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@leftyboy. Where did you say there were going to be some T-130 works please as I really want one


 
Posted : 16/08/2014 6:12 pm
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If someone was to give you 3k what bike would you buy? I want a full sus but struggling to choose one, I have kinda landed on the Whyte T-130 Works but have been considering the orange fives too, any advice would be great,


 
Posted : 16/08/2014 6:15 pm
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So I've taken it out on it's first ride, first impressions, it's quick. It pedals really, really well & it descends better than I do (I noticed this when approaching the first corner & tried to slow down remembering I hadn't quite bedded in the brakes yet...)

Oh yeah & most importantly - it looks fantastic.

If I was choosing between this & an Orange, I would pick this as I personally prefer the feel of the rear suspension over that of the orange - when I've ridden Oranges it feels like 2 halves of a bike... this feels like a whole, if that makes sense?


 
Posted : 17/08/2014 9:23 am
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Bottle cage is being sorted.

The rear end feels like a Pike in shock form, so a big improvement and the feel is very balanced.

Flex is most definitely sorted. 46% stiffer was the number placed on it, and it's nearly best in class in terms of stiffness. You can carve corners knowing exactly what the rear end is doing better now.


 
Posted : 17/08/2014 10:34 pm
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@hammer my LBS which is Handsford in Winchester


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 10:08 am
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@hammer [url= http://www.peterhansford.co.uk/winchester.htm ]hansford[/url]


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 11:58 am
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@leftyboy, could ya possibly give me the name or their address please fella


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 1:26 pm
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@leftyboy, could ya possibly give me the name or their address please fella

Click the Link- it takes you straight to their website.. 😉


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 1:39 pm
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that's a shame, they don't have it, looking at a couple of weeks the chap said, so that will be 25 sept same as I am hearing everywhere 🙁


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 1:46 pm
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I am sooooo impatient I want my bike NOW, does anyone know of any 2014 bikes that are as good as the Whyte T-130 Works? or do you think I should be patient and wait, I WANNA GET OUT ON THE DIRT!!!!! if there is another bike out there with very similar spec for around £3000 please tell me as I would be all over it like a tramp on a chip, I am going to look at the T-129s and the orange pro tonight OR SHOULD I WAIT FOR THE T-130 WORKS HEEEELLLLPPPPPP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE lol


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 2:06 pm
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Are the MK2 chainstays compatible for the MK1? i.e can us eager beavers with a MK1 upgrade the rear end for increased stiffness?

is the rear end only stiff in the 1x model or can it operate 2x too?

It's not that I have many concerns about the stiffness of the MK1, it's just that, well, shiney shiney new.


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 2:25 pm
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@skindog

They're not. The pivot on the front triangle of the 2015 frame is wider, so the 2014 would be too narrow at the Main BB pivot for the new chainstay.

Both G150 models for 2015 are SCR, so neither will allow a front mech to be fitted, if that's what you're asking.

I know what you mean about shiney shiney new. haha


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 2:47 pm
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@hammer mine was part of a pre-release order and should be in the shop waiting for my return from my holiday in France.


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 2:57 pm
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I've got a medium and large G-150s on pre-order, still not sure on the sizing. Will only have a carpark ride to try out the sizing.
What size is the one above and how tall are you? How do you find the fit?

Looks great btw!


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 3:14 pm
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@agh100

That's a large and I'm 6ft 2" and finding it really good.


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 3:26 pm
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I'm told that the 2015 Whyte's are coming up pretty big


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 3:27 pm
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looking at the geometry the top tube is slightly shorter on the 2015 model than the 2014, that said it's still long.
I'm 6ft so will see how both bike feels. Think I may end up with a medium..


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 3:41 pm
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how much is the G150s AGH100?


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 3:52 pm
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@hammer G-150S is £2799 G-150 Works is £3999


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 4:05 pm
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think I will have to draw the line at £3000 my wife would kill me if I went to £4000 I was only going to spend £1500 in the beginning hahahaha


 
Posted : 18/08/2014 4:09 pm
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Got back from France, rang LBS who are still waiting for the first Works models to arrive! Was 🙂 when I thought my T-130 Works was going to be here today now a bit 🙁 I know it's a bit of a first world problem!


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 6:18 pm
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Atb still say end of September been told the delay is because of the SRAM wheels not being available apparently.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 6:24 pm
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@wiggles 🙁 my LBS are still saying any day now as they are, apparently, getting the first batch. If the wheels are not available I'm guessing that's not going to be the case! Seems poor that a supplier stops a product shipping but it's not unusually for the bike industry.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 6:28 pm
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As far as I know September was the original release date for most of them anyway so only been delayed a few weeks.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 6:32 pm
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Picked up a T130s today, first ride out...bloody hell it rails corners like a dh bike. Looking forward to getting it dialled in properly.sweeeet


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 7:03 pm
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It's pretty much irrelevant to this thread but I have had a Whyte 29 CS for two days now, and it climbs like a rocketship. Loving it......


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 7:06 pm
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@lecky94 and @dpfr good to hear they ride well - really hoping my Works model arrives soon 🙂


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 8:12 pm
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Picked up a T130s today, first ride out...bloody hell it rails corners like a dh bike. Looking forward to getting it dialled in properly.sweeeet

It's a hell of a bike... been out on2 rides on mine so far - looking forward to more playtime this weekend.


 
Posted : 22/08/2014 8:15 pm
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I have placed my order for the T-130 Works, 25th sept CANNOT come quick enough, hope I have chosen the right bike


 
Posted : 23/08/2014 3:51 pm
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@hammer I'm hoping mine comes sooner than the 25th Sept!


 
Posted : 23/08/2014 6:00 pm
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Any T130 demos going around??


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 7:47 am
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@leftyboy I have searched everywhere and am being told the same thing from everyone, I am THE MOST impatient customer on earth and as such have exhausted every avenue trying to get a bike earlier but if its the T-130 Works ya after it would seem ya have to wait till end of Sept


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 11:32 am
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although its strange that ya can get a 2015 T-130S now as I have been to a shop and seen one in the flesh but not the works


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 11:36 am
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although its strange that ya can get a 2015 T-130S now as I have been to a shop and seen one in the flesh but not the works

Even longer wait for the SX "entry" level model! It's due to parts supply issues. Anyway...

Got a T-130SCR Works on order as a demo bike for the shop. Can't wait for it to arrive and get some miles in on it! Anyone in the midlands area that wants to demo a medium sized T-130 when it arrives, please feel free to get in touch...


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 1:35 pm
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Any more ride updates? How does it come up for size?


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 4:11 pm
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Can anyone give an idea / links as to how the quad link works. How do they compare to dw links/fsr? Are they single pivots? I cant find any blurb on the website. Shame that orange T130 doesnt come with pikes


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 5:20 pm
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Supplier won't have the bikes until 25th of September (at their current estimate) so no shop will have them until at least a few days after then, so no point ringing loads of shops as all rhthe bikes come from the same place.

T130s is available now as it has different parts.


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 6:00 pm
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Can anyone give an idea / links as to how the quad link works. How do they compare to dw links/fsr? Are they single pivots?

It's a conventional 4 bar linkage, no phantom trickery or anything. Would've thought it pretty obvious looking at it myself...

Shame that orange T130 doesnt come with pikes

But that's why it costs what it does. Put Pikes on it and you'd have to increase the RRP by at least £200. It wouldn't make sense as they also have the higher specced Works model with Pikes.


 
Posted : 24/08/2014 11:30 pm
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Can anyone give an idea / links as to how the quad link works. How do they compare to dw links/fsr?

Mine feels like it has a lot less pedal feedback than the FSR on the camber - even on road sections I don't feel the need to lock out or put on pro-pedal, not sure if this is down to the system or a better shock tune?

It also feels like it has more travel than the 130mm available, not sure if this is down to me coming to 650b & a tubeless set up after riding a tubed 26" bike for the last 25 years!


 
Posted : 25/08/2014 6:36 am
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@wiggles My LBS have now said as much! I'm having my dodgy knee cartilage sorted on 1st Sept so hopefully the Works will arrive just as I need motivation to ride with a sore knee 🙂


 
Posted : 25/08/2014 9:44 pm
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I wasn't trying to be annoying just didn't want you getting your hopes up when there is very little chance it will be before then.

I've already bought the bars and stem for mine and just choosing pedals... waiting for a bike can be expensive!


 
Posted : 25/08/2014 9:50 pm
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@wiggles Not taken your updates as annoying! Just frustrated as I wanted to get some time in on a new bike before my knee op and when I pre-ordered it looked like the Works would arrive first! Always painful waiting on a new bike! Have always bought frames and built up myself or bought an end of season bargain so this is my first wait for a new model! Whoever said patience was a virtue had never waited for a new bike! 🙂


 
Posted : 25/08/2014 10:00 pm
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@Wiggles popped into my LBS now saying 3 weeks and 2 days so 25th of September looks like a possibility. I'll just have the knee op, put my feet up (sorry) and wait 🙂


 
Posted : 26/08/2014 3:54 pm
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T-130S and T-130SX looked very nice in the LBS, roll on September and the Works models 🙂


 
Posted : 26/08/2014 4:34 pm
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So after a week of riding my T130s im finding out its strengths and weaknesses, finding the paint chips really easy so heli tape it from new,the wtb tyres are great in the dry and smooth stuff but show them a wet n rocky lakeland down hill and there crap,watch out for the front mech cable rubbing on the swing arm when its compressed, seems the cable clip is not tucked back a enough,easy sorted by zipting it futher round the seat tube. plus the gear outer on the bb shell rubs in the clip,but doesnt really need to be hooked into that. Just thought id give you guys a heads up before you hit the trails on those long awaited steeds..Other than that its f*cking awsome..


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 11:33 am
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It seems that numbers/geometry can be deceptive.

I sat on the ‘Small’ Whyte T130 S that Bike UK have in stock today. I was expecting it to feel markedly too small (I am 5'10"), especially as the size chart recommends it for 5’2” – 5’6” heights. But to my surprise, it felt only ‘’just’’ too small, even with the shorter, 60mm stem specced on the small version. So while I was agonising between a large and a medium, it seems that at 5’10”, the Medium should be spot on. I may even be able to get away with a 60mm stem on the medium, which would be great. Bike does feel on the heavy side, but the frame is top quality, looks really sturdy - the rear triangle is a lot more sturdy/attractive looking than on last year's T129 for instance.

Put deposit down on a medium, expecting delivery in early October :\


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 2:32 pm
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Im 5'8 and the med fits a treat, the tt on the large is nearly 2cm longer which felt way to stretched out yet the standover was still ok. I havent felt the need to change anything from stock as it felt well balanced going up and down.the bike is a fare bit heavier than i thought but doesnt feel heavy whilst riding it.


 
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Plus if anyone is looking for a med s i think wheelbase have got one in stock and a sx in the small if it helps anyone looking.


 
Posted : 28/08/2014 3:31 pm
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Knee op done and feels OK. Just need to take it gently until the new bike arrives! 🙂


 
Posted : 01/09/2014 2:24 pm
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Double post!


 
Posted : 01/09/2014 2:25 pm
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good luck Lefty hope it heals in time for ya


 
Posted : 01/09/2014 3:04 pm
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So no pain in knee after op, tear was much longer than expected but all good now. 2 weeks off the bike and then turbo for 2 weeks then hopefully back to normal riding. Just hope my T-130 Works is here by then!


 
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Surprised at people thinking they are coming up big. Had a little pedal on the T130S in med and if anything thought it felt quite short when standing... Im only 5' 8" so medium should be bang on but interested to try a large.


 
Posted : 02/09/2014 11:07 pm
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I had a quick go on a new G150 works last night, large felt good in the frame for me at 5'10" (and a half!), I was amazed how well it pedalled uphill when seated - the guy behind thought it was locked out as it wasn't bobbing (it was fully open). I couldn't feel any frame flex mashing a big gear either. Didn't get to test it on any decent downhills though.

I'm very keen to get a go on a T130 SCR... (G150 is too much bike for my riding!)


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 7:40 am
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Ah, this is disappointing. I had hoped that a medium T130 would be just right for my 5'10 height. Seems that I am between a medium and large after all (although not tried either, as both not in stock yet).

People who have actually got a T130 - what do you think of the sizing relative to your height?


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 8:05 am
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Given that the T130 top tube is 20mm shorter than the G150 and the one I rode had silly wide bars on it (which will make it feel even longer I guess) I would put me firmly on a large at that height.


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:03 am
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i was measured up for the T-130 Works and at 6ft was told the large would be best


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 9:23 am
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I tried the car park test on a t130 med and found it rideable but a bit small at 5'10.5 As there isn't a huge jump to the large id be buying that - if I'm between sizes I prefer to size up on shorter travel and size down on longer travel bikes. The bottom bracket seems fairly low - are pedal strikes a big issue? I'm stuck between the g150s and t130works if I go with whyte. Following my post up there ^ do the bikes have a snappy feel, launch off roots etc or do they just suck up everything and are hard to get off the ground.
Cheers


 
Posted : 03/09/2014 10:48 am
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OK now a bit worried that the med I've reserved might be the wrong size as I'm 5' 10". When they come in I'll try both but a car park test is always a bit deceptive. Hopefully it'll be obvious as dropping £3k on a bike that doesn't fit wouldn't be ideal 🙂


 
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To be honest, the only difference between M and L is 1cm in top tube length and wheelbase (unless you run the stem completely slammed on the medium, in which case the large will have higher bars as the head tube is longer). Also watch out on the large that you can run the Reverb at the right height, having sat on a medium today and set up the seatpost, I figure that I'll only have 1cm to the reverb collar on the large frame. And thats with the seat in a nice high XC race type position when fully extended.


 
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Went into bike shop again today for an update on the delivery date of the T130 in medium…been put back again until 10th October. No surprises there. However, they did, amazingly have a G150 S in medium sitting there, looking all pretty.

I sat on it (putting a big rip in my work trousers in the process). It felt spot on size wise for my 5’10 height. Nice and roomy. Given the 20mm longer stem on the T130, I just can’t see the size large being appropriate. Anyway, going to have a quick spin up the road on it after work. Because it’s available right now, I am so so tempted.


 
Posted : 04/09/2014 2:19 pm
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But... The Medium G150 is the same in top tube length to the Large T130.


 
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Yeah, but with a 20mm shorter stem.


 
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G150 felt good on the roads near to shop. Bike climbed well, the sram 1x11 drive train was perfect. The guide brakes felt lovely. Not much pedal Bob and suspension going off curbs etc felt good. This said, it definitely feels like a long bike, and with that slack head angle, it takes a long arc around corners. I guess that's the trade off for stability though.

Sizing wise, the medium felt perfect, definitely wouldn't want to go any bigger.

Just really torn between this and the t130. The T130 is probably the sensible choice, but the G150 sure is tempting, with its wild side.


 
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You will get used to the longer wheelbase fairly quickly. But I think you'd be happy with either if I'm being perfectly honest. They're both really fun bikes to ride, just in slightly different ways.


 
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Since I ordered a t-130 Works. I have been hungry for reviews and have been following your comments closely.
My present Bike is a Whyte T120- 2012.
I have been seriously trail riding only since newly acquiring this machine.
I have twice injured myself over the handlebars on the downhills (just sprains and bruises) some of it attributed to skill level issues and error;
But a portion can be laid at the bike being a size too big.
I am 5'10.5 tall but; I have long torso, short legs making me top heavy. The large bike frame mis-sold to me, limits the amount of seat post drop.
On ordering my new T-130 from LBS, I was lucky enough to try a new large framed t-130s that was available, and I knew straight away, the frame was definitely too big for my 31" inside leg; the 125mm reverb seat- post tells no lies.
Get yourself measured properly or try a few size if in doubt!
For me, I am pretty certain the medium frame on 650b wheel and a slacker head, is going to be for me, a revelation;
Safer, better, Particularly with the great spec.. Can't wait.


 
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Still have t130 works on order but after riding a few longer TT'd bikes recently I think I might go for a G150s instead.

Although I am due to do a specialized demo day and ride the 650b/29er stumpjumpers and enduros soon...


 
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Getonyourbike - cheers for that. I know I only tried it on the road (both up and down), but even leaning it right over, the turning arc felt soo slow compared to my hardtail. I appreciate I'd get used to it, but is it actually possible to do tighter, more snappy turns, without sliding out the back wheel?

Also, as someone else asked above, does the G150 have a poppy feel or is it more towards the 'soak it all up' end of the spectrum?

Thanks


 
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Popped into the LBS after work and they had a T130 S on display. Stunning bike! So much attention to detail and the spec is brilliant value for money. Tempted by the t130 works or g150 s.. Can't test ride either though.


 
Posted : 05/09/2014 10:24 pm
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T-130 Works seems to have an amazing spec hence pre-ordering one, problem is Whyte can't ship them because of parts issues.. Poorer spec, but I'm sure excellent, bikes lower in the range are shipping.

Frustrating!


 
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I have been seriously trail riding

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I now have a g150s!
Just felt better size for me than the t130


 
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Wiggles- good stuff. Agreed regarding sizibg, medium felt great at 5"10, nice and roomy. Rude report when you've taken it out!


 
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Just finished building mine, swapped bars and stem for easton haven 40mm stem and haven carbon 35mm bars and fitted my preferred specialized saddle.

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@wiggles very nice!


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 8:08 pm
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To those asking about T-130 sizing - I'm 5'10" & running a medium, feels fine fit wise...


 
Posted : 07/09/2014 8:25 pm
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@PrinceJohn excellent my T-130 Works is a medium when it arrives!


 
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I'm only 5'8" but must be a weird shape as felt the T130 was to short in the TT, the G150 is longer (near enough as long in a medium as the T130 is in large)


 
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What does she weigh in at wiggles? I am also looking at the G150S, what is the wheel set quality like? The wheels are the only components that have me worried on the 150S build. Does the rear hub appear to be of reasonable quality? Does anybody know who the manufacturer is? I'm a little worried about the availability of freehubs. Also what do you think of the guide brakes?

Thanks in advance


 
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Weighs in around 31lbs (with pedals on a calibrated park scales) so out of the box it would have been over 32lbs without changing the bars and saddle etc, also it came set up tubeless which is unusual but saved me a job!

Wheels seem decent they have been used on most of their models for a few years and I can't recall any customers bringing any back to the shop with issues to be honest.

Guide brakes seem nice have a much nicer lever feel than avids ever did but not tested in anger yet.


 
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