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I’ve been thinking of ‘maybe’ getting an e-bike and the Amflow looks to be a favourite- however is now a good time to get one or are they likely to be bringing out a new version in the new future?
id be interested to know if anyone knows.
It absolutely wouldn’t be my first choice of ebike for several reasons. But if it’s the one you’ve decided that suits your needs, then now is as good a time as any to buy… It was only released last year, has already proven to be a pretty reliable motor system etc… You’re unlikely to get much of a discount but arguably (at least for the cheaper model) the VFM isn’t too bad at RRP anyway, so…
What are your primary criteria for wanting the AMFlow though…? Is it just the motor?
Can't imagine there'll be a new one anytime soon? Maybe a tweaked bike but I imagine the majority of it is a while off a significant change?
@mboy thanks. The Amflow appears on paper to fit my needs, I mainly ride Blue and Red trails with a fair bit of climbing - I don’t want to be ‘over biked’ and the Amflow looks like it has a decent motor (fast up hill) reasonably light weight for transporting and rides well.
To be fair it gets more respect for how it rides, rather than just the power grabbing headlines it once got. Although I haven’t actually spoken to anyone yet who has bought one out of their own pocket
I I didn’t get one because I didn’t like the colours. The silver one is gvfm
Even embn in their recent video said that it’s a niche product if you really want to make use of its power (they were gushing about it last year)
@funkyDunc yes I saw the embn video, the Mflow certainly gets some praise for its position in the market. Other than this bike I’m not sure what fits my needs. It’s really for me to get as many laps in after work when I’m often too knackered to ride my regular bike.
however is now a good time to get one or are they likely to be bringing out a new version in the new future?
New version of what, the motor or the frame?
There definitely some more brands now picking up the motor system, and I doubt that will change for a year or so (other than firmware), but are ampflow going to do more? It's been suggested the brand were purely created to make a test bed for the motor to be fitted to, and the companies long term future is not guaranteed once they succeeded, in bring other brands onboard.
TBH the power thing does sound great especially if you plan to use solo, but as a group ride bike, its sound vaguely pointless (or purely look at me!) unless you all have the same bike. As other than blasting off ahead, for the amusement factor, you still need to wait for everyone to catch up to ride together.
If it's your first one you should just get it.
I'm waiting until they develop reliable motors for the UK winter. Then I'm holding back until they sort gearbox drivetrains out. Then when the weight comes down to something more manageable I'll consider it, but not before they increase battery range, at which point I'll be dead.
Time is of the essence.
As alluded to, the rumour is they had to make a frame as there was no interest in the motor/battery system. Now they have interest, I’m not sure they will bother with another.
I wouldn’t buy an Amflow, the actual bike I have zero interest in.
I have considered my next bike to be a DJI powered one, but for various reasons I have discounted the bike and/or the motor.
Only advice would be to hold fire until after Eurobike. Maybe nothing will change but there will probably be several new bikes and/or technologies anounced there which may or may not have an influence on your furture decisions. Basically hang on a couple of weeks and see.
I think currently there are really hard to get hold of. Or my mate is being messed about
Went into Don Skene in Cardiff the other day and tried one, just around the block, and also to test for weight. Rode really nicely but too much power for what I want so I've bought a Spec Turbo Levo SL 🙂 Weight was also a factor as I have several big (thick) forest gates to lift it over which is OK but at the end of a ride might not be.
Support looks to be really good and they might be trying to emulate the SPecialized model - supported purchases after the 2 year warranty up to five years, etc.
I bought an ebike in December and Amflow wasn't an option mostly due to cost - my discounted Heckler SL was <£4.5k.
There's one Amflow in my riding group and another on order. I ruled it out not just on cost but also unknowns about the frame, but sample of one is holding up brilliantly despite getting an absolute beasting from the rider over the past 6 months or so inc Scottish winter muck (his rear rim not so much...). Also, the rider with one on order is a bike mechanic with zero patience for shite design and he's impressed with the Amflow design.
Basically, if I could afford/justify one I'd be tempted. If the geometry works for you (I'm not sure it would for me) then got to be worth a look.
My understanding from conversations is that dji weren't really interested in building a bike. They just wanted to sell the motor \ battery \ software they'd developed. But no bike manufacturers were interested, so they built a bike around it. And it was a great bike. Now that other manufacturers are adopting their system (Forbidden, Unno, etc) wonder if dji are interested in further developing the bike ?
Fyi, I took delivery of one 3 weeks back (the base model), only been out on it once so far (due to being on holidays, waiting to invisframe it and other stuff going on). But I covered more ground and mtrs climbing in 1hr than I would in a normal 3 hr spin.
It descended every bit as well as my Pivot Firebird (170mm \ 162mm travel). This might be due to it being box fresh suspension or due to it being a heavier more planted bike but for I was grinning ear to ear at the bottom of every descent and top of every climb.
On the flip side, it definitely wouldn't be classified as exercise though so I'd see these bikes as something additional to a normal bike.
Other than this bike I’m not sure what fits my needs. It’s really for me to get as many laps in after work when I’m often too knackered to ride my regular bike.
I watched a vid of a bloke getting the ‘record’ for going up snowdon on an Amflow
Beat the previous record by 5 mins or so, but his battery was rinsed. I did the same climb on my Rise, was a little bit slower but still had over 50% battery left
So if you use the power it eats the battery. If you use the power you get to 15.5mph instantly and are then I imagine left in a scenario of ‘bouncing’ off the limiter and getting frustrated and very tired
I’m not against the power of the motor just now having had my 85nm 400w Rise for 6 months I know there would be times when you just make use of it.
of course there is also the fact they may get banned , well limited to 750w
My understanding from conversations is that dji weren't really interested in building a bike. They just wanted to sell the motor \ battery \ software they'd developed. But no bike manufacturers were interested, so they built a bike around it. And it was a great bike. Now that other manufacturers are adopting their system (Forbidden, Unno, etc) wonder if dji are interested in further developing the bike ?
They've ended up with a credible and desirable brand now, so I imagine they'll continue.
Unless big potential clients tell them it's a conflict of interest, which I guess is why Shimano, Sram, Bosch etc. don't make bikes.
Was thinking of the base model to replace my Kenevo SL. But now I have a Forbidden Druid CorE 3 on order instead.
From luriking on the eMTB forum and seeing the huge fan base and attitudes from owners, if you have your mind set on an Amflow, I don’t think any other bike is going to turn your head because they simply won’t have the numbers. Literally if it’s all about power and fast laps, obviously it can’t be beat.
I'd expect something new to be announced at Eurobike, but I wouldn't buy the current model as I view the bearings and pivot hardware as being to small to be robust after being bitten by a Canyon years ago. The replacement set is easily available though at £129
I have no idea if they're bringing out new version but the ones arriving now come with the new 2026 Fox 36s.
I've had one since March and put 850 miles on it. It's very good indeed. My previous ebike was an Orbea Rise Hydro (EP801 unlocked to full power). The Amflow rides better and the motor/software is next gen compared to the Shimano EP801.
You can use the bike how you want - from epic range rides to full speed lapping. It's extremely customisable.
I was 90% of the way to buying an Amflow until the new Levo came out, in the end i got the Levo. Main reason being the ability to use different batteries and a range extender. My experience so far has proven that for me, this was the right decision as at 97kg, i'm struggling to get more than 4hrs riding time out of the 840wh battery on the Levo and this would possibly be worse on the Amflow as i think i'd be tempted to use the juice more.
I had a go on an Amflow in mullet mode (the cheaper of the 2 specs) and really liked it. I have a feeling that the owner might have had a 38 on the front, but it was really fun. If I’m honest, I did prefer it to my YT Decoy MX, it was lighter, could handle the same stuff and just felt nice (obviously it was more powerful).
I was also thinking about the Unno before I bought the Amflow, but in my mind I couldn't justify an additional 60% over the cost of the base Amflow. €6,700 vs €10,195.
If you've got the cash, go for it. You only live once and it's not like there's been any issues with them out of the box assuming you dont think it'll hold you back being a trail vs enduro bike.
Only caveat to that is as mentioned above get one with the latest parts spec if you can.
I think they look a good option in terms of specification/price and I have heard positively from experienced riders who have ridden it but don’t own one.
The only reason I wouldn’t have one is that it has more power than I would need, a bigger battery and whilst it is far from heavy - I would rather have a lighter-weight bike with less power and a smaller battery - probably why my Rise suits me.
I bought an ebike in December and Amflow wasn't an option mostly due to cost - my discounted Heckler SL was <£4.5k.
There's one Amflow in my riding group and another on order. I ruled it out not just on cost but also unknowns about the frame, but sample of one is holding up brilliantly despite getting an absolute beasting from the rider over the past 6 months or so inc Scottish winter muck (his rear rim not so much...). Also, the rider with one on order is a bike mechanic with zero patience for shite design and he's impressed with the Amflow design.
Basically, if I could afford/justify one I'd be tempted. If the geometry works for you (I'm not sure it would for me) then got to be worth a look.
yeah will if Jaime ran suitable pressures he wouldn't have ****ed his rim lol.
@mboy thanks. The Amflow appears on paper to fit my needs, I mainly ride Blue and Red trails with a fair bit of climbing - I don’t want to be ‘over biked’ and the Amflow looks like it has a decent motor (fast up hill) reasonably light weight for transporting and rides well.
If it fits your needs and you can get hold of one through a reputable dealer, then go for it... To be fair, for the rider riding more blues and reds and short on time and wanting to maximise their mileage and climbing stats in a limited amount of time, it'd be an ideal bike...
@mboy I'd be interested to hear your reasons why it wouldn't be your first choice. TIA!
As stated above, the AMFlow is really aimed at those riding less technical terrain and wanting to maximise their mileages in a short amount of time... Which is totally not me.I am anything but the typical eBike rider... I can't remember the last time I actually rode at a trail centre... I was riding regular MTB's for over 30yrs before buying my first eBike... Most of my riding is on pretty technical natural trails... I am also not interested in "buying speed"... I tend to go out for long rides (4hrs+ is typical) so efficient battery usage and range are far more important than peak power to me, as is the subtle delivery of the power rather than just a heap of overboost... For which reasons, I still prefer the Bosch CX systems (especially in new Gen5 guise) over other motor systems that I have ridden. Which obviously rules out the AMFlow based on the motor alone...Also I prefer a bike that, whilst maybe the motor isn't just an afterthought, it isn't the reason it is a) famous or b) exists in the first place... It's pretty well known and accepted in the industry the reason why AMFlow exists as a brand, being because nobody was interested in the DJI motor in the first place so they decided to launch a bike themselves just to get the motor to market (and now everybody wants the motor)... The AMFlow's designer previously designed the Stumpjumper and Levo SL models whilst at Specialized I understand and the influence is obvious... I'm nearly 100kg ready to ride these days, I can flex pretty much any bike in use, so stiffer bikes designed for harder riders are far more appealing these days. I had an Orbea Rise for a bit, and great bike as it was, I found it quite flexy and not "LLS enough" for my tastes so have gone back to more "Enduro" style bikes since. I know a few bigger guys on AMFlows have said they are similarly flexy to Rise's which is something I didn't want again...There really isn't a right or wrong answer here, only what suits the individual...
I was 90% of the way to buying an Amflow until the new Levo came out, in the end i got the Levo. Main reason being the ability to use different batteries and a range extender. My experience so far has proven that for me, this was the right decision as at 97kg, i'm struggling to get more than 4hrs riding time out of the 840wh battery on the Levo and this would possibly be worse on the Amflow as i think i'd be tempted to use the juice more.It does seem the new Levo isn't as efficient at power management as the previous model from the few owners I've heard from already, even with the larger battery ranges don't seem as good... Though I've heard of people on AMFlow's going full turbo everywhere and burning through a full 800Wh battery in under 2hrs already!
From luriking on the eMTB forum and seeing the huge fan base and attitudes from owners, if you have your mind set on an Amflow, I don’t think any other bike is going to turn your head because they simply won’t have the numbers. Literally if it’s all about power and fast laps, obviously it can’t be beat.Only things that might would also have the DJI motor in I guess... New Forbidden and Unno models have got them fitted... I'll be honest though, I wouldn't bet against DJI having to restrict the motors sooner than later as the 750W and 100Nm peak figures seem pretty certain to be set in stone as to what classifies as a Class 1 eBike by the powers that be (more than generous figures to be honest, I'd be more than happy with the existing 85Nm and 600W peak figures of current Bosch systems)...
I’m waiting
- want a bit more reliability, rebuildability, spares availability info
- hoping motor ends up in lighter xc frame with removeable battery.
I’d say get one now and enjoy the summer. For the next 5-10 years e-bikes will always be advancing. If you keep waiting to see if anything better comes along, you’ll never buy one. It’s not as LLS as some bikes but I think for most riders this is a good thing. My mate has one and loves it. He also rides similar stuff to you. A decent rider on red trails that also likes to explore off piste, steeper stuff.
He’s 110kg and has not noticed any flex.
If you’ve any doubts it can also handle tech terrain then check out the Ride Scotland instagram. The guy that owns the shop rides an Amflow.