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Did you enjoy that first outing Kirky?
I did kind of enjoy it Robbo buy found it pretty tough going. i was convinced i had averaged more watts as i felt pretty knackered towards the end.
Took a while to get a grip of a tendency to yo yo. Something i try to do in races is always being on the power and if i see somebody passing towards the front, following them to close down a potential break as they catapult off the front. took some time to shake that habit and also i have a tendency to surge on moderate climbs as i dont change gear and just grind it out, however this can lead to a short sharp rise in watts and a couple of times I shot off a bit too far in front.
i tried to drag the pack uo the climb but when i saw a gap behind a dropped off to fall back towards Brian and offer my wheel after hed dropped to pull zilog and sean back on.
Hope they were the right tactics even though it felt a bit on off on again at the time and probably lead to undue fatigue.
Its a good course that for a TT and i enjoyed Phils guidance and motivation on helping everybody keep and then finish together.
Im not getting any option to ride outdoors on week days for the time being so will try and join again.
Hope they were the right tactics even though it felt a bit on off on again at the time and probably lead to undue fatigue.
For us, absolutely the right tactics, we're very much in the TTT for the Team bit so would rather come dead last with everyone over the line roughly together instead of dropping riders for a better time. Some days mind someone does go pop but we try avoid it.
i was convinced i had averaged more watts as i felt pretty knackered towards the end.
Not sure if it was as warm with you as it was here kirky but my W were a bit low (they're always low on the TTT due the over under nature of it) yet my HR was noticeably up, felt like my brakes were binding despite the fact there are none on my turbo. I wasn't entirely sure I wasn't having a heart attack by the time I finished on Thursday.
Combo of tired legs and high temp and humidity I guess.
Enter now for this week. Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit#gid=0
It's 2x Tick Tock - so 36km of flat. 7.40pm Thursday as usual.
Name down - thanks
Not a fun course for TTT this week 🙁
Nope - no change of pace, no downs to get a little respite - basically an FTP test. Still signed up though 😂
Sorry I'm out, thought breakdown for the show was Friday but it's after close on Thursday so I'll be at the NEC.
Sorry. Got a corporate football tournament thingy this week. Can't say I'm too disappointed looking at the route. Go well chaps.
Not looking good for this week!
No, it looks like @djflexure on his own, maybe with @yanboss
It's OK to start slowly, there's enough interest overall for it to get establish itself again.
Any more takers? Or shall we skip a week? Speak up now in sufficient numbers or I'll call it off later today...
I was up for it but a positive PCR yesterday (and starting to feel rough!) has put paid to that!
Oh no @zilog6128. I hope you are OK. Look after yourself.
Ta, am double jabbed so hopefully won’t be too bad, just like a bad cold right now!
Hope you keep on the right side of it zilog
This week is a one off for me. Should be OK from next week onwards.
Sorry - I know I've only just started doing them, but with the race series starting I am not sure I can justify more bike time, without it getting in the way of family life.
I'll try & join when I can, but would rather concentrate on the races & workouts for the moment, with a weekend 'real life' ride thrown in when I can.
Call it of for this week - think a lot of people will be back next week
OK let's try again. I've entered for next week.
Thursday, 7.40pm 2x Greater London Flat
Declare yourselves here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
All welcome, if your name's not down just add it to the list
I have signed up!
@savoyad do you know if there is a current list of the upcoming event courses? I had one for the first half of the year. Just wondered what else we have coming up.
It looks like this:
23 September Greater London Flat 29km
30 September volcano flat, 37km
7 October innsbruckring 27km
14 October Watopia Flat 30km
21 October Richmond UCI 32km
4 November RGV 25km
11 November Figure 8 Reverse 29km
18 November Greatest London Loop 26km
25 November Watopia Hilly 37km
2 December Tour of Tewit Well 21km
9 December Volcano flat reverse 37km
16 December Knickerbocker reverse 22km
23 December Greater London 8 24km
30 December Out and Back Again 42km
You can get to it on wtrl/events/filter by future. They sometimes make changes - one of these might be the worlds on a different course I guess, and makuri could be swapped in.
OK, 6 riders so far. Others are welcome to fill the 2 gaps. But for now, the team is:
@phil56
@slowpuncheur
@robbo1234biking
@haloric
@djflexure
@dangeourbrain
Enter pen A here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=WHNqY0d0ZWdOb1Y4MmF2dTZHUW5Jdz09
I'll post the start delay when it's released later...
Start delay 3 mins, so in the pen by 19.40 and off at 19.43 tomorrow.
@slowpuncheur @haloric @djflexure still need to enter pen A here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=WHNqY0d0ZWdOb1Y4MmF2dTZHUW5Jdz09
I'm in for this week
Evenin' all
I'd love to ride this week but I'm under 50% chance of getting home on time
@savoyad if you're still watching this and ONLY if there's a genuinely free space, please can I be a provisional ?
Done that thanks.
Fair warning folks. My legs are jelly today so I might be rather more of an anchor than usual this evening!
Entered.
Another early excuse, more of a PSA - I'm into my second day of man flu, so when/if I start to drop don't even break stride or try to persuade otherwise, I will be in a puddle of snot on the floor.
@haloric There's no reason for anyone to get dropped this evening unless you're feeling really unwell - the course is as flat as a pancake, so just make sure you stay in the draft at 5th/6th wheel and you'll get pulled around.
We cant all be 5th/6th wheel! 🙂
We cant all be 5th/6th wheel! 🙂
I'm pretty sure I've been 3rd wheel since I was born
Sorry guys but going to have to bail out of tonight. Another one under the weather but some kind of bug. Pain in the a*se.
No worries @slowpuncheur, hope you feel better soon. This means you are in, @scaredypants, if you can get home in time.
@drew I'm seeing you as entered, but it's not confirming the start pen. Can you check you are in pen A here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=WHNqY0d0ZWdOb1Y4MmF2dTZHUW5Jdz09
Full lineup will be @haloric, @dangeourbrain, @yanboss, @phil56, @robbo1234biking, @scaredypants, @djflexure and @drew
Start delay 3 mins.
@savoyad that’s odd I’ve not put my name down for anything. I’d love to join in but lower back pain means I can’t really consider it at the moment.
No worries @drew. WTRL is unpredictable sometimes. You can see the phantom entry (yourself only in that view) here probably: https://www.wtrl.racing/ttt/TTT-team-management/ I hope your back settles soon.
That means there is one spare slot available if anyone want to jump in last minute:
pen A, https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=WHNqY0d0ZWdOb1Y4MmF2dTZHUW5Jdz09, 3 minute time delay, the plan is: phil on the front, Brian 3rd wheel, everyone else at 5 and 6.
I might not make it

Pretty extreme pulling a crank so you don’t have to ride 3rd wheel!
Well only getting home 15 minutes before the start did not help this evening!
Cheers all. That Hurt
Sorry about this evening lads - reminded myself of a job for my week off next week though:
Might turn out to be an expensive Easter for me – trainer’s gone very notchy and the power’s all over the place … but if I’m lucky it’s just accumulated bits of dust/drive belt/brake material (or maybe it’s all just magnetic, who knows).
I reckon it has overheated which would make sense as this is the first non-freezing ride I’ve done in ages. Just maybe a good blowout’ll “fix” it for another few years of zero maintenance 🙄
Posted 5 months ago
So, crap workman always blames his tools total lack of maintenance. Again, it was warm in the garage and things started to go weird after about 10-15 min.
Anyone clever at the electronics?
It's not what I thought, seems to be more than just the trainer:
My heart rate also had pretty much simultaneous dropouts down to zero, and surely that connects direct to the PC ?
Wonder if it's my dongle letting me down (I am a gentleman of a certain age, after all !) but I don't see why it should start 15 minutes into a ride. Could it be the PC overheating and failing to receive properly. How would that fit with not seeing the bunch ? (I lost you for what felt like 5 minutes and was just riding at constantish power, speeeding up whenever it said "close the gap" - no idea why that should still show up when you lot had disappeared 🤷♂️ )
Very much doubt its a heat thing, much more likely to be the dongle. How are you connecting bt or ant+? Running discord (bt headphones?) from another device or also pc?
I'd say try another dongle first.
Probably a brief drop of the bt connection and then spiralling from there.
Cheers db
ant+ for everything (trainer & HR)
Yes discord but no wireless for that. The setup worked fine in last week's RobboRace and that was without discord but my connection is wired these days and speed seems to be fine when tested.
It's a "proper" PC and I don't run fancy settings on zwift
Maybe I'll look for a new dongle as that'd be the cheapest fix. I def still need to clean out the trainer innards though
Hi all
Spreadsheet is clear for Thursday 7.40pm.
3 laps of volcano flat - sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
@scaredypants it's possible that it takes 15mins for the PC to get hot enough that it speeds up the internal fans. The increased EMI could be enough to kill the Ant+ signal. Is the dongle direct into the PC? If so try using a shielded usb extension cable to bring it closer.
There are some other tips worth trying on zwiftalizer (load the zwo file from the failed event and see what it says).
thanks nixie - going to try a couple of dodges & see
Dongle is on an extension lead (is it a decent one? try swapping that)
I do have a BT dongle somewhere so maybe I'll try that instead of ANT
have never used zwiftalizer. WIll def take a look
Spreadsheet is clear for Thursday 7.40pm.
3 laps of volcano flat – sign up here:
I'll be a late addition if I'm about and there's a spare slot but assume I'm out for the purposes of planning.
I'm working in Cambridge on Thursday so it'll depend when I get back.
Can’t you just say you have no fuel Brian and therefore can’t get to Cambridge?!
You may jest...
bump. get registered: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Still coughing like a snot filled drain with man-flu, jeez.
Will ride on Tues eve and see what occurs, update Weds.
Looks like we are short on numbers again for tomorrow - seems only 2 of us on the spreadsheet- not looked on Zwift
I’m going to plan to do something else now
See you all soon
Yeah, it's not looking good. Just @robbo1234biking signed up for an ITT at the moment.
Let's leave it for this week. We'll try again next week.
I'm in work on Thursday evening. I might be able to join in next week tho.
Anyone up for this Thursday?
Get sign up people! Here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
I've signed up one team, it'll be 3x innsbrucking (26km) at 7.40pm Thursday.
it’ll be 3x innsbrucking
And with that everyone says 'I'm out!'
I'm in!
I should be good for this week. I've a meeting at 6.15 but it should be done in time for the ttt.
My name is down but feel free to bump me if we go over 8
I'm not going to join in this week.
I have a few days of real outdoor biking to contend with so I'll save my energy for that
👍😃
4, maybe 5 so far - any more takers?
Thurs 7.40, Innsbruckring.
Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
Any of the 2 maybes converted into a yes yet? @djflexure @dangeourbrain
I'll be honest I'm less sure than I was earlier in the week robbo.
Right, i'm not sure how this works but due to no beavers and no guides tonight I'll be available for one week only.
If you're short a pair of legs and i'm not knocking a regular out then i'll be happy to provide some diesel power
Cheers scaled. @savoyad can you post up the info for scaled? Also we need a link.
We are going to have between 5 and 7 riders tonight by the looks of it. Last did Innsbruckring in April and it is around 40 minutes for the 3 laps.
I haven't signed up yet as I'm not sure what the day holds. If I'm back in time and up for it I'll see you on the line.
Right I have a WTRL profile now, just need links for the team, discord and presumably the event in zwift?
Here is the discord link. Savoyad will post up with a click through link which enters you (sign in through work) and the takes you to the event in Zwift companion.
Welcome @scaled!
Everyone enter pen A here: https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift/zwiftsignon.php?id=S0U1MVpVVWFlTGp0cXZSL25jU2xqUT09
start delay is 5.5 minutes - so in the pen by 19:40 and off at 19:45:30
I think the team is @phil56, @slowpuncheur, @robbo1234biking, @haloric, @scaled plus hopefully @dangeourbrain and @djflexure
Has someone explained the start process to @scaled?
Has someone explained the start process to @scaled?
Get in the pen, don't pedal, REPEAT DON'T PEDAL until someone says go on discord?
Dont forget not to pedal...and no crazy breaks of the front like on Tuesday!
I've signed up
P.
Done now, thanks.
I should be able to keep up on the flat, if I can advise anything its to stay close/behind on the leg snapper, and I won't have to die keeping up there.
Sorry I didn't make it folks, only just finished.
Sorry guys, the increase in effort on the leg snapper burnt all my reserves.
I'm never quite sure why we need to increase so much on the climb, but I was in the red for the whole thing - still enjoyed it - got to get the weight down to be competitive I think..
We came 267th out of 534 teams with a time of 41:03 officially.
Our times for each lap were:
13:26
13:28
13:25
So pretty consistent really!
Its a good point Haloric but I dont think it is intentional. Everyone likes to attack the climbs and it ends up a bit like an over under with the climbs being just over. The issue being that we are taking you too far into the red on the climbs.
The good news is that next week is the watopia flat route.
This week is 3x watopia flat - so the flattest 30km that watopia has to offer.
Sign up here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E_0I0hulOaE2y34RpjckVCoT2Jks16vypeZ98L_LUw8/edit?usp=sharing
All welcome, if your name isn't on the sheet just add it.
I'll post the team entry link and full lineup on Wednesday.
Signed up for this week, need all the motivation I can get at the moment.