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I can't believe this hasn't been done but a (limited) search failed to bring up any threads. So does anybody have the weights for XT 11spd and XTR 11spd?
The Shimano webpage doesn't seem to list them which I found surprising.
there probably isn't a huge amount between them. the cassette and the calipers I would imagine have the biggest differences. Crank only saves about 100g IIRC depending on number of chainrings.
Can't help with XT, but have a look [url= http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/02/09/shimano-xtr-m9000-mechanical-groups-actual-weights-detail-photos/ ]here[/url] for XTR.
XT M8000 11-40 cassette - 398g
XTR M9000 11-40 cassette - 323g
...both on my Salter kitchen scales
RT81 Ice Tech 180mm rotor 131g
Rt76 non-Ice tech 180mm rotor 144g
...again on my scales
XTR M988 Trail brakes are actually heavier than a set of Hope Tech 3 e4 brakes
Thanks - Much appreciated.
Whilst not XTR I took the opportunity to weigh the following cassettes when they were both off the wheels last weekend, I was surprised at just how light the SRAM cassette felt and can see how it costs 3 times more.
Weighed using proper old fashioned kitchen balance scales with weights the wife was not too impressed!
XT 11 speed 11-42 weighed in at 439g
SRAM XO1 11 Speed 10 - 42 weighed in at 333g
That's interesting.
Sorry if this is obvious, but is the SRAM cassette compatible with XTR mech and shifters?
Yep.
Yes, the SRAM cassette can be used with Shimano mechs and shifters, BUT, you need a totally different freehub on your wheels to use it and the cassette is almost 4* the cost of an XT and more than double the cost of an XTR.
£121.49 for XTR 11 Speed
£195.99 for XX1 11 Speed
CRC prices
XTR Only gets you 11-40, SRAM is 10-42
no brainer imho
Cheers. I knew there was something. Replacing the hub is enough to make the difference.
the cassette is [s]almost 4* the cost of an XT and more than double the cost of an XTR.[/s] Cheaper
Or 90 quid http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/sram-xg-1150-11sp-cassette/rp-prod135801
394g
10-42
Not exactly sure but the Hope XD Freehub certainly felt lighter than the standard. It also gets rid of any gouging issues.
It also looks better than the XT
It's just the free hub you probably have to replace, not the whole hub
no brainer imhoI agree, I'm sticking with 8 speed 😀
£200 for a cassette...are you guys freaking serious?
For a few grams...really?
**Top of the line kit in costing more than cheaper stuff shock**
🙄
8 speed XTR cassettes were £140 in 1997. Just saying...
Have you seen how much a Fox Evo fork is too?! You could just use a Judy, it's madness.
Top of the line kit in costing more than cheaper stuff shock**8 speed XTR cassettes were £140 in 1997. Just saying...
Have you seen how much a Fox Evo fork is too?! You could just use a Judy, it's madness.
its still £200 for a cassette, a consumable part.
a SID RCT3 is cheaper than a 32 evo.
SRAM XO1 11 Speed 10 - 42 weighed in at 333g
Surprisd it was that much, aren't they supposed to be around 260-270gr.
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When I was looking into it these are the weight comparisons I found -
........................XT......XTR.....X1-.....X01.....XX1
shifter.................145.....116.....121.....125.....125
Rear cassette(11-42)....433.....---.....---.....---.....---
Rear cassette(11-40)....412.....331.....---.....---.....---
rear cassette(10-42)....---.....---.....315.....268.....268
Rear mech...............277.....222.....256.....250.....245
Total:(11-42)...........855.....---.....---.....---.....---
Total:(11-40)...........834.....669.....---.....---.....---
Total:(10-42)...........---.....---.....692.....643.....638
In the end I went SRAM 2x10.
Shimano published weights are here:
http://productinfo.shimano.com/#/spec/1.9/MTB/Rear%20Derailleur
(you'll need to browse around a bit to find everything)
XT 10speed with a praxxis 11-40 cassette would be lighter than XT 11 with the same range.
Wow I'd never looked at the weights of those before, crazy that a £20 basic Shimano 10 speed cassette is lighter.
Shimano published weights are here:
http://productinfo.shimano.com/#/spec/1.9/MTB/Rear%20Derailleur(you'll need to browse around a bit to find everything)
That is exactly what I was looking for thanks!!
So based on those quoted numbers here is what I've found for a 2x11. XTR is 318g lighter assuming I managed exact comparisons (which is a little tricky).
XT XTR
Crankset (36-26) 718 622
Cassette (11-40) 447 330
BB 82 73
Shifters (pair) 244 200
Rear D. 275 224
Front D. 149 148
Total 1915 1597
its still £200 for a cassette, a consumable part
You don't have to pay it. You can spend more than £2k on a push bike. Madness.
My X01 cassette is 264g.
its still £200 for a cassette, a consumable part
With many various alternatives at different prices. The expensive SRAM ones are still machined from one piece of metal, there is not that much they can do with the process to make it cheaper.
The GX (90 quid) is pinned, has the range and it's lighter than the Shimano alternatives.
...and the GX cassette can be had for £75 if you look around (see previous recent thread)
That is exactly what I was looking for thanks!!
Yeah not the easiest format to navigate is it? But a good source all the same, glad you found it useful 😉
Hang on there just read above 26x40? Why it stick with 10sp unless your road racing and hauling trailers? That set up, 1x with the gx cassette would give you the big range
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/
Does not always have what you are looking for but can prove useful.
Dan
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**Top of the line kit in costing more than cheaper stuff shock**8 speed XTR cassettes were £140 in 1997. Just saying...
Have you seen how much a Fox Evo fork is too?! You could just use a Judy, it's madness.
Don't embarrass yourself, judy vs fox is a stupid comparison. To me, £100+ to save 100 odd grams on a consumable parts is nuts, but I don't have money now, at one tone I did, and at another I convinced myself I HAD to have the best.
Sorry I posted, how ride of me.
No one can justify this stuff on any basis other than "I want to and/or I can afford to".
Biking can be so much cheaper, leaving cash for basics or other worthwhile stuff.
No one can justify this stuff on any basis other than "I want to and/or I can afford to".
Of course they can't. But let's take stock here... We spend thousands of pounds on something to ride around a forest at the weekend because it's fun. You'll never justify anything. Different people have a different line where that 'sensible/stupid' line falls.
Acera would be fine. Obviously the Judy comment is tongue in cheek, but 99% of folk would be entirely fine with entry level forks, cheap wheels, etc etc.
Why not just get a 32/34/36 tooth cassette? Oh, you aren't fit enough? THen why are you bothered about the weights to start with? 😉
Just go 2x10' stop being a tart and save yourself a load of cash whilst increasing your gear range. 😉
In terms of the Shimano stuff for the weight and price I couldn't justify it doesn't add much more than the 11-42 cassette I had already converted.
I went the GX route as it added a better range and was a sensible weight/price. I get to choose, I needed a new cassette and chain, the mech was getting on a bit. Was a good deal for the lot compared to replacing a nice spec in 10sp and adapting it.
On top of that the 1x simplicity just works and sells it for me. What I don't get is the OP wanting to know about weights (it's obviously important) then going for the heaviest 2x option?
I'm not sold on the whole 1x thing. I've got XTR 2x11. When my (expensive) cassette expires interested in how weight I'd gain to start switching it to XT. Also sweamrs is still running 3x9 so was interested in how much weight might be saved going 2x11 (doesn't look like enough). She also isn't sold on 1x and not sure Sram will fit her old CK hub even if she was.
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This was the bit that convinced me on the SRAM version, I had the 24/38 Double and working out what gears I was dropping made me happy enough.
What I don't get though is 2x11, seems to have no point really you can get a great range with less overlap in the 2x10 setups, lighter cheaper kit and the rest. No idea how Shimano have also managed to add in all the weight to the cassette considering the GX option comes out lighter.