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Interesting Northwind, I am complete opposite to you and wouldn't touch bigger than 4". I ride my fatty hard, in fact will be racing it in some local enduros at some point over the next few months. I am running 120mm Blutos on 710's with Nate upfront and JJ 4.0 rear. I give the bike a hammering, downhill trails the lot. (Accepted that's a hammering in fat bike terms not full on enduro Brrrappping) I ride with some guys who also ride pretty hard all on 4.0's. I run at 7psi front and rear with a 85kg rider weight. I love the 4.0 jj on the rear, it has just the right amount of grip on the rear whilst being predictable when it finally lets go. That's now been used in dry and dusty to soaking wet slop fest. The Nate on the other hand, I am really struggling with. I had thought I had found the perfect tyre combo. But recently I have had the front wheel wash out at speed, now that could have and probably would have with any fatty tyre, but I am pretty convinced there should be something better. I looked at the minion fbf but have dismissed it due to its size. If they did it in 4.0 I would be all over it... Are you running your tyres tubeless? If you are running tough trails with 4.0 tyres and tubes at around 7psi you are definitely going to get pinch flats. Obviously no such issue without tubes
@Russyh I'm running tubeless on 80mm rims but I've still pinchflatted my old 4.0 JJ (you can pinchflat a tyre even without a tube). And it doesn't stop rim dings either. You may be the only person I've ever come across that likes the 4.0 JJ in the wet!
Like I say, I'm not saying 4.8 is better, just that it's better for me. But having the choice and futureproofing of big tyre clearance and hubs is always going to be a bonus.
Thing about the Minion (and Bud, and no doubt others I've not used) is, they're big but they're not slow. I've not used a 120tpi Nate for comparison so this is a bit unfair but both those 4.8s are [i]way[/i] faster than a 60tpi Nate, and have better grip in a lot of circumstances. They're heavier, of course, and they're sketchier on standing water/thin mud and draggier paddling in water but unless you've tried a big tyre I wouldn't rule it out.
I think it's a bit unfair because most new tyre development seems to be thrown at bigger tyres, so you end up comparing with older designs. There's rumours of a 4.0 Minion but I don't know if there's any truth in that.
just to clarify I only like the 4 Jim on the rear, wouldn't want one anywhere near the front end in damp stuff. However some of the fat bike racers I know use them for everything. But they are much more talented on a bike than me.
As for Nate I ran 120tpi Nates front and rear, I found them too draggy. I run one upfront as frankly it's the best tyre I have found in terms of grip, but I find it pretty awful on wet roots, slabs etc. Pretty good in mud. I am hoping maxis bring out the 4.0 minion as that will almost certainly be my next port of call. Just can't see any scenario where bigger than 4.0 would be better for me other than snow and sand of which I see very rarely. Even at battle on the beach which was my only sand based riding event there was no need for anything bigger.
As you say what works for one probably doesn't for another.
Thing is though, you're talking about a lack of grip on wet roots, slabs... And your riding doesn't sound so different to mine. And that sort of thing is exactly where the bud and fbf kick ass. OK it's possible that you'd like a 4.0 more but I'm pretty confident you'd find the 4.8 does what you want, today. It's not specifically about the volume, it just happens that the Bud and Minion are fantastic tyres, and are only 4.8.
Coastkid could probably recommend some others? I'm a tyre nerd but chances to properly test fatbike tyres are pretty few and the price means I can't really experiment as I'd like to. Also, most OE builds come with fast, light tyres for marketing reasons not the grippy beasts we probably want.
I must confess to being a bit of a tyre whore myself. It's like some kind of rubber fetish. I know that butcher grid front and purg control rear works perfectly for me across virtually every condition. But yet I still blow money trying other combos (that said I have a new favourite in Magi Mary and Rock Razor)
Maybe I should try the 4.8 minion up front, expensive mistake to make if it's not what I want though!
Edit double post
Not sure if I'm allowed to post here as my fatbike (Surly ICT) cost more than £1K 🙂 I've also not had much experience of 4" tyres, bar a short demo ride that I didn't enjoy, but it's a subject that interests me.
The biggest surprise for me was that my ICT on 4.8" JJs is stupidly fast. I mean really stupid. Even now the honeymoon period has presumably expired I'm still setting personal records up climbs that I've done multiple times on much lighter bikes (this thing weighs 34lb!). It makes no sense.
But, everyone knows that 4" tyres are faster than 5" on trails, so I'm tempted to give them a go. The ICT Ops comes with 4" tyres, so the bike is presumably designed for them. But then I think about it some more and I struggle to see a reason to go any smaller. Presumably I'll need to run higher pressures, so less grip and less comfortable. The BB will drop by 1", so (with the wide Q factor) that presumably means more pedal strikes.
I could see the point if I was getting frustrated with how slow the 5" tyres were, but these JJs seem to be half rubber and half witchcraft.
My Wazoo could almost be called "Frankenfat's lovechild" at the moment, I have a Fat not fat rear with a 700x35c Randonneur Pro and the default front with a 4.0 snakeskin JJ! 😆
Ordered a problem solver RDS to FDS rotor converter from Triton, so I can install the 29er front wheel and wait for a DFS carbon fork deal (plus let my bank balance recover after recent extravagant spending).
I could see the point if I was getting frustrated with how slow the 5" tyres were, but these JJs seem to be half rubber and half witchcraft.
Ime the 4.8s are faster than the 4.0s or more specifically they roll noticeably easier. There was some science on mtbr to the effect that the fat tyre contact patch is lateral and the fatter the tyre the more lateral it is. Hence the grip without the drag. My empirical testing backs this up. The 4.0s are more nimble but they're a step closer to thin tyres and they feel that way. Pressure is more critical and although they can be made to feel almost as fast as the 4.8s they don't have the same easy-rolling nature.
Glad someones else is enjoying the rocketship climbing ability. I felt as though I was cheating at first but I don't care anymore 😀
Thanks. I'll save my cash then 🙂
Question for you Nobodyofthegoat, I'm not planning on upgrading to 4.8s on my Wazoo any time soon so is there a carbon fork you would recommend?
I'm think I'm thinking new stem, riser bars, forks & seat post eventually (if/when cash becomes available)
dahedd, the only one that fits without DIY or a new front hub is the carboncycles one, which is a fair bit heavier than the P-X (quoted weights, anyway) as it has an alloy steerer compared to the P-X's full carbon.
http://www.carboncycles.cc/?p=1661&
Straight steerer fat forks of any material are few and far between, nevermind looking for carbon, as far as I'm aware. 😉
Choices I know of are...
http://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&c=105&p=1780&tb=001
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FOOOCFAT/on-one-carbon-fatty-fork
http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/frames-forks-c6/rigid-forks-c51/sarma-hoboy-carbon-fat-bike-straight-fork-p11590
Option 1 would fit your default FDS (front disc spaced) wheel
Option 2 would not, you either need to lathe the disc mount by ~4.8mm, or buy an RDS (rear disc spaced) front wheel eg. those custom Hope Pro 2 Evo Fatsno QR at http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/hope-custom-mtb-disc-front-wheel/rp-prod63716 because the fork is RDS, or grab http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WFOOFAT/on-one-fatty-front-wheel (they were ~£40 a few months back)
Option 3 no idea on spacing
I bought one of the last two sets of FatNotFat 29er wheelsets last weekend from PX, despite no warning in the marketing blurb, the front wheel is RDS. So I'm waiting on http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/frames-forks-c6/frame-fork-spares-c152/problem-solvers-fat-fork-disc-adaptor-p11825 to fit the front wheel and have the rotor inbetween the disc calipers, instead of ~4.8mm closer to the hub centre! 😆
Cheers lads. I'll stick to upgrading to carbon bars & seat post for now I reckon. Would love a set of Lauf forks but they cost more than the bike did. Time to win the lotto.
After months of only showing them on their Ebay site, Halfords finally have the 18" model showing on their own site for [b]£400[/b] (before BC discount or Topcashback)...
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/mountain-bikes/voodoo-wazoo-fat-bike
Do it, do it now... If you are fatty curious! 😯
I'm going to sell my Felt DD 30 size M with less than 15 rides for around £850. It's a great bike but I got the wrong size...if anyone wants more info just drop me a line at gonzalo.master30 at gmail dot com
Anyone know how big a tyre can be fitted to the Wazoo? Thinking it might be good but but would prefer the option of something bigger than 4" if fancy it
Looks like we might be seeing an possible fancier trick dune? Bright green, single ring, external bb??
Had a Charge Cooker Maxi 2 for about a month now (£879 from evans) and it is ACE. It's reinvigorated my love of cycling,
I've been riding it stock (with a set of Nukeproof pedals) for the first outings, but stuck my 777mm Carbon bars on and my Thomson dropper and headed up to The Lakes today. Whilst it isn't as much fun in the air as my 150/140mm trail bike, pretty much everywhere else it excels. Climbing is great, on the loose climb up to Loughrigg it just gripped and gripped until my legs gave in.
On the descents it is ace on the loose stuff, corners like nothing else I've ridden and (unless I pick a terrible line, which did happen today) seems to levitate over rock gardens.
A friend has just got a Voodoo Wazoo and he turned up on it yesterday. It's the first time I've seen one in the flesh, and I must say I'm impressed. An absolute bargain for £400 odd.
I'm really having a blast on mine Tillydog but it definitely needs riser bars to stop my back hurting. Also tell him to check out the seat post, its massive, I chopped a chunk off mine.
Looks like we might be seeing an possible fancier trick dune? Bright green, single ring, external bb??
Shit. I love that green. I'm going to end up with Dune envy all over again.
it definitely needs riser bars to stop my back hurting
Yeah, we were debating the merits of riser bars vs a steep stem! 🙂
Both mate. Shorter stem & riser bars
slimjim78 - MemberShit. I love that green. I'm going to end up with Dune envy all over again.
Relieved to find I still prefer the yellow 😆 Be interesting to see where they go with this though, it makes total sense- the frame was obviously designed for upgradability and way exceeds the needs of a £500 bike after all. I'd kind of expected a minor upspecced model at around £750 with proper brakes and gears but this looks like it might be a step above that too. Maybe to join the Bossnut as an eyecatcher?
Ooh, probably shouldn't have clicked on that link 🙂 That does look lovely. It depends on the geometry, but if it's a 190/150 setup that can take 5" tyres it could be very interesting.
I'm assuming just the same frame so 150/197 and takes a 4.8 though the rear might not take a full 5 (a Bud is a little tight, on tyre height rather than fatness so it'd depend on shape). Mine is on 4.8 minions each end but has had a Bud and a 4.8 JJ in the back too, no bother with any (the Minions are pretty undersized, because Maxxis)
Minions in the winter, JJs in the summer should suit me fine. But would those bright yellow Maxxis logos clash with a green frame 
I'm thinking if selling my dune and going 27.5+ not sure what it's worth tbh. Vvgc comes with longer than standard seat post, lightweight tubes, fitted with floaters but have a set of jjs too, deore hydros, and mucky nutz fenders. Rest is as standard. Any idea on price to ask. Ta
£300.
Several weeks in and I'm still loving the Minion FBF on mine; superb grip everywhere and no issues with it being at all draggy that I'm aware of. Still happily cruising around on group rides.
I can also say that the initial impressions of it holding a straight line across mud have been maintained. It stays pointing straight ahead across squirmy mud better than any tyre I've used, fat or conventional.
Although a tight fit initially and needing hefty over-inflation to seat it, the tyre bead now sits well up on the lip of a Halo Tundra rim, not falling back in at 6.5psi so far..
Happy days.
On the down side, my (£33) Decathlon dropper post died last week, just over a year in; the bottom end of the push rod separated from the mechanism inside the cartridge, so the under-saddle lever is ineffective. I can't see how to fix it back into place, so I'm back on a normal post for now. I'm not really complaining at that price.
firestarter, is that a medium or large?
It's the original medium sized mate.
Highlandman the minion sounds like the tyre I've been looking for. Did you go 120tpi or 60 tpi?
What forks are you running? Not sure if 4.8 will go in my OO carbon forks.
Would the specialised 2.4 tube be safe in a 4.8. It looks very happy in a 4.0.
I'd have figured on more zippy tbh with the extra. I guess I could sell the jj separately too
But would those bright yellow Maxxis logos clash with a green frame
Are you kidding? That, my friend, is Neon Rasta.
It's the original medium sized mate.
Shame, would have been interested if it was a large.
No worries mate
Are you kidding? That, my friend, is Neon Rasta.
Cool, I'll get me some dreads and roll myself one of these then I'm good to go.
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Jumbo Jim 4.0 snakeskins for £54 (~£52 after using Topcashback)...
Finally used the Wazoo in skinny mode to commute the last two days, feels so nice to be riding again after a pants mid summer health-wise! I can definitely use the ~69 gear inches gear (6th sprocket with large chainring on default setup) more on the flatish sections more in skinny mode (~72 GI using JJ), but I'm missing the lovely cushioning of the ~28/30PSI JJs. Somehow, the 700x35c Randonneur Pros feel harsher and more draggy.
Zippy, I'm on the O-O steel fork and there's loads of room for the Minion FBF, once you get the tyre in past the brake caliper! Looking at the frame, it would be a tight squeeze to get it on the back though.
The tyre is the Exo casing and I think 120tpi- bought form a UK tyre firm, not a cycling specialist, whose name I've currently forgotten. Google it. I'm using full size On-one and Surly tubes and haven't used anything lighter yet. The Minion did not seat correctly onto the O-O rim, dropping off the bead and back into the rim bed at 12psi. To get it down to desired 6.5-7 psi I've had to change to a more hooked rim, the Halo Tundra.
I've banged on about the FBF elsewhere but it's a long thread; totally recommended, it's ace. The 60tpi version seems a false economy, it's really not much cheaper usually.
FBR seems good too but it's less grippy (and less draggy) than you'd think to look at it. Not what I was expecting, so far. But I've not had a chance to try it in proper filf yet.
Anyone tried a Fat-B-Nimble on the rear yet?
I'm still on the original Juggernauts and keen to find out if they really are more draggy than the chunkier alternatives.
I have, was OK quite a heavy (think around 1300g) Rolled well. But in my opinion is not as good all round as a Jumbo Jim. My tyre came slightly misshaped as well I should of taken it back to the shop but never bothered and is still hung up in the garage. Managed to get it up tubeless easy enough as well if i remember.
Am I right in thinking that the £20 pink/brown/white On One Floaters left in stock are heavier and perform differently to the £30 standard black ones?
Merlin Cycles have the Felt range including fatbikes with 20% off, plus an extra 10% off at the checkout this weekend.
Makes the DD30 a pretty decent spec for ~£935 less Topcashback https://www.merlincycles.com/felt-dd30-fat-bike-2016-87198.html
Has the Reid Boss been covered somewhere in this thread, read the first few pages on the £500 bikes
Edit: see the separate thread now. Though I don't believe they can be had for 200!
How does 60 tpi v 120 tpi affect a tyre?
My 2 120 tyres are comfier than my 60tpi tyre. However my 60 tpi doesn't self steer.
I appreciate I'm comparing 3 different tyres from 3 different manufacturers.
Surely you want to have "strong"sidewalls to keep the tyre pointing the same way as the wheel?
Looking at adding to my tyre mountain. The minion 60 tpi weighs the same as a 120 and is £25 cheaper. I would assume a 4.8 tyre will already be comfy so I might as well go for rigid sidewalls.
Am I missing something?
Dahedd (and others), I hope you see this update, the Knuckleball bars are £34 today at PX and the El Guapo Corto stem is back down to £21.
Fatty carbon forks are a crazy £89
Bung for above fork is only £5
Front Fatty wheel that is RDS like the carbon fork is just £34
Some decent tyre deals too, black Floaters down to £21 each, very suspect £1 each Vee Missions!
I've restrained myself to the forks; bung; front wheel; along with a set of rotors for £10 and some Muc-Off wet lube to get an order in for my "must have" items. Partially because I'm concerned there may be a website-wide pricing error.
But there are so many other bits that I'm looking at for a possible second order as "would be nice/handy to have," my bank balance is going to suffer. 😆
Never noticed the carbon forks but I reckon I spent enough as is. New bars, grips, stem & tyres.
Dunno if you noticed on one of the many Wazoo threads that I linked a pic of a Lefty fork on a Cannondale fatbike. Wonder if that would fit a Wazoo.
zippykona - MemberHow does 60 tpi v 120 tpi affect a tyre?
My 2 120 tyres are comfier than my 60tpi tyre. However my 60 tpi doesn't self steer.
I appreciate I'm comparing 3 different tyres from 3 different manufacturers.
Surely you want to have "strong"sidewalls to keep the tyre pointing the same way as the wheel?
Looking at adding to my tyre mountain. The minion 60 tpi weighs the same as a 120 and is £25 cheaper. I would assume a 4.8 tyre will already be comfy so I might as well go for rigid sidewalls.
Am I missing something?
TBH it's not so simple, different tyres perform so differently, it's hard to see much in common between say a 120tpi Bud, Minion and Jumbo Jim. Construction is so much more than plies.
Buuut... As I understand it, all other things being equal, 120tpi is more pliable, and that generally adds up to less rolling resistance. WIth fatbikes you have so much tyre deformation going on that if the tyre isn't deforming fast enough, you're essentially pushing along a bow-wave of rubber. It's the reason they're surprisingly easy to pedal while going slowly, but then the drag ramps up as you "catch up" with the tyre. Hysteresis, is the posh name, tyre lag essentially.
Your self steer isn't a ply thing, that's tread and pressure- mostly tread I think and then once you have a selfsteery tyre pressure affects how much you get, seems to be how that works.
Any more news on the potential Dune plus? Really tempted to just get a dune or a wazoo whilst the price is down.
Emmenthal wheelset was £144 in all flavours earlier at PX, ~2900g for the pair, which makes them ~500g lighter than the default Wazoo set i think. Not just about weight though, those El Guapo hubs might be better long term.
Anyone else tempted by the Selcof carbon post for £35?
Is the post on the wazoo 27.2 or 31.6mm?
n0b0dy0ftheg0at - MemberEmmenthal wheelset was £144 in all flavours earlier at PX, ~2900g for the pair, which makes them ~500g lighter than the default Wazoo set i think.
<Duneists vs Wazooers>
Upgrading to the same rims we get as standard 😉
Nice light hubs and spokes though if those numbers are right, the rims are 930g apiece so the rest of the wheelset is doing well.
Is the post on the wazoo 27.2 or 31.6mm?
I vaguely recalled (crashtestmonkey?) comprehensive post about weights and sized saying 31.6mm, but on Sunday afternoon, I went down to the garage and I'm fairly sure that my post had 31.6mm stamped near its base.
But if you are thinking of pulling the trigger, do check for yourself and don't blindly trust my word. 😉
I think that Selcof carbon post has less layback than the default Wazoo, something like 20mm vs ~35-40mm. I'm tempted, but I'm wary of my ~88-90Kg weight when all kitted to ride (some carbon posts I've seen suggest 75Kg rider limit), it's hard to know how suitable it is for anything more than tarmac or very light off-road, plus will I notice its benefit (maybe with my skinny wheels/tyres, I suspect not with JJs)?
Upgrading to the same rims we get as standardNice light hubs and spokes though if those numbers are right, the rims are 930g apiece so the rest of the wheelset is doing well.
So the Dune wheel rims are the same as these One One Emmentals, but not the same as the Wazoo rims?
The Emmental/El Guapo wheels, even though the Shimano versions are £50+ cheaper than I've ever seen, are now a non-starter for me (or as least I think they are). If my Carbon Fatty Fork arrives, it has Rear Disc Spacing, while I think these wheels are Front Disc Spacing... But then the FatNotFat wheelset blurb did not mention spacing and I had to get the adaptor to make the RDS front wheel fit the FDS default Wazoo fork! Plus I should have an RDS front Fatty wheel arriving for £34, allowing me to run fat or notfat with the carbon fork.
Fatbike standards- even better than normal standards.
Yeah, the Emmenthals are a pretty standard OE rim, same as on the Dune and a ton of others, they're also sold as POG on ebay and I've heard it's the same extrusion as the Halo Tundra- though, I don't know if that's true. Not bad kit at all tbh, heavy but solid enough, slight pain in the arse to do tubeless but I got it working grand with foam.
Out of curiosity, while getting my fat wheels operational again (which included being a little OCD and wanting to put the SV13J tube on the rear and the SV13F on the front), I decided to weigh the default Wazoo wheelset, to compare against those Emmental rim with El Guapo hubs (only 1 set of the QR 135/170s left btw, that fit the Wazoo)...
Front ~1570g (Formula Oro 180mm adds ~140g, rotor bolts estimated 50g, skewer not weighed yet)
Rear ~1756g (Formula lightweight 160mm adds ~100g, bolts est. 50g, CS-HG31-8 11-34 est. 334g, skewer ~100g)
I'm a novice to this weighing bike stuff, so that thick green rim tape is in place and the rear hub has plenty of grease in it, plus I was rather slack not getting actual weights for the rotor bolts and cassette! 😉
So the PX wheelset is ~1431/1498g, so ~397g lighter.
Has anyone seen anywhere this side of the Atlantic selling Maxxis Minion FBF in 4.0 flavour?
Promise this isn't a stealth ad. Advice required. Going to sell my Dune (new bike coming, strict 1 in 1 out policy and I've decided I prefer chubby to full fat). It's been massively upgraded and my instinct it to replace the original parts to sell. They're only one ride old and as it's a 'cheap' bike, I reckon I'll do better selling it without a massive price hike for XT 10 Speed, Reverbs, etc...
I've got all the bits in the shed, might start to swap stuff back later, but any thoughts welcome.
Alex
There's a std Dune on eBay failing to sell at £450, a bit high when it's possible to get a new one for around that figure.
I think I'd try a price as std and upgraded and see what interest you get.
Minion 4.0 is arriving in January.
@jeff thanks. If it goes back to std, I'd let it go for way less than £450.. that's mad. Think I'll stick in the local bike shop with a FS sign and see if anyone wants to take a punt..
Interestingly, the Dune is now listed on GoOutdoors website with a 'more colours' banner, although there's no way to select anything other than yellow, yet....
I know I've read about this earlier in this HUGE thread, but can't find where - so I apologise for getting you to cover old ground...
I've started to get side to side play on the rear wheel of my Dune. For those of you who have stripped the hubs already, did you experience anything like this? If so how did you solve it?
Cheers
Check the hanger bolts in the first instance as mine felt like there was play but it was just the hanger.
I'm thinking about getting back into fatbiking and these two models fit the bill. Which one would you suggest is the best to slowly but fairly inexpensively upgrade over time ? Or am I better off getting a second hand fatty? Thanks.
Depends on what bits you have in mind to upgrade, unfortunately you have missed the best prices at PX in their current sale for most fat components. I paid...
£89 carbon fork
£5 fork bung
£34 front fat wheel for above RDS fork
£40 Knuckleball "chewy" bars
£20(?) El Guapo Corto stem
£150 FatNotfat 29er wheelset (so regret not buying these @ £120 around Easter)
If you can afford to splash out £1k in one hit, I think buying the new SRAM NX1 Fatty Trail with a Bluto fork is an excellent buy.
If you look around on Wiggle, Hargroves, Merlin etc. there are some other fatbikes that have had decent discounts recently, such as Felt and Charge brands.
I was hoping to spend about the dune cost and slowly upgrade from there. I have 99% parts right now apart from wheels and I thought the dune wheels were ok? It seems the choice between the wazoo and dune is quite tight.
Maybe I'm biased but I'd say if you're planning upgrades, the Dune is the best budget buy out there by a long way. It's got a really good core, dressed in some absolute rubbish parts- but it's all modern standards, 150 and 197mm bolt-throughs, a quality frame all round that'll take 4.8 tyres and a bluto without really changing anything and do anything you ask for it. And the wheels are decent if a bit weighty, the tyres are quality (not to say great, I've not used the kendas but they're worth money if you don't like em).
I'm probably into mine for about £1250, maybe as much as £1500, and tbh I don't see anything else that I'd rather have for that price.
The Wazoo makes more sense out of the box but IMO doesn't have anything like the same potential.
Thanks Northwind sounds good. Now just to find either new or second hand.
Re the question about Dune rear wheel movement, first check the gear hanger bolts are still in place/ done up and I believe Northwind ate his bearings a couple of months before my Dunes rear bearings were consumed. Can't remember the race nos. but readily available, cheap and easy.
Oh sorry, missed this one.
maksogun - MemberI've started to get side to side play on the rear wheel of my Dune. For those of you who have stripped the hubs already, did you experience anything like this? If so how did you solve it?
I'd check the mech hanger too, mine came loose (it came with too-short bolts which I think has been fixed on newer models). But yep, the bearings in my rear hub were proper shit. Not a big deal, it's a really simple hub to work on and the bearings are cheap. IIRC I used a Hope bearing set as the cheapest way to get quality bearings but I can't remember exactly which.
Starting to wonder if we should have a separate bargain components thread, but as this is fatbike related...
At Chain Reaction There are 4.7" Vee Bulldozers for ~£30 each, also Vee8 4.0" for ~£18 each.
Bulldozers any good?
I'm thinking as a rear on my OO fatty if it will fit.
Merlin have various promos on this weekend...
10% off lights
5% off orders over £50
8% off orders over £100
10% off orders over £250
Makes a pair of 4.0 Jumbo Jim snakeskins a few pennies under £100, go via Topcashback and get at least 2.1% off your order.
anyone got any copy images of that green Dune that was linked a few pages back? Looks like page has been taken down.
Update: Have decided to reduce the stable and its the Dune thats staying. I love my other hardtail with all its fancy bits on it, and I will miss it, but the Dune simply gives me a simpler happier package for less dough.
Haven't taken the plunge and gone tubeless yet. Have seen many comments on here about how easy it is - im not yet convinced!
Either way, I want to ditch the tubes.
Hello everyone. Babble here with my first post ever.
Wow, what a fantastic thread. Really useful for me and overall just a nice positive helpful chat! I've just spent the last two days working my way through it and by page 18 I had ordered my Calibre Dune on line. I seem to be the only person here who has paid full price (£599), but I am thinking about cancelling my order and waiting and/or signing up to this Topcashback thing n0b0dy0ftheg0at keeps going on about. Then again I need the bike before the end of October as I am heading off to the Alps (where the bike will live from then on!) and I want to take it with me.
I had started off looking for a second HT MTB with a budget of around £500 as a spare for my friends when they come to visit. (I was looking second hand) Then i thought, why not get something a little different from what you have so you have some variety in your stable...so then i looked at full suspension bikes, but they are pretty pricey, then i came across the fat bikes. I thought it seemed like a gimmick, but this thread has convinced me that it is more than that, they really do seem to be genuinely good fun and something a bit different. Where I will be living in the future, in the foothills of the Alps, there is plenty of lovely open space, national parks, single track, possibilities of wild camping, snow in winter, etc. can't wait to get out there and ride.
good work - thanks to you all. (for the advice on upgrades, tyres, etc. etc....)
so..i cancelled my order and then reordered through topcashback. saved £37 quid, which should go towards getting a new tyre or two at a later date. (if the jugganought turns out to be a watt-sappingly draggy as the test here suggests: http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/ )
Did anyone find a source of Dune rear mech hangers?