[Closed] would you? (interfering bastard content).

I can imagine that the "charity" rider might think the other two were somehow linked to the event and I can imagine that the event rules might dictate the use of a helmet.

I doubt I'd start a thread on a forum seeking confirmation of my opinion though.

If some random stranger told me to wear a helmet they'd get an earful.

depends hypothetically what you had for breakfast and if this is a soul searching question about yourself or something about somebody you saw out there....

I'd keep my thoughts to myself. There is no compulsion to wear helmets and they're adults.

Well personally I wouldn't ever tell anybody that they should be wearing a helmet in any situation where it didn't seem necessary - I hope that helps 😉

Seeing as i rarely wear a helmet i doubt i'd raise the issue, i'd be more likely to raise a fist and shout "solidarity brothers - ride free"

I'd stuck a stick in their front wheels then lectured them about putting undue strain on the nhs 8)

I imagine the interfering bastard in question pedalled off sharpish before Ton had the opportunity to point out the error of his ways.

Nope.
No requirement to wear a helmet to go out for a ride on your own.
Riding in an organised group however may require on as part of the RA.

If some random stranger told me to wear a helmet they'd get an earful.

Yep, me too

This is the second thread on this shyte this weekend

When did STW get taken over by Audi driving mid50s Brexit voting winkers?

When did STW get taken over by Audi driving mid50s Brexit voting winkers?

When did STW get taken over by Audi driving mid50s Brexit voting winkers?

Years and years ago......

I'm a strict believer that it's better to be riding a bike and getting some form of exercise than making helmets compulsory.

I always wear a helmet except the odd beach ride on fat bike on sand, they are so light now, but it's not my place to start lecturing others especially if they just enjoying a quiet bimble

Ooh,has there been a coup? Have the usual culprits finally managed to take over,having persuaded everyone that they don't need to explain their gnomic statements,as they are financial gnomes themselves?

Wearing a helmet is a choice, so it's up to them.
I'd just wave and say "hello" to a couple of fellow bike riders.
Perhaps the charity bike rider would start berating others for not having both hands on the bars as well?

And ton,if you and Mrs ton don't want to wear helmets,that's your decision,and interfering busybodies may need an explanation of the benefits of fist pie 😆

Should they have been wearing one of these?

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Their head, their choice, their problem when it goes wrong. Absolutely nothing to do with me.

Only if I wanted to show the world how much I hate myself

It wouldn't bother me either way.

Crikey, brexit being introduced into a thread about helmets? what a surprise. (actually it isnt for this place)

Sounds like UKIP are sorted for their new slogan.

'Helmets for Brexit'

Were you riding near Keswick yesterday by any chance Ton - thought I saw you (with helmet)?

Were you riding near Keswick yesterday by any chance Ton - thought I saw you (with helmet)?

no mate. on the TPT near home.

i nearly lost my temper and went after the bloke to ask him why he had made the comment.
my good lady talked sense into me.

i just cant understand why some people cant keep their thoughts to themselves. wtf has it got to do with anyone else what someone else does or does not wear or do?

Rise above it mate, you did the right thing. There's dicks everywhere, even on here, allegedly....

Why should they be wearing helmets? Are they not old enough to decide for themselves?

Are they not allowed to have a different opinion from you?

Personally, I would stop every member of the charity ride and explain to them that by wearing helmets they were contributing to the myth that cycling is such a dangerous activity when compared to walking or driving that it requires a helmet.

I would berate them for discouraging people from cycling despite all the evidence that cycling increases your life expectancy in the face of the data showing that making helmets compulsory, as in Australia, reduces cycling numbers and even encouraging people to wear helmets, as in Denmark in 2008, reduces the number of cyclists.

I was a bit busy this weekend unfortunately.

I think I'd struggle to care enough that a response would be formulated, let alone voiced.

I have been known to shout a friendly word of advice to commuters riding in the dark, with no lights, and wearing nothing to reflect any other lights, but helmets, nah - up to them.

The only time the helmet thing slightly bristles is when I see adults without helmets, riding with kids who are wearing a helmet. I absolutely get the free choice thing, but wonder what kinda example it sets when you are out with the kids? Still don't say anything tho', I just tut under my breath in a very understated English kinda way and ride on (often whilst not wearing my helmet).

Have to say I'm with you OCB, but it really boils my urine when I see the kids riding with lids on and Dads is hanging off the bars.

but it really boils my urine when I see the kids riding with lids on and Dads is hanging off the bars.

Why?

I think the reply ton should have been, should we aye (whilst cycling on)

Personal choice innit? The only time I've ever questioned anyone was at Glentress years ago. I said to a guy, 'your'e brave, riding without a lid' & he said, well I've come off twice here & broken 2 helmets so I've stopped wearing them anymore'
True story.

Why should they be wearing helmets? Are they not old enough to decide for themselves?

Are they not allowed to have a different opinion from you?

I think you may need to read the OP again....

I'm a roadie. I don't even acknowledge other cyclists, much less comment upon or listen to their thoughts on my attire.

if you were riding in a local charity mtb event, on a sunday morning, and came across a older couple out pottering on their bikes, coming in the opposite direction, would you start telling them that they should be wearing helmets?

No why would you do that?
Probably wave to them and shout hello

I did a hard road ride with a mate last weekend and decided to leave the helmet behind. Love riding without one. He texted me today, jokingly telling me not to do it again!!!

Helmet gestapo 😉

I think I'd struggle to care enough that a response would be formulated, let alone voiced.

This 100%

I wouldn't have given it a seconds thought

Assuming the OP is talking about someone he doesn't know who happens to be riding in the same event as him having a word with two other people he doesn't know, I'm amazed he gives a shit.

Starting a thread about it as well?

It's obvious the OP was on the receiving end, I think the best response is "mind your own, knob head" then carry on with having a nice time.

Correct reply is 'Why don't you have a gum shield?'

🙂 Tsk tsk Ton. at your age you should know better 😉

Nah, best response is "baaaaaaah" - that will confuse them for a while (I suspect most helmet nazis won't ever get it).

obviously it was me and the good lady.

we have just got in from a ride in the dark. 1st of the year, with no helmets.
but big huge bright **** off lights........ 😆

i just cant understand why some people cant keep their thoughts to themselves.

But you needed your wife to stop you doing exactly the same 🙂

no, i was just going to explain to him nicely why we were not wearing helmets.

I left it at your mum's house is my standard answer to that sort of thing. Absolutely childish, but always makes me smile.

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no, i was just going to explain to him nicely why we were not wearing helmets.

So why weren't you ?

because i am a 51 year old bloke, who has cycled since being 13 years old, and thus far have yet to fall off my bike whilst pottering at 10mph.
and if i had the misfortune of being hit by a car whilst pottering on my bike a 10mph, a flimsy plastic shell would do very little to stop me being injured.

[quote=OCB ]The only time the helmet thing slightly bristles is when I see adults without helmets, riding with kids who are wearing a helmet. I absolutely get the free choice thing, but wonder what kinda example it sets when you are out with the kids?

I found a good solution to this one - I usually ride a unicycle with my kids when they're riding their bikes. Clearly a unicycle is different and you don't need a helmet. Worked fine until youngest learned to ride a unicycle.

Tony, a guy I worked with, about our age, mad keen MTB and road rider, a few years ago died when he fell, somehow, riding at about 10mph, on way back from local shop when on a family holiday. Investigation reckoned that his head caught edge of pavement and lack of helmet was contributory to outcome, though not the reason he fell.....

Why not just wear one ?

Why not just wear one ?

because i choose not to. no other reason.
i like to wear clothes that i am comfy in whilst cycling. i dont want to wear clothing that people think you should wear because you ride a bike.

Fair enough 🙂

because i am a 51 year old bloke, who has cycled since being 13 years old, and thus far have yet to fall off my bike whilst pottering at 10mph.
and if i had the misfortune of being hit by a car whilst pottering on my bike a 10mph, a flimsy plastic shell would do very little to stop me being injured.

Ton wears one offroad though, I know cos I've seen him.

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😀

always have worn one offroad. where my chance of falling off it pretty high.

[quote=ton ]always have worn one offroad. where my chance of falling off it pretty high.

risk assessment innit? I reckon you've got it about right (I note I even wear one on a unicycle when off-road 😉 )

^^ whilst I agree, its most often the unexpected and innocuous ones that do most damage ?

Oh, and clip up your backpack and pop on a pair of gloves too please 🙂

Gloves? That really is fighting talk. I never wear gloves to ride a bike unless I need them for warmth.

As for unexpected and innocuous ones, the same goes for lots of other activities we do which don't "need" helmets.

But one needs gloves for even washing the dishes surely ?

You have to admit no helmet looks cool

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Thought I must admit these days I wear one on and off road.

^^^^^Is that Fabio Casartelli?

And Tony in yellow?

millar, delgardo, big mig. i may be wrong.

[s]Millar[/s] York, Pensec, Chiappucci

told you i may be wrong. 😆

What year was that?

1990

1990 TDF

Edit : damn....outsprinted for the win yet again.

I think it was TdF 1989 Superbagneres.

No I'm wrong. 1990 it is.

1990. lemond took the jersey from chiapucci on the last day.

I've had car drivers shout at me ( usually after I have remonstrated with them for poor driving) for not wearing a helmet but never another cyclist. Some weirdos out there

tch TJ - we're discussing the 1990 TdF now.

Pic is ALpe d'Huez

Deffo Millar and Indurain, don't know who the yellow jersey is, not Delgado as he's riding a Lemond?

I digress.

1990 you say Tony?

Wasn't Casartelli the one who came off & bumped his nut in the 95 Tour & consequently popped his clogs?

MJ is definitely Pensec - still don't think that's Indurain, though I was wrong about Chiappucci as it is a Banesto jersey. But just to come back to the earlier discussion, every pic I can find of Indurain he's wearing gloves (and he seems to wear a watch on his right wrist).

York, Pensec, Rondon

Sorry back on track, no more Tdf waffling... When nosey, interfering, opinionated b'stards give me unsolicited advice on helmets my answer is 'but you're not wearing a life jacket'. The response is usually along the lines of 'well I don't have to' followed by an 'oh....' from me.

I'm capable of choosing all the things I need to choose including which shoes to put on and what colour pants to wear. If helmets were mandatory,fair enough, comply. They're not, so do your thang and interfering busy bodies sod off.

Incidentally, whether or not you should wear one is another (endless/pointless) discussion entirely.

Have to say I'm with you OCB, but it really boils my urine when I see the kids riding with lids on and Dads is hanging off the bars.

This is the only unacceptable place for a helmet to be - on head, fine. Left at home for convenience on a low risk ride - fine. But why people would go to the effort of taking one with them and then not wear it I can't understand.

Anyway, you did right not to ride after them, being a loud mouthed opinionated idiot isn't, luckily for many of us, a crime.

York, Pensec, Rondon

you saying that isn't Millar at the front?