult?
No, but it is messy-ish
Hard to think anything with an 80 width would be classified as all mountain - that’s front side territory. All mountain to me is high 80s up to 100-ish. As for length, I think the general rule of thumb is something between one’s height and 10cm shorter but it will depend as much on skier aggression and fitness as much as height and weight. Skiessentials.com is a decent internet rabbit hole to lose an afternoon to.
I didn’t have you down as a powderhound NBT
i have done a few off piste trips and enjoyed North America where you can ski anywhere
I’d say up to 90mm would be fine, maybe even 95. Mrs NBT went from 72mm underfoot to 95mm and skis just fine, in fact she loves the new skis. As always it’s about the technique: if you’re good you CAN ski the whole mountain on 72mm underfoot, or even on 122mm underfoot, but there’s a balance point to be had for those of us who do a week or two each year
My snowboard needs waxing, do I pay someone to do it or get the kit at a greater expense now but save in the long run by being able to do it myself? Is it that difficult?
I keep thinking about getting a kit but then a wax only (no edge) is only €10 at the local Intersport so it’s too easy to keep doing that.
I went straight from a set of hire shop piste skis which I had a few lessons on to a pair of 98mm underfoot and was only skiing blues at the time. They were absolutely fine and lasted me about 8 years and only replaced them this year with 96mm albeit about 8cm longer too. And they work perfectly well on groomers all day long if that’s where you end up.
@the generalist
https://www.glisshop.co.uk . Have a online tool to help you pick your skis which is pretty good. Its called “5 secs to find my skis”
Just to give you some ideas.
I'm sure some people can ski the whole mountain on <80mm under foot. That doesn't mean everyone has to or wants to.
I had 88 under foot which were my favourite skis, now on Santa Ana 93 under foot. The new skis require more effort and are not the best in hard, icy conditions but they are still a fun ski and great in powder.
If I was buying another pair I'd probably be going back to 88 under foot. Just not that many powder days these days
The same as bikes there is no pair of skis for all conditions. Best to have a quiver??. Three pairs of second hand is better than one pair of new ime. I spent a few days in Cham on my off piste skis (dad was in my piste skis) conditions were hard pack and frozen. It was hard work on a pair of 180 x 100mm planks. Dad was fine though!
Anyone stayed in the Maurienne valley and driven around to different resorts? Done some research and it looks like an alternative to the Aosta valley where we've employed this approach successfully a few times but fancy a change. It has a number of medium sized resorts to choose from and then also the option for the back door Orelle lift into the VT slopes of the 3V - which I've not skied.
Any opinions?
Not been but it's on my radar. The 6 day lift pass covers one day out in each of the other resorts, and the dynamic pricing varies by resort, so buy early in the smaller resorts. Plenty more info on snowheads
Following on from above, Mrs BH and I paid a visit to Ski Exchange and.......it underlined why physical retailing very much has a place - a large range of stock (actually in stock), knowledgeable and engaging owners and staff, and two satisfied punters at the end of the day. Highly recommended.
Three pairs of second hand is better than one pair of new
I don't agree. Just costs too much to transport the damn things. If you drive there then fair enough, or fly alone..
Can anyone recommend a good hotel for 8 blokes (40+) in a top Austrian resort please? St Anton, Mayrhofen, Ischgl....
looking for 4 or 5 nights in Jan / Feb but never done Austria before and really keen to try it. needs to have lively apres too...!
Sestriere for the family Akers this year. Going high, to try and mitigate the chances of another bad season. Mrs Akers and I have been to the Milky Way ski range before, but we stayed in Montgenevre, so the top of the range was at the edge of what was skiable in a day. Fingers crossed for some decent snowfall from now until February!
Opinions on ski length and width for 70kg 178 cm 19 year old to explore the full mountain?
I'm 65kg and 1m74 . I use 165/65, 170/79 and 170/88. The widest ski's I've used are junior's Head Core 93s. On soft groomed piste I'm quite happy on all off them, if it's icy then the Dynastar Omeglas 165/65 win hands down, and in powder the wider skis are much easier. In heavy fresh snow I should really leave the slalom skis in the cupboard:
We have skied quite a bit in the Haute Maurienne.
Before we had kids we used to do ski-safari trips, skiing a new resort every day. We went to the Haute Maurienne for 5 days. Aussois, Val Cenis, Bonneval sur Arc, La Norma and Val Frejus. All very different resorts, and all worth a visit.
We chose Aussois when looking for a resort for our kids to learn to ski. Cheap, compact, and simple, with sunny slopes and accomodation right at the ski school meeting point.
From Aussois you can easily get to Valfrejus, La Norma and Val Cenis.
An HMV pass gets you unlimited skiing at your home resort, and one day at each of the others. The only difference is if you stay at La Norma or Valfrejus you get unlimited skiing at both those resorts.
There is a bus linking the resorts, but only with one destination per day, so it is way better to have a car.
We would put the kids through ski school in the morning, then jump in the car for a 30 minute shuttle to a different resort for an afternoon adventure.
We moved to Val Cenis with a large extended family group, and VC has something for everyone. We have always had good snow in Haute Maurienne.
Look at the resort websites for insane skipass deals. If you time it right you can get 60% off, but you need to get in quick. I bought 4 passes for 60% off on the day after the season finished, ready for the next trip.
Sunweb have good value deals for Val Cenis and Valfrejus. We got a week for a family of 4, including 3* self catering accommodation with a pool AND lift passes for £536 all in. Had a brilliant week, skiing every resort in the valley.
The mistake I made was to give my graduated-from-ski-school kids a taste of La Plagne/Les Arcs, so now they are truly spoilt. This year a week at La Plagne/Les Arcs followed by a week at Alpe d'Huez. They don't know they're born...
We have also skied at Les Karelis, Valloire/Valmeiner and at St Sorlin d'Arves, all of which were great, especially when bargain prices were had...
I have skied 3v from Orelle, but access and return takes such a chunk of time that for better 3B skiing you are better being somewhere more "in" the 3V. For accessing spring laps high above Val Thorens it is great.
My experience of Valmorel and St Francois de Longchamp brings to mind tenuous links and unmemorable skiing. We skied there for one day and have never been back.
Thanks for the great write up @TroutWrestler. Sounds like a definate option for the future. I was struggling a bit for NYE accomodation and there's just two of us going this year so the whole car-multi resort financials don't stack up quite so well. Off to Cervinia instead which will be cool.
OK well the lads are narrowing down on an airbnb in Mayrhofen.
Any opinions on Mayrhofen? i have reservations looking at the piste maps - looks relatively low down, highest lift station only 2500m and resort is super low down at 600m, plus it looks like you cannot ski home!? i have never heard about them having poor conditions tho?
i am an veteran of Tarantasie valley, paradiski, three valleys etc. How does Mayrhofen compare? should i be pushing for Ischgl or St Anton instead??
TA
We love Mayrhofen. It has everything. A Zillertal superskipass lets you ski there, on the hintertux glacier, the Zillertal arena (the Gerlos tour is a mammoth day out - you’ll not use the same lift all day), hochfugen. Kaltenbach and spieljoch. You can get a free bus/ train from Mayrhofen to each of them. We’ve never been without snow / somewhere with good snow in the 30 or so years we’ve been heading there
it’s pretty good for nightlife too.
im going twice this year: once with some mates in Jan and again in February with the family. Really looking forward to it.
Boarders - has anyone one here run a Burton step on set up? Worth it over a conventional set up??
I'm a convention punter these days - once a week or so a year and want the convinience of being able to get off theift and move around the hi easier in groups with skiers... With that in mind these appear great but it's a fair cost.
Few black Friday things in this snowheads thread
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=171033&highlight=
Code BF24 will get you 20% off at eurotunnel for trips before end of march ( excl school hols and flexiplus). Log in BEFORE you start the booking process
has anyone one here run a Burton step on set up?
Yeah, I have them. I like them for the sort of riding I do (basic, mostly with skiers) and I'm pretty inflexible and unfit so it means I don't spend a lot of time sitting down and getting up.
Control wise, they are no different to the regular bindings I used to ride - at least I can't notice a difference.
Plus, being able to step in straight off a chair is pretty nice.
20 days until Tignes...
Boarders – has anyone one here run a Burton step on set up? Worth it over a conventional set up??
Yes, I've had a set of step ons since the year they were first released, must be 6 years or so ago.
They're really good, would not go back to regular bindings. Just the ability to be clipped in when you get off the lift and not have to faff about is brilliant. I tend to clip in just before I sit down on the chairlift at the bottom, but you can also clip in mid chairlift or at the top as you slide off.
Edge to edge repsonse is better than regular bindings too, a more direct feel
Thanks both. Appreciated.
has anyone seen any Black Friday ski/snow bargains? Looking to pick up a few bits of gear for myself and some for the kids if anyone has seen some good sales to trawl through.
This week I have mainly been using snowleader as they had a fat 25% BF on top of sale prices. Bought ice screws, Sportivas, 80 m rope, poles and a set of Volkl Mantras for the kid.
Code BF24 will get you 20% off at eurotunnel
No it won't. Code 24BF might though, till the end of today
Has anyone booked Eurotunnel without a roofbox then turned up with one fitted? What happened? We've got a 3 series estate and when we've booked with a roofbox they always measure use and wave us onto the booked section, but I reckon we're on the verge of being able to go in the lower height section and they might be lenient...
My ability to do anything other than think about piste maps, look at snow-forecast and think about skiing are gone. I'm usually like this anyway, but is anyone else particularly done with the work year and ready to head to the mountains now?
I hope to get some degree of focus back shortly, but in the meantime, perhaps it's time for another procrastination enabling coffee!
Just had our Patrol training kick off this weekend past and I redid my adv emergency care stuff. Just need some snow now.
@Scaled, I went in March this year, I've never been as warm in the mountains, so hope it stays nice and frosty for you. Enjoyed the brutalist architecture even though it's not for everyone and the little funicular between the higher and lower part of the town was ace.
Jade as a run back into the village was hideous in the afternoons though, chopped up and narrow, not my favourite way to ski.
We've done flaine in March before, my wife (who's half African and costs us a fortune in heating bills) was sat out in the snow in a t-shirt.
Up top is normally fine but down at resort, yeah it's a bit sketchy at that time of year.
I'd rather Jade in afternoon snowy, mogully porridge than Faust first thing in the mornings as a massive wall of solid ice!
I'm not sure it was cold enough all week to have much ice, Faust was a lot of fun given the lack of snow we had, I think it was probably my most used run all week.
Anyone got any experience with Les 7 Laux? Going as a family but a toss up of a nice small resort aor a bigger resort that we have been to before where my other half and myself can raz around all morning while the kids are in ski school?
But seen some good deals for 7Laux but never been nor know anything about it. But a little sceptical that cheap usually equates to poor snow, think highest point is 2000 ish meters? Going over Feb half term.
The upside to 7 Laux : it's close to Grenoble city centre
The downside to 7 Laux: ditto, so Wednesdays get the local school kids and the weekends are busy as.
What about skiing is it any good? Worth it?
Never been myself, but some people I know absolutely love the place. There's quite a high proportion of reds and blacks, which may or may not be what you're looking for.
No personal experience but from the where to ski and snowboard book
Les Sept-Laux
Family resort near Grenoble with pretty slopes and a modern lift system, these days promoted more often as Les 7 Laux. The main resort, with quite a bit of accommodation, is Prapoutel in the woods at 1350m; across the mountainside is another lift base at Pipay, at 1550m, and on the back of the hill is a third entry point at Le Pleynet. There is easy skiing at resort level, but the mountain as a whole is challenging. We're very sceptical of the resort's claim of 120km of pistes.
Text copied from an image via Google lens, so may have some slight inaccuracies.
@ffati hope this is helpful.
Kvitfjell or Hafjell for a few days in January?
This excellent report from Denfinella over on snowheads covers Les 7 Laux avec several other nearby resorts. Denfinella's trip reports are usually very detailed and accurate
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=158109 https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=158109
Les Arcs in two weeks. I've bought snow chains, booked the eurotunnel, and am obsessively checking the snow reports.
Sounds pretty good! Though have since found a good deal in st gervais which i love but 7laux sounds pretty awesome.
I have skied at Les 7 Laux, although it was only for 1 day and it was maybe 15 years ago. It was fine and we skied all over the area and skied all day. 1st lift up, last lift up too. I remember there was a nice bowl to drop into at the very top with along run down that was not pisted when we were there. We parked at Prapoutel, had a nice quick breakfast, and then went for an explore. I would go back, but a week might be stretching it without kids or with older kids. If I still had younger kids it would be perfect.
Might have to start a seperate thread for this as its a bit 'off piste' so to speak...
Has anyone here had experience of the their kids choosing skiing as one of their selected sports for GCSE? Advice for the school is vague as no pupils have gone with this option before.
We have to submit videos for a selection of skills, some quite simple like putting skiis on and off again, schuss, wide parallel turns etc.
However, there is a competitive element to it, which is where advice is not overly helping. The guidelines state slalom for example is acceptable and that the competitive aspect could be related to racing others or just the environment. We can video her at a timed slalom at the resort but would this be enough?
For clarity, she's a competent red run skiier but nothing more i.e. she's never raced and skiis just one week per year.
Any thoughts appreciated
@cb are you near to an indoor Snowzone or something like that? The often have a slalom club that let kids train / race weekly my daughter did this and it improved her overall technique greatly.
When you are at a resort also ask if there are any open kids races, we've stumbled across these a couple of times, nothing serious put on a bib and have a go affairs rather than something serious.
2 things.
1) Most likely the accessor won't know what they are doing. Simply due to it not being a very common choice. (I was told that by very experienced accessory)
2) Racing / competition is a major portion of the grade. You need to have footage. It's can be tricky to get out on the real snow if you are just a holiday maker so maybe do a few nights in a dry slow race training class and film that.
Very best of luck to your kid. Have fun.
In Flaine the ESF arrange a weekly Fleche race that anyone can enter. It's timed and depending how close to "their skier's" time you are, you get an award of gold, silver or bronze. Other resorts might well do this
There's also a small ski school that only use the race piste and focus entirely on race technique
For clarity, she’s a competent red run skiier but nothing more i.e. she’s never raced and skiis just one week per year.
This is not the definition of a good sport to be choosing for GSCE PE. I'm assuming you're picking this as the third sport?
FWIW, here's the mark scheme for the AQA board exams -
https://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/physical-education/gcse/physical-education-8582/specification/scheme-of-assessment
The full context assessment is essentially a competitive environment, so she needs to start doing that.
She'll need to demonstrate skills too - so some coaching to get some drills to demonstrate would be useful.
source: wife is a PE teacher. She gets a lot of students picking PE as they think it's easy. It's not.
@ffati Les 7 laux is a great ski area. Never stayed there. But it's one of my local ski areas. The off piste is good, and plenty of variance in orientation and difficulity of slopes. It does get all the local kids....because it's the best. It's just as big as many other popular resorts, that I just don't get the hype for: Couramyeur for example. It's subjective, but if it was new to me, I wouldn't want to ski there for more than say 3 times in a row. Other good resorts though....Correncon en Vercors for example, part of Espace Villard can be absolutely sublime with a completely different feel to typical alps skiing.
Perfect thanks for that would be there for atleast a week so possibly not the best fir us
There are a few threads on Snowheads re PE : Skiing. If it hasn't already been said.
Also habitually checking weather and webcams and not doing any work.
Off on 27th La Plagne. Looking okay at the moment.
Kvitfjell or Hafjell for a few days in January?
@thegeneralist - neither really on my radar. Hafjell has a rep for a good park, Kvitfjell for lift access off piste (but not epic). Decent snow common, access to either and not far between them so could do both fairly easily if you're in the area. What's the logic of those over other areas in Norway?
Kvitfjell for lift access off piste (but not epic).
Ooh, now we're talking. TBH lift served off piste is all I'm interested in.
Decent snow common, access to either and not far between them so could do both fairly easily if you’re in the area. What’s the logic?
Good question. I should have added the relevant detail that it is mainly an ice climbing trip but that we'll probably do some skiing if it gets all fresh. Looking at Gudbrandsdalen area for ice.
We have booked a last minute NY week in Val d'Isere. a relative bargain on an apartment, so plus passes is about £2000 for a week for 4 of us, but the real stinger is there is no parking available to book anywhere in the resort. I have booked a space in Tignes Brevieres! I will have to park and get the shuttle bus if it is running, or a taxi. We're driving from Scotland so don't fancy any unnecessary hassle.
I have emailed chasing up a Val d'Isere parking spot. Fingers crossed...
@troutwrestler the Tignes app suggests the bus has started (as of 30/11). But not very frequent. If you download and install it you should be able to see the same.
Thanks, I can see the bus details. As it is we will arrive at Tignes Brevieres late morning, leave the stuff in the car. Go for ski, ski back to the car, take the car out the car park and drive around to check in/unload. I'll then drive back to TB, dump the car, and try to bus it back. We will probably leave after skiing on Friday, so will have everything packed up. We'll ski to get the car at the end of the day, drive back to Vd'I, fill it and bolt.
I am a little bit incredulous that there is apparently no paid parking available.