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Had to go a different way home because of this last night, didn't know it was a cyclist that had been killed:
Cyclist killed between Abergavenny and Raglan.
It may be a dual carriageway but it's one of the fastset TT courses in the UK, don't know if it was a racer or someone lost.
Condolences to the family.
Very saddening to hear of the loss of life through another person’s actions. The van driver was charged at the scene but it doesn’t bring anyone back.
A course I’ve marshalled, pushed off and ridden on; with good visibility so the driver has no excuses.
Condolences to the family.
Driver arrested not charged! Don't know the road but always a shocking thing to hear.
Awful, condolences to family and friends.
It may be a dual carriageway but it’s one of the fastset TT courses in the UK, don’t know if it was a racer or someone lost.
I’m not a roadie… TT=Time Trial?
Is it closed for racing or like the busy dual carriageway near me used for “racing” with the road open?
Tbh it does always seem a bit nuts that people choose to ride there, it doesn’t look fun at all and even more nuts that there’s an organised event.
Is it closed for racing or like the busy dual carriageway near me used for “racing” with the road open?
A time trial is not a race as racing is illegal 😎
I'm told by those that do it that TTs on a dual carriageway are safer due to the sight lines. I'm not convinced.
This is a time trial on a dual carriageway road (so no issues overtaking) that has long sight lines for vehicles, the participants riding along individually, with warning signs up. You'd have to be drunk, on the phone, seriously distracted etc. to hit someone.
Awful news.
certainly historically as well TT's used to be at silly early times on Sunday mornings so roads weren't busy.
Regardless of how this came about, sad news.
I’m told by those that do it that TTs on a dual carriageway are safer due to the sight lines.
I can see how that would be true statistically, but I certainly feel very vulnerable on that sort of road. Perhaps it’s the case that accidents are rare but almost always very serious.
TTing just seems weird to me even without this danger but who am I to judge?
Condolences to all involved.
Sad news indeed. I've driven on this road during a TT, and have to say it wouldn't be for me. Long, straight road all sound good, but having seen it when it's pouring with rain, windy and exposed with heavy traffic passing at 70, it's way beyond my risk appetite in those conditions.
Driver arrested not charged!
Nothing unusual or sinister here; he will be released under investigation or bailed until the investigation is near completion. There will be a lot of forensic crash investigation taking place, there may be forensic submissions such as blood or urine to process, all of which takes weeks if not months.
Many years ago I used to investigate fatal & life altering crashes and for the most straightforward fatal file, without any prosecutions and coroners only, the quickest I could put a file together was around 3 months. I don’t know how long these days, but I can’t imagine it’s a shorter period of time.
CSB that is half the problem a lot of people are all three these days on the road very sad news.
Can't see any open or club events, could have been someone lost? I've raced that course both RR and TT and it's always felt like one of the safer courses, the traffic is light and the line of sight is a very good distance, I've never had any issues with drivers, it was one of my favorite courses. Potential for sun glare at that time of the evening.
RIP always very sad to hear.
Tragic, but I don’t believe a TT based on the UK TT Facebook group. I raced my last 12 hour on that course on my trike. It’s fast but a wide dual carriageway. Signs are always put in place and traffic assessments conducted. I never felt unsafe.
I wondered if it was low sun if heading west along the A40. Why I race with a rear light that can be seen a mile away. For this reason.
RIP.
Went along the bit of road this evening and there's a single cone and a bunch of flowers marking the spot. Perfect sight lines and in shelter too. No sign asking for witnesses though which is strange although the name of the driver is circulating around locally.
I think people have misunderstood me with the TT part of my comment. I wasn't saying it was a TT event, they usually run on a Sunday morning, but that the road is a well-known TT course and that it was unknown whether the victim was doing a solo TT run or just riding along. I regularly see riders on it at odd times all kitted up.
I live near that road and regularly drive it and have to say that cycling on a dual carriageway is asking for trouble. An accident waiting to happen. It is very sad though.
I have to say I disagree. Of course depends on the dual carriageway but with good sightlines, an overtaking lane, and the speed limit basically the same as NSL roads (being passed at 60 or 70, or worse hit at 60 or 70 is going to be very similar) I see no reason why we should feel that by using a dual carriageway we are 'asking for trouble'. That thinking has to be challenged.
There are dual carriageways near me that I perfectly reasonably use and will continue to do so.
In defence of riding in a dual carriageway, the safest feeling bit of my old Bristol to Bath commute was the A4 Keynsham bypass. Loads of space to be overtaken with, rather than being squeezed as one often was on single carriageways.
Sad news all round
Recent events prove me to be right.
Recent events prove me to be right.
Because no-one was ever mown down on a single carriageway road were they... So what your actually saying is cyclists on roads are asking for it.
have to say that cycling on a dual carriageway is asking for trouble
No, it's asking for some care and compassion, clearly you are lacking in one of those at least
It is sad news, ultimately her husband and two kids are without their wife and mum, and the rest of her family are struggling to get their heads round it, doesn't matter if it's dual carriageway or narrow country lanes, still the same result.
Very sad.
Fatbikedog - wow.
No need for victim blaming. Anyone doing so is part of the problem