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[Closed] would anyone be willing to buy a £1000 CTW voucher at a discount?

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Say, I wanted a bike from a manufacturer that my company's chosen cycle to work outlet (Evans) don't supply - i'm guessing i'd be at liberty to sell my £1000 voucher (discounted, no doubt) and use the proceeds to bugger off and buy the actual bike I wanted? That'd work, right?

Therefore still saving me a wedge on tax, and spreading the cost to boot.


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 9:34 pm
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Not unless you wanted to commit fraud.
The scheme is a hire agreement between you and your employer so nobody else could 'buy' this from you.


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 9:44 pm
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And also, goods bought via the scheme are sold at full price so then chance of someone paying more than £900 is doubtable.


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 9:45 pm
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Carefull slimjim 😯 I bet you didn't realise your plan was a terrible crime. Don't worry there'll be plenty of people on here queuing up to get you on message 🙄


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 9:49 pm
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haha.

yeah, a bit of fraud never hurt no-one

In essence, you are buying a voucher in order to sub-purchase 'goods' up to the value of £1000 in order to get to work by bike and/or become healthier. My understanding is that you don't even need to buy a bike, but instead could blow the lot on, say, gloves. If you wanted to.

So if I used the voucher by proxy to buy a bike elsewhere?..
Plus passing on matthews recommendation of £100 discount to another lucky punter.

I'd be paying back the voucher to my company. And i'd be riding to work. I'm struggling a little bit, maybe its my criminal mind. But is it actually fraud?

I guess youre not paying the tax on the voucher, and so if went and spent the voucher on a knees-up in Ibeefa... Hmm. Ok. maybe a bad idea.


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:02 pm
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It's fraud because the goods bought with the voucher actually belong to your employer (or scheme provider) until the end of the term (usually three years these days?)


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:04 pm
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The fraud bit is you selling a voucher for a bike that you'll be hiring from your work rather than owning. What happens if you decide that you no longer like your job and pack it in?


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:06 pm
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If you're going to do it, do it with a mate or family member, not a random


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:07 pm
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Yeah. Mouth/foot interfaced on this one I think


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:29 pm
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Also you have an end of lease payment to cover etc.
Personally I'd be looking at doing it at cost (IE they pay your monthly payments) to somebody close not a stranger.


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:34 pm
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Surely if you sell the voucer at a discount you lose out on more or less original saving made by the scheme!? Unless you pay the higher band of tax in which case why worry about a £100 saving or so!?


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:48 pm
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I was under the impression that ctw was effectively a "hire" agreement with your employer, with the option to buy the goods at end of period, not sure how that works if you just buy clothes/saftey gear and no bike though? Spode you are hiring your outfit?


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:55 pm
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Oops double post


 
Posted : 04/03/2015 10:56 pm

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