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Personally I like the look of the Signal (particularly in the grey) but if you're riding tips towards XC then I really cant see the benefit of having a Signal with the extra weight (and cost) over an alloy frame (like the Frontier). Im really not convinced steel offers that fabled compliance over a alloy frame thats worth the weight penalty. If your riding is more trail/gnar and weight is less of a concern then I start to see the appeal
With bigger volume tyres I’m not sure if steel has a huge benefit now - especially if built up robust like this frame. I’m not a 29er fan so out of the Sonder bikes I’d buy a Transmitter personally.
I have just ordered a steel frame though to see what the fuss is about to replace a Vitus Sentier Frame. I love the hardtail vibe on flowy / jumpy / bermy trails but only for a couple of hours at a time when my lower back starts to grumble. Hoping a little bit of extra compliance from steel plus a bigger volume rear tyre means I can ride for longer on it. Should be a good 5 or 6 lbs lighter than my full suss bike hopefully.
Just ordered the Signal, joe, or another steel frame?
Just ordered the Signal, joe, or another steel frame
Nah, wrong wheel size. If I were going off the peg steel it’d either have been the new Ribble which is 725 and looks decent (although a bit too slack ideally) or a Stanton switchback / Slackline.
I’ve actually ordered a Marino with custom geometry and 725 butted tubes. It’s for my 40th so I’m getting it sprayed in the U.K. in a really nice paint and building it up with fairly posh components. Got some Pike ultimates on the way / I’ve built some new wheels with Erase Components Hubs and DT421 rims, got a Carbon Bar / Thompson Stem / GX 11 speed with a gold chain and am planning to order some carbon Sram cranks etc.
Hoping it builds up fairly light but robust.
Ooooh. Sounds gert lush. Looking forward to seeing pics!
What colour?
Sounds gert lush. Looking forward to seeing pics! What colour?
Midnight Candy Blue with a light dusting of spectraflare over the top for sparkles!
Doesnt sound like the kind of build you're looking to cut corners on, but I've got an XX1 crankset, 175mm not doing anything at the mo.
Midnight Candy Blue with a light dusting of spectraflare over the top for sparkles!
ooooh! Aaaah! etc. nice.
Doesnt sound like the kind of build you’re looking to cut corners on, but I’ve got an XX1 crankset, 175mm not doing anything at the mo.
If they were 170mn Dub XX1 cranks I’d be interested - but not 175 I’m afraid. I’m fairly short and have specced a reasonably low bottom bracket.
It’s not a totally bling build - I’m reusing an old ish GX mech / shifter to save money and a slightly younger GX 10-42 cassette. I was originally wondering about slx 12 speed or gx Eagle but I’m underwhelmed by the XT 12 speed on my fs bike so sticking to GX 11 for now. Just going to bang on a 30t chainring on your give me a relatively low gear.
Just saw your reply. Seems I wasn't that hopeful! 😀
If they were 170mm, they wouldn't be going spare!
I was pretty excited about XT/SLX 12 speed, but rider reports haven't lived up to the press launch enthusiasm, so I'm sticking with 10 speed for now, and pedaling harder!
If anyone had taken the trouble to watch the Signal vid they would know that it has internal sleeved cable routing. That and the seat brace is likely where a lot of the extra weight is. Yes 853 comes out up to a lb lighter [Shug V Big Dog] but what counts more is whether it rides heavy and the compliance of the frame.
How much weight would the internal cabling add? I think someone mentioned earlier in the thread that the Yarn was lighter too, and that has a seat brace.
What offset fork would be best on this frame? Frame specs say 42 or 51mm but which would you go for and why?
If anyone had taken the trouble to watch the Signal vid they would know that it has internal sleeved cable routin
Ti version might but the steel are clearly external looking at the product shots.