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Following on from their stunning Spark with the hidden rear shock, here’s details of the new Scott Genius with the same sort of tech wizardry.
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By ben_haworth
Get the full story here:
https://singletrackmag.com/2022/11/scott-genius-goes-down-the-hidden-shock-route/
Where did that geo table come from? The press release says HTA 64/65 deg. The table says 67deg.
Well yes, that is genius! It'll keep the shock lasting a bit longer that's for sure. I like
Are they just trying to make all bikes look like e-bikes so e-bikes don't seem so ugly?
Hark, is that the sound of collective bike mechanics looking at that, and not being sure whether to cry into their coffee, or celebrate the minimum 4 hours workshop charge to do anything involving cables or hoses?
It's like a greatest hits of the worst things to work on.
It's a Bold, all Scott did was buy the brand and stick a Scott sticker on it, and why do Scott insist on throwing a tin of spaghetti at the cockpit, unescessary.
Are they just trying to make all bikes look like e-bikes so e-bikes don’t seem so ugly?
It certainly does look a) ugly and b) like an e-bike.
Other than making it more difficult to adjust, service etc it also removes the aesthetic of a nice looking rear shock. The advantage being,,,,???
Bottom of the want list. Proprietary bullshit everywhere!
@Jordan Oops! Inserted the geo table for the Orbea OIz by mistake. Soz. Correct geo chart in there now. Thanks for spotting! #facepalm
Where are they going to put the motor?
Presumably they'll want to retain such a worthy innovation for the electric version?
The number of dead ends that Scott's been down over the decades.....
I dislike the headset routing and extra controls on the bars much more than the hidden shock. I think it looks quite nice but 5he triple controller and headset counts me out.
FFS
It's a farkin MTB, it needs working on regular. Lets sell this to the golfers... whoops, no motor in this monster...
Other than making it more difficult to adjust, service etc it also removes the aesthetic of a nice looking rear shock. The advantage being,,,,???
My thoughts exactly.
The number of dead ends that Scott’s been down over the decades…..
Go on?
Scott launched the 3 stage remote activated carbon Genius platform in 2003, albeit with a pull shock until the v3 launch in 2013 (US Horst patent expiration). The v2 generation included the LT which pushed the mainstream brands for slack HA numbers..the LT like the rest of their bikes have typically always been amongst the lightest bikes in their travel range.
The v1 ransom 2006-2010 was the only other bike to have a proprietary shock but it was a push shock and you could swap out the equalizer for an rp23 with a small aircan. Again lightest bikes in their class by a margin.
Not sure what other dead ends there have been, or if the trac/twin lock with dual chamber suspension could be considered a dead end as it been around for 20 years, hopefully with no plans of them stopping.
Can't say internal/headset routing, or one piece bars/stems are dead ends either when other brands offer the same
I've rose tinted glasses though so might easily be missing some brand clangers?
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It's shock in
All that internal routing and no end to end guides? just foam padding?
Get in the sea.
In the mad rush of yesterday, I think the video was overlooked:
They have gone to great lengths to hide a component that looks cool and never needs servicing. Every time I have removed an air can its been immaculate inside (Fox shocks mainly).
Put a box around the cassette and forks next time 🙂
That said it does like quite cool actually (In a time of really fugly bikes)
The cockpit is awful though
A good idea.
Not enough levers.
Love the Twinloc on my genius, could not care less about the ‘look’ of a cockpit, it’s not something I spend a lot of time worrying about when I’m riding my bike.
Sounds like the adjusting head angle is exactly the same as you'd do on a normal bike - adjust the angles and reassemble with no cables needing cut there either...
It looks decent in my Function over Form mind, but I really don't like the hidden shock or internal cable headaches...appeals to me as something to look at like a poster on a wall, but will be an absolute nightmare to maintain.
I like the clean look and value the keeps s**T of the shock and bearings in winter slop .. But daft money 5 years on the frame. no bearing support and would be a bith to work on.. Dragons den mode ... Im out !
But daft money 5 years on the frame. no bearing support and would be a bith to work on..
Remember to add “proprietary shock” to your list