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Yeh should have kept my mouth shut on that one! haha
**NEW ENTRY SYSTEM KLAXON**
The brave new world is upon us. There will be no more zwiftpower tags to update. From today, we do things differently. Full details below. What could go wrong (possible answers in capitals below...)?
1. From now on DO NOT SIGN UP TO THE TTT ON ZWIFT (YET). Sign up on the STW TTT spreadsheet each week here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
It's quite sophisticated, so any questions about how it works just ask in the thread. Equally, if you see a way it probably won't work, do tell me. I've populated it with people who rode yesterday, but just add your name if you aren't there.
There will be a deadline: 10am Wednesday for now. I plan to bring it forwards.
2. I'll post teams, aiming for Wednesday AM. At that point, I'll also post the wtrl/zwift racepass links and announce which pen each team will ride from - one link for each team, specific to each team, pens might be different. Clicking these links will whisk you through the WTRL site (attaching you to your team) and on to the zwift sign up page, where you should enter your allocated pen. DO NOT CLICK THE WRONG LINK. DO NOT GO DIRECTLY TO ZWIFT.
That's it.
Team entries are in for next week.
7.40pm Thursday, 1 lap of Watopia's Waistband - short, flat, fast.
Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
All welcome. Just add your name if you are not yet on the list. Comments are ephemeral, I'll delete them all ahead of the following week.
Signed up. 8 already on a Friday!
Anyone else have to look up what ephemeral meant?!
Added to sheet but think I'll be out for a couple of weeks, thanks for the organisation @savoyad
Bump. Lots of names already, looking good.
@mbs, @dangeourbrain, @speedstar, @w00dster, @rj2dj - note the new system, sign up here if you'd like to ride on Thursday. ASAP, and by Weds 10am.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Im not going to ride tomorrow night.
I haven't been 100% since getting my jab, nothing major at all just a bit under the weather (might not be connected - might have just got a bug from my sons school). I rode last night and didn't seem too bad but a bad nights sleep and I just feel knackered. Going to take today off, just something gentle if I feel up to it tomorrow and take it from there. No point putting myself in a hole.
Happy to still sort out a plan for MoreSTW if someone wants to take over pull calling duties?
I've taken myself out - was jabbed at the weekend and was doing sort of ok on Tuesday nights pain fest but then lost the will to live at about halfway.
I'm doing an actual ride in the actual outdoors tonight, if that goes ok I'll put myself back in.
LAST CALL! Thursday, 7.40pm, Watopia's Waistband.
Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
We're on 8 riders. So it might be just the one team.
Let's give it a little longer - for latecomers (@mbs, @speedstar, @w00dster are you joining in?) and I also just invited people in the race thread.
Anyone interested, sign up here. Just add your name if you aren't there already: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
If it's your first time, I'll make sure I post all the required info.
Ok I'm in. Think I'll miss it if I don't. Not sure how I'll do without Phil whipping me on!
Still 8 riders, so we'll go with one team. I'm afraid that means no new/last-minute entries this week (unless someone withdraws in the meantime) to avoid too much chopping and changing. It'll be harder to accommodate that with the new system, we need to find the best balance.
STW
@paino
@yanboss
@phil56
@scaredypants
@munkeymadness
@slowpuncheur
@zilog6128
@speedstar
HOW TO ENTER:
No more zwiftpower tags.
Click the "racepass" entry link below. This is specific to this race, for STW only. It takes you via WTRL (you'll need to login) and onto zwift.
When you get to zwift (ONLY via the racepass) enter PEN D.
Racepass, you MUST enter using this: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=Q0lPMGZtdy9nbDNyVHRMdVRCN3kwQT09
Pen D starts at 19:43 (it's 4 minutes behind Pen A). ON TOP of that there will be a start delay. I'll update when that's announced.
Done! It does indeed send you straight to the companion app (on mobile at least) once you log in to WTRL. Neat.
It's working.
Done
No, @robbo1234biking, I entered one team in latte (A) and one in frappe (D). But we're only using one.
And I'm out again. Sorry lads been up with the wee man since the small hours and going to be wrecked by tonight particularly after deciding to do a fastest race instead at 6am 🤪
I'll take that spot if thats ok !
Not sure how I'll be but last nights ride out was ok, albeit electrically assisted.
I'm hoping for trikes...
My warm up was on a trike this morning 😂 I was really hoping it would be the same in the race but sadly not! Wondered what their CdA was...
speedstar
Full Member
My warm up was on a trike this morning 😂 I was really hoping it would be the same in the race but sadly not! Wondered what their CdA was…
Same for me....was disappointed I couldn't race on one.
Confirmed team, start delay 11.5 minutes
So in the pen by 19:43 and off at 19:54:30
STW
@paino
@yanboss
@phil56
@scaredypants
@munkeymadness
@slowpuncheur
@zilog6128
@haloric
All present and correct in the underwhelming new "management interface".
It's fast and flat, there's really nothing surprising all the way round, you all know where the little lumps are. Don't forget the finish is back out in the desert, so there's still a way to go when you leave the volcano and get that "nearly there" feeling though.
Thanks for the ride, all. Sorry to cut & run
Might turn out to be an expensive Easter for me - trainer's gone very notchy and the power's all over the place ... but if I'm lucky it's just accumulated bits of dust/drive belt/brake material (or maybe it's all just magnetic, who knows).
I reckon it has overheated which would make sense as this is the first non-freezing ride I've done in ages. Just maybe a good blowout'll "fix" it for another few years of zero maintenance 🙄
Bit of a quicker pace than usual for me! Good ride though, only 3W shy of my best ever 20 min power for the bit before I got dropped 😂 Was basically just hanging on the whole time, then had to sprint to pass that team which did me in! Slow pedalled and waited for Ant then cruised to the end with him. Knackered me out again just listening to the rest of you do the last km on Discord 🤣
Ha. I was unpacking the suitcase of courage (copyright Paul Sherwen) when I heard you and Ant great each other over discord like you're out for a Sunday stroll. Made me laugh.
@zilog6128 and @haloric you were due a run out with STW, it was good this chance arose. There is such a range of power now in the riders we have that's it's sometimes hard to fit our C's - and some of you are very, very, good at sticking with a fast ride - into STW.
The spreadsheet is reset, entries now open for next week. It's a lumpy one - 2x Harrogate Reverse, 27km. Thursday, 7.40pm as usual. Declare your availability here, preferably by Weds 10am:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Bump. Enter for Thursday here. All welcome (just add your name if necessary):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
SORRY - initially signed up but forgot, MrsP has other plans. Shame; I love climbing hills
🤔 (closest I could get to a chinnyreckon emoji)
Currently on 8 - anyone else make it this week before the 10am deadline tomorrow?
Is a tough course this one!
I'm away from home at the moment and don't know if I'll be back in time for Thurs evening. Hopefully I should have a better idea before cut off tomorrow.
Hi Happy to give it a go - but if you already have 8 I will sit out. Not raced WTRL with STW before but have done it weekly with my club. They just moved outside on Thurs evening and I cant make the earlier starts.
Welcome @djflexure! Any other takers?
We're hovering each week around 8/9 riders which is potentially awkward for team numbers. We might have to choose between small teams and a one-team summer.
I've just signed up.
Just realised I make the 9th so I'm happy to withdraw to make the numbers work unless there are more takers.
There are 10 in now Drew so you are fine - 2 teams of 5!
Yeah either way would work tbh, either we have 1 big fast team that a couple of us will probably be spat out the back of at some point (which is fine!!) or 2 smaller teams, 1 faster and 1 slightly slower paced (as normal)
@yanboss has withdrawn, so we are on 8 (+ 1 maybe).
Let's go with 1 team of 8 for now. But I'm open to rejigging tomorrow if we get up to 10 or more.
So provisionally:
STW
@paino
@phil56
@munkeymadness
@slowpuncheur
@robbo1234biking
@zilog6128
@haloric
@djflexure
I'll keep an eye on the spreadsheet, and post confirmed lineup(s) with start delay and entry link tomorrow morning.
Don't worry @djflexure, he rides for another team on a Thurday night but still does the leg work for us. He's good like that;). Welcome aboard by the way.
Fantastic - looking forward to it - did a short event tonight to make sure my legs can still go at a decent pace after a bit of a training block.Couple of questions
I’ve not logged in on the new system, will a link be posted?
Do you have a discord channel for comms?
What time are we off?
Is there any prearranged plan - 30s/ 1 min turns, ride order, w/kg target to be aware of?
Tx
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Savoyad will post up the joining link in the morning with joining instructions but the new system is pretty easy. Also the start delay.
Discord link here: https://discord.gg/p7pa4cEc
We will use the STW voice channel tomorrow night.
Plan...hmmm... we have been using a plan but as it is such a tough course tomorrow night for a ttt I think it will be a case of surviving the hills and recovering on the flat. Phil will shepherd us around.
What is your Zwift username?
It’s Simon Bach - I’m on the STW Zwiftpower team sheet
Ah yeh - already following!
Lose track of usernames to Zwift names!
Welcome aboard!
Tx - will fit in tomorrow and do what I can
Have not ridden the course much so it will be a surprise 😀
Confirmed team/info:
STW Start delay 4.5 minutes - so in the pen by 19:43 and off at 19:47:30
@paino
@phil56
@munkeymadness
@slowpuncheur
@robbo1234biking
@zilog6128
@haloric
@djflexure
Enter PEN D, via this link: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=clR6WDBFTDNjeXNRclpuRnFDSUdUQT09 (you must use that link! do not go directly to zwift).
It's especially important now that you don't pedal in the pen during the start delay. WTRL have tightened up their enforcement of what counts as an early departure. Stay still!
@djflexure I've seen you arrive on discord, we generally wear the bumbleebee outfit. I assume you know the start process. But ask questions here if you have them. No you didn't squeeze me out, I usually ride in (what is today called) zone 1. The plan tonight is to trust @phil56. Feel free to sit in for a bit, or even the whole race, and get used to your new teammates. If you're itching to get on the front, that's fine too!
@phil56 it's @djflexure's first time out with us, but he's ridden before with another team.
Good luck. Try to stay together over the tops of the hills, we've lost time on here before by splitting on the climbs. But we've also gained time by satisfyingly pulling through and away from groups in disarray on this course.
I can see everyone signed up except @slowpuncheur
Pen D, here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=clR6WDBFTDNjeXNRclpuRnFDSUdUQT09
It’s especially important now that you don’t pedal in the pen during the start delay. WTRL have tightened up their enforcement of what counts as an early departure. Stay still!
Even if you just nudge a pedal to stop your turbo going to sleep?
AFAIK moving within the pen is still ok, it's just that going over the line even slightly early now incurs a serious penalty (at least 2 mins?) whereas before you'd probably have gotten away with it.Even if you just nudge a pedal to stop your turbo going to sleep?
Good ride all! Pretty relentless course although you get a breather on the downhill. Ta Phil! 😃
Thanks everyone - enjoyed my first STW TTT👊
Ouchie. Thanks for dragging me round Phil & others - was continually in the red it seems.
Hope we didn't mess up some other teams, seemed to be a few odd stragglers near the end.
Ant
Thanks all I enjoyed that this evening. Second lap was on my limit on that steep hill.
Sand Sequoias next week (2 laps)
@savoyad I am not on the list of finishers - did I do something wrong on registration?
That was a toughie last night. Good to have you along @djflexure. Sounds more straightforward next week.
I think @robbo1234biking that maybe your zwiftpower account isn't properly connected to your wtrl account. Can you check (in your wtrl profile)? If that is the problem, I know how to spot it in advance next time...
Should be fixed - one digit was wrong. See if you can see it properly now?
Good job you weren't relying on me for the results!
@robbo1234biking try clicking the racepass again: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=clR6WDBFTDNjeXNRclpuRnFDSUdUQT09 The "old" you, but now with no name, is still attached to the team. The real you never was...It might fix itself retrospectively if you try that link again.
Spreadsheet is reset, entries are open for this week. Thursday, 7.40pm
2 laps of Sand and Sequoias, 43km of flat desert and the rolling climb through Titans Grove.
Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
All welcome; just add your name to the sheet if you aren't already there...
Im in - hopefully my registration works properly this week!
I seem to have pulled through into last weeks result now
Yes @robbo1234biking our experiment with the new system, where you fix problems yourself and wait for the database to refresh, was a resounding success. I don't know how far down the line they'll automagically correct the results like that though. I like the chance to correct errors. I also like results to be final at some point...
Now you've fixed it, it'll work from now on. And I now know how to spot that precise issue in future, so it will probably never arise again.
Down as a maybe for Thursday...it may be the only day this week I can head out on the proper bike. Will know Wednesday evening, however if there’s 8 already then count me out.
Hi - I think I've registered in the spreadsheet for Thursday. No sure if it's saved.
Nag nag nag. Share your intentions here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Everyone welcome, including @phil56, @scaredypants, @w00dster, @haloric's Jack, @paul-s, @speedstar, @karnali, @djflexure and so on.
@savoyad apologies for being slow in confirming this week - I have something I need to figure out logistics wise before I can be definite. I should be able to confirm later this evening
I'm in, funny that, I was reading just the pre-review / description for it here:
https://zwiftinsider.com/wtrl-ttt-104/
P.
Sorry, sorry @savoyad - I'm useless
Oot again this week, but a new excuse 🙄 of bad back so all the riding I'm doing is gentle commutes this week. (obviously I also haven't actually had a go at cleaning out my ?overheated turbo since I "failed" the other week)
I’m deep into a training block and knackered but happy to turn out
I'm in - albeit on a borrowed turbo that apparently 'works most of the time'!!!
Sorry on lates this week so no can do 🙁
I’m in
We're on 11, definitely enough for two worthwhile teams.
But also still room for more riders, of any category. Join us here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Teams for later. Still time for more people to join if anyone is lurking/wavering.
Please make sure you use the right entry link racepass below!
STW
Start delay 15.5 minutes, so in the pen by 19:43 and off at 19:58:30
Enter Pen D here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=T3J1b3NmeXZLbjdjand0QW9kTCttQT09
@phil56
@paino
@djflexure
@slowpuncheur
@paul-s
MoreSTW
Start delay 11.5 minutes, so in the pen by 19:40 and off at 19:51:30
Enter Pen A here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=SldSUEZ4d29EK3NLdTg4YXNvckx4UT09
@robbo1234biking
@zilog6128
@haloric
jack
@mbs
@drew
Nothing too complicated tonight. On the flat desert sections we will do pull rotations as we have done previously (aim for 280w):
Robbo - 60 seconds
Martin - 60 seconds
Jack - 30 seconds
Ant - 30 seconds
Zilog - 30 seconds
Drew - 30 seconds
3 w/kg seems to work up the hills for us so once we come up out of the dessert we will switch to blob formation all the way through Titans grove at 3 w/kg until we get back out the other side and again switch to taking it in turns. Second time through titans we will stick with the same plan. Once through Titans if 4 riders are feeling good we will push on but will make that call on the night.
We did this as MoreSTW back in October and got 1:07 - lets try and beat it!
So for someone who has not used the new system before.
Just use the link to join the event, as that like is for Team STW.
Anything else that I need to do?
Ta P.
Had my second Pfizer jab yesterday which wiped me out last night (first one was completely fine).
I feel OK today and will turn out for the TTT tonight but I see there are just 5 of us
#gettingtheexcusesinearly
@paul-s you've done it right - but to recap for eveyone just click the entry racepass link for your team, which takes you to zwift via wtrl (where it attaches you to the team), and then enter the right pen.
Both teams are slowly appearing in the WTRL system now...
Is there a plan for my Team, or is it done on the back of a fag packet just before the start?
🙂
P