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Mrs nobeer got a new Osprey pack recently, bucket zip on the top, which is much better than my Stratos trad style double clip and draw string. I notice lots of the range have this now.
@elshalimo - be careful with which one you pick, depending on your back length. I'm 6'3 but top and bottom halves all in standard proportion. I find Osprey bags in size M/L to be too small, they only work for me if they are available in three sizes, not two, and have a size L available. Or those that are heavier with lots of adjustment
I buy all my rucksacks (that I use a hip belt with) in long back length. Have around 20 rucksacks. Would definitely recommend the Aeon series from Lowe Alpine for day walks. Nice configuration of things and come in a long back length that's still adjustable (and pretty light)
Christ, I thought I was bad at buyinmg a 3rd pack!.
a tad over 6'1" here, L suits perfectly.
Has anyone done the Morecambe bay sands walk? I was in the area recently and thought that looked a superb trek - quite a special landscape (there's actually a bridleway across it).
Unfortunately it's not something recommended to just go and do - the risk of quicksand is legit so people do it on guided tours (Arnside to Grange over Sands currently) which is less appealing to me, but prob worth it for that particular walk.
You REALLY need a guide for that walk or it could end in disaster. My friends did it a while ago and the guide showed them how dangerous it is just off the "path". Of course the "path" changes with the seasons and tides so you really need the local expert to guide you across
Looking towards Snowdon from above Beddgelert between the heavy showers
Grand.
Anyone got any weekend walking plans?
We're in the Cairngorms for a week from sunday, but I'm actually considering not taking the hill stuff, and just chilling on some lower level stuff, playing with paddle boards etc....
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Took the kids up Ben Cleuch (721m) today. It was my first time up the hills for many years. The up was fine but my god the down was burning the thighs. Reminded me how much I love it in the hills though.
Even in this weather Matt, stilla boggy bastard that!.
Ochils are steep andy4d!
Had a cracking wee midweek high level camp up between Shelter stone crag and Carn Eatchachan. Was fantastic, didn't start til after 6pm, to avoid the days heat, perfect time to be in the hills tbh, only met one other person on Macdui path, unheard of.
Was top hot the rest of the week to drag the bairn up mountains tbh.
Nowt this weekend, wife working.
Cracking pics, looks like a lovely night out.
@andy4d - Ochils are surprisingly steep and often 'punch above thier height'. Lovely hills.
Matt, you need to just open pic on phone, share symbol, copy link, and paste that directly.
Used to be bbcode, not now mate.
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Beinn a Bheither with the wean on Monday, great pair of hills.
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Another idiot attempt at posting a pic.
Dunno how to post google pics, wish I did, could cut out flickr altogether!
Ochils are surprisingly steep and often ‘punch above thier height’. Lovely hills
I've done the Ochils 2000 race a few times and it's a great route.
@chickenman - great photo. It's a really good day out on that horseshoe. I've done it a couple of times and the descent is quite tricky in bad weather
Had a boomer day out last Sunday from Braemar, biked in towards Corrour then did Bienn Brohtain, Monadh Mor, Braeriach, Angels Peak, Cairn Toul, Devils Pt then back to bikes. It was quite hot and thankfully there were a number of streams to lie down in between running sections ! Beautiful day, gotta strike while the weather is good !
Ooft, thats a cracking day, that's the Munro's we had to miss doing our 18 last month, due to the weather, need to get back up and get them done. How long do you reckon you were all in Col?.
From getting on bike to getting off the bike it was 8h 30m inc a 30 min lunch stop (52km/1890m), that's from LoD, another 35 mins each way if you bike in from Braemar. You can ride quite a long way up the track on the opp bank to the main Corrour track, there's an obvs path heading up the water course to Bienn Brohtain. The Cleggs were mighty though so Smidge up even under your bike shorts !
Some awesome looking stuff above. Eventful July in the hills for me, continuing my ticking of the Wainwrights.
Bagged 2 at the start of July.....Hartson Dodd.....memorable as it was the first one that I ever ticked (on my first hiking trip to the Lakes with my gf, didn't know what Wainwrights were then!) The reason for the return trip was so that I could propose! Rather foolishly she said yes....genuinely 5 minutes later we were sat in our storm shelter with our glasses of champagne, got hit by the worst storm I've ever had in the mountains!!!
They day after we had a lovely evening Stroll ticking Hartsop Above How.
This weekend just gone I did a solo 7 Wainwright tick around Buttermere, wildcamping just below High Crag. 21 miles in 26 degree heat, gruelling but absolutely awesome. Let me see if I can sort some pics. Now sat laid up with Covid planning my next adventures.
I definitely think that I need a better multi day rucksack. I can't quite fit all of my gear into my Talon 33, so am using a 60l Vango that I used for general 'backpacking' in Asia. I'm keen on an Osprey Stratos 50....any suggestions?
I have a few Lowe Alpines (Crag Attack 45, Appalachian (?) 55 and an unknown retro bag). All have been faultless and comfy - the two bigger ones are older and heavier.
Youngest son has a Vaude Assymetric 55+8 - it is slightly smaller than the numbers suggest . But, uber comfy, really nicely made, seems to be the 'slightly smaller than my hoofing old 60lt+ bags.
Eldest has a Deuter Air contact 55+10 - again a really comfy thing, a but more 'industrial' in design than the Vaude, more like the older Lowe Alpine's.
Nothing beats my PURPLE Karrimor Alpinist 65 of 1993 vintage though. Sadly lost a couple of years ago 🙁
What size do you reckon? Lowe do a handy 45/55, my Osprey Exos 48/58 is a good size and pretty light at under the kilo in 48 guise. I can get 5 days kit and food in that, not really tried it at 58 yet.
Congrats on proposal mate, 20 year anniversary here this Wednesday, bloody flown in!.
I reckon about 50 litres. I like the look of Exos 48, was hoping that the Stratos 50 would just be a less spendy option really. Realistically I get chance for 2/3 multi day trips per year, so it's not something that will get huge amounts of use.
Congratulations on 20 years....I managed 3.5 first time around!
I might still have some 40% off osprey codes, I'll let you know tomorrow, on my work laptop. If not, join mountaineering Scotland, get 40% off 👍🏻
I reckon about 50 litres
I would think similar.
25 years ago I did 3 - 5 days with 60lt, lid 'extended' for extra food early in the week.
Now, with lighter and more compact tent/stove/sleeping bag/waterproofs, I think I could fit in 50lts, with occasional lid extended in cold or extra food.
One I want to try out is a front bag and bigger hip pockets, so 40lt + front .
A few weeks back went with the OH up Bla Bheinn, it stopped raining half way up and turned into a gorgeous evening, On the spur of the moment going back down I decided to traverse Clach Glas. I've done it 40 years ago in the other direction but going down Bla Bheinn to the putting is a challenging route find. The traverse itself surprised me in its sustained difficulty with some very long steep scrambley descents off the summit. Stunning experience.
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Matt, you ever watch RS outdoors on YouTube? He wears a similar looking bag set up, mibbe a bit lower, I'd imagine it can balance weight about quite well, and have good access.
My multi day gear is only suitable for 2/3 season really, so is all fairly small. I've done and overnight with my Talon 33 once, but it was a really squeeze, and I found that it was quite uncomfortable when that overloaded.
@nobeerinthefridge that'd be awesome!
Whilst I've got you.....any recommendations for walking routes in Scotland (very broad question I know!)
GF turns 30 in September and we're doing a 9 day Scotland road trip in the motorhome. There's a chance we'll have our Gumotex Inflatable kayak by then too, so potential to combine a VERY easy paddle and hike. Or just an epic day route? Not got a set itinerary yet....she's mentioned that she'd like to go to Aviemore area at some point though.
Tbh Tom, Matt is a lot more experienced than me!.
If you're going to Aviemore, take advantage of the 600m start and get onto Cairngorm plateau. Lovely wee circuit up onto 1141, stob Coire an-t-sneachda, cairn lochan, Macdui, Carn Etchachan, then over cairngorm and back to ski centre.
Magic.
Then go play on loch an Eilein with the kayak.
Matt is it you that's a fairly experienced peddler actually?
Any recommendations for a couple of new paddlers heading north? I seem to recall you posting some epic pictures involving Seals (not the singer) That'd be just the ticket if it's accessible by new paddlers?
Where are you staying?
How much paddling have you done? Any rivers?
We'll just be checking the weather forecast and driving to Scotland on September 19th.....no firm plans, so are looking for suggestions for hiking/kayaking to influence our itinerary....we'll mix campsites/forestry commission stays with maybe 1 or 2 nights somewhere posh to treat the better half.
We have hired a kayak and paddled it around Coniston a few times. Certainly no rivers! I kayaked a bit in Scouts....we're what I would describe as 'enthusiastic, yet incredibly cautious' with regards to water! The delay in Gumotex shipping is hampering the paddling practice that I'd planned on getting before the trip unfortunately.
Even in september, I'd book your campsites mate.
Ah right 😭
+1 on booking this year.
This list is not extensive or complete, @beamers may know a few more places properly North East too.
On the way up: Loch Ard is a lovely explore, pretty sheltered, paths all round if needed.
Killin, Loch Tay - launch next to hotel (small fee to outdoor shop) and potter down the (flat) river to the islands and sandy beaches. Visit the castle with the hanging mound and tree...
Aviemore with a packable boat - Loch an Eilein should be lovely. I've not paddled there, only swum. Loch Morlich would be busier, but is a nice place. No islands though. @scotroutes must have paddled there.
Loch Maree - a bigger undertaking, but stick to the shore along from launching at the hotel and you can 'hop' between islands, rather than doing a big crossing. By then the birds should have finished nesting and you could land.
Loch Oich - there is a lovely day trip from Laggan Lock on Ceann Loch, down the canal, down Loch Oich (stick to the shoreline for shelter/short swim if it goes wrong), down the Canal again to Fort Augustus. Cycle back the way you came - we locked our boat up to a fence at the top basin.
For sheltered sea paddle - I was taken by Sheildaig bay last week. Just don't get to close to the sea eagle nest...
After that there is a multitude of smaller places, a few sea paddling places (need more tide awareness, but Loch Sween in Argyll is lovely) etc.
Also, if you wanna eat out, book that in advance too, we managed one meal out in a week in Cairngorms last week, everywhere is booked out.
Wow some awesome stuff here! Much appreciated!
Slightly perturbed at the thought of booking anything ahead, let alone to eat out.....maybe we'll just came the pizza oven that week then!
Just got back from checking out some rucksacks at Outside in Hathersage. I really liked the Exos 48, they'd only got the Large in stock, which seemed to fit fine (hard to say 100% when it's basically unweighted) The Osprey sizing app says Medium though....they didn't have that size in stock to compare unfortunately. My head is saying large as it definitely felt a good fit.
I then nipped over to Alpkit and picked up a 650 ti mug thing. My aeropress fits inside it, and inside the netting from my old cheapo pot set the mug, aeropress and mar pocket rocket clone all fit nice and tidy. I've decided that cook in the bag dehydrated meals are the way to go for me. Easiest way of getting enough veggie friendly calories, the Go Outdoor ones aren't too expensive and I quite like the taste tbf! Can carry 4 days worth very easily. The single use plastic element does grind my eco friendly conscience though.
Still trying to recover from Covid so I might have to plan some single hill/very easy walks to get some more summer camping in I think. It's absolutely wiped next out so far!
I could eat the summit to eat Mac cheese every day, give it a bash Tom, it's awesome!. Blacks have them for 7.50 for 2 ATM.
Heading down to walk the bob graham in 2 weeks, over 3 days. Looking forward to it, and keen to recce it for a wee attaimpt at some point in the future. Welcome to join us for a hill or 2 Tom.
When's that? Ordinarily I'd jump at the chance, but really struggling with anything more strenuous than walking a 100m at the minute......worked 6 days most weeks since October looking forward to some me time over summer, and boom taken out by Covid 1 week into my summer off 😔
Edit, just seen that you said I 2 weeks....what dates?
Starting on Skiddaw around 9am on Fri 20th mate.
That might just work you know! Got a fairly mental weekend at home that weekend (we're hosting a hen do, dont ask!!) so I'm fairly keen to make myself scarce! Skiddaw should be nice and quiet that day too 😂
Cool, see how you feel nearer the time, and gimme a shout mate.
Not proper hill walking but a photo from near home walking up a small hill
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Getting out is ace...
@ Tom-B if you want an exos 48/58, I'm gonna sell mine, used it for 4 days in Cairngorms, 3 days in Lakes, still in great nick, otherwise it's going on the bay.
Started off on friday morning laer than usual, as my wifes a nurse and had to do a short notice nightshift on thursday night, meaning we didn't set off up skiddaw til gone 11am. Skiddaw, Great Calva and then over Blencathra in the smog, Halls fell ridge is interesting with zero visibility!. We knew after the late start and shit weather we'd be cutting it short tbh, so just camped in the site east of Threlkeld (bloody noisy btw!).
Then off over clough head etc and up onto Raise, seen the blackness approaching and made the decision to shoot back down sticks pass to the west. Lovely coffee and cake in st johns in the vale, then round by legburthwaite and a lovely wee camp up on walla crag, for half an hour, then it pissed all night, and no views in the morning. 🙂
Still had a cracking couple of days, 35 miles, 11,500' - good times. My mate is a YT vlogger, I'll post up his vid when he fires it up.
Great photo! It sounds like you had a good trip despite the weather.
Halls Fell ridge is a great way up Blencathra. It often gets forgotten about as a lot of people want to go up Sharp Edge (which is a horrible greasy weasel of a ridge).
Aye, was still a brilliant weekend. Came off the summit in a whiteout and I'll admit to coming off just the wrong side of the ridge. Ended up down in a gully a good few hundred from where we should've been, which added a good hour onto the descent, once on the actual ridge path it was cracking.
Greasy weasel is a good description of the way we went, lots of use of the arse crampons!
Halls Fell ridge is a great way up Blencathra
It is. Also used in descent on the Bob Graham at ridiculous speed!
Looks awesome Greg.....gutted that I couldn't make it. I'll definitely have that Exos off you mate, drop me a message with how much you want for it 👍
while the masses were queueing on snowdon, took my boy up cnicht for his first mountain last sunday. saw a handful of people all day.
that's a great proper first mountain for a kid although the numerous false summits are a pain. How many times did he say.. "are we there yet Dad?"
Fantastic Jam-bo 👍🏻
Pen Y Fan Horseshoe last week with camp up near top, his first mountain.
Bit misty then...
Is that an old GoLite?
It's a lanshan copy of a GoLite, has an inner too but we didn't take it.
that’s a great proper first mountain for a kid although the numerous false summits are a pain. How many times did he say.. “are we there yet Dad?”
climb wasn’t too bad but I think he lost the will a bit on the long slog back to croeser from the slate mines.
It's character building 🤔
I used to bring sugared almonds for my nephews, instant sugar hit plus almond goodness to follow
Mega pics guys!
I'm off to check out that tent a_a.....could do with something cheap for a VERY occasional trip with girlfriend plus dog in tow.
I’m off to check out that tent a_a…..could do with something cheap for a VERY occasional trip with girlfriend plus dog in tow.
I got it off eBay for about £100 and then got a carbon pole made to go with it. It's designed to use a walking pole with an extender that comes with it but the extender doesn't fit in my walking poles.
Doesn't seem to be on eBay at moment.
The only problem I've had is that the plastic sleeve which the pole sits in at the top was sown in but that sowing not sealed, some seam sealer has sorted it.
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These are basically a rip off of Hubba Hubba, my mate got sent one to review for his youtube channel, its 500g heavier, but pretty good tbh, he was pretty impressed with it and he's a mega tent geek.
^ How do people get on with those with inner of 210cm?
I have laid out in one of the walking pole Lanshan tents that too was 210cm, and at 180cm/6' tall, my feet and nose were on the inner tent. The Hubba rip-off though has steeper sidewalls.
Current Delta is 220cm and I get away with it.
I don't know about the 3ful version, but in the HubbaHubba, I have acres of space at either end, as you say due to the near vertical ends. I'm 6'1" btw.
Tremendous wee last minute solo day on Arran on wednesday, weather looked great, messaged in for a holiday and popped onto an early ferry. 11 miles, 6000' of ascent and a nice wee flat 8 miles on the bike each way too, grand.
Glen Sannox Horseshoe
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Excellent. Arran is brilliant.
It's fantastic Matt, agreed. Nice and compact, no big traverses between mountains, ridges forever. And 20 mins drive form the ferry. 🙂
Looks awesome!!!
We're heading to Borrowdale this weekend, no real plans to do anything as we're still slowly getting over Covid. Might hire a canoe at some point and maybe try and do an easy hill too.
Mrs_oab and eldest_oab today, while I get to Teams Meet and push pixels around....
Mrs_oab on foot.
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Arran also has one of the best hill name translations - Cioch na h-Oighe - "The maidens nipple"
The one on the left. Just turn your head sideways....
I descended Goatfell with a heavy hangover via the nipple years ago and thought it was a bit sketchy.
I went back the next day to scramble up it - it was good fun but quite tame really. Lesson learned, go easy on the Ardbeg
We did a lovely walk on the Carmarthen Fans yesterday. Pretty quiet up there too
I forgot a couple of ours....
Beinn a' Chlèibh and Ben Lui - I have been driving past for 12 years and kept saying 'must go do..', so we did. Did the reverse to most folk to avoid a line of others ascending at the same time.
Cameron McNeish suggests that Ben Lui is quite 'alpine' in feel - and he is right. See last image, it is a properly straight back down to river ridge.
Not pictured: the nice swim at the end.
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Tis a boggy bugger down by the burn!.
Only heard about this recently, the survivor still works in our place, horrible.
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Did anyone get out on the hills over the weekend?
I went up to the black mountains, started in talgarth, headed up to waun fach then along to a Forrest above the reservoir to test out the new tarp. Tarp was good fun and different, however maybe I should have taken more than the summer sleeping bag! It was on the chilly side!
First time in that area and lots to explore both on foot and on the bike in the future