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Combined, the good motor, brilliant build kit and great frame of the Whyte ELyte 150 Works makes for a fabulous mountain biking experience. Which it s ...
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Interesting - this bikes on4for the first thats really piqued my interest since getting my Orbea Rise owner of 3 years here. Feel the same on the weight and power thing - heavier full power bikes feel like a different thing. Whereas the Rise still feels like everything I always loved about mtb but more so. I rarely use the piggy back - it does feel like it subtly makes the bike worse with the extra weight and where it sits but it's great to have the option for really big days out.
It'd be really nice to see a 'lightweight' slightly more enduro bike on offer but maybe you lose the magic weight by up speccing everything to cope with 160 front and rear - it feels like these bikes have the quality of suspension, but not quite the travel.
Questions.
- Range - approaching 1000m doesn't feel great to me. I reckon on 1200-1400 from my Rise. I'd be really disappointed if I was redlining at 1000.
- You talk about high cadence but what do you mean by that (would be really useful if the manufacturers produced cadence/power curves like suspension curves so you had an idea how the power was delivered)
<quote>Youu talk about high cadence but what do you mean by that (would be really useful if the manufacturers produced cadence/power curves like suspension curves so you had an idea how the power was delivered)</quote>
The bosch sx needs around 100rpm to deliver the full 600 watts
Range – approaching 1000m doesn’t feel great to me. I reckon on 1200-1400 from my Rise. I’d be really disappointed if I was redlining at 1000.
It's really hard to compare range on eBikes, especially between motor manufacturers. My Rise settings at max are likley different to your Rise settings on max. Which means our range will be different to each other too.
Benji.... maybe it's worth quoting not the 'Max' or 'Eco' mode, but the Torque NM and the Wattage settings for the mode recorded. They can then be compared regardless of brand.
It's still a bit of a crap shoot, temperature, body weight, incline etc... all have a huge impact on battery life. It would be great to see a universal measure at some point that's useful in the real world at comparing battery life. Lumens and hours work perfectly for torches....so....
It’d be really nice to see a ‘lightweight’ slightly more enduro bike on offer but maybe you lose the magic weight by up speccing everything to cope with 160 front and rear – it feels like these bikes have the quality of suspension, but not quite the travel.
I'd hazard a guess that putting a slightly longer fork of anything with dw-link, or maybe split pivot, as rear suspension would get a long way there as anytime you see a review of a dw-link bike there are always comments about the surprisingly effective and stable rear end.
That basically means a Pivot bike. Salsa use split pivot but don't have a lightweight yet.
@rickon +1 on this. Comparisons are super hard.
It looks like the new Orbea Rise is just what I'm asking for = 160/150 and unrestricted torque (though still slightly limited power) from the Shimano motor.
Anyone know if the fork is the e tuned one or standard ?