[Closed] Why can't everyone play nice on here ?

Ride like a girl! Rachael Atherton? 😀

There does seem to be a fair bit of testosterone and chest beating from time to time.

Shame really as most folk on here seem sound (if a little niche)

if not here, where would all the massive egos fit?, the internerd isn't THAT big!

I thought it had calmed down a bit now TJ and Al had called a truce.

I seem to have a talent for getting into stupid rows over nothing. I am not the only one by a long way either.

I reckon it'd be pretty boring without some of the banter
(could do without some of the "epic battles" mind 😉 )

anyhow, at least you got something helpful out of the thread oldfart, in amongst the rest (haven't read it at all)

Mmm checked the spelling and punctuation,couldn't find any thing to comment on there,not even a pic to pull apart.Only the fact that you've bought a bike that translates to "the peter" gives me any thing to smile about.

Sad day

[i]will be back to full BATTLE-KNOBLORD strength soon. [/i]

bit of bracing with a spoon in appropriate places and you'll be fine.

I seem to have a talent for getting into stupid rows over nothing

That's the most sensible thing I've ever seen you write 😉

...even if I have been dragged in more than once 😳

I'm re-grouping but will be back to full BATTLE-KNOBLORD strength soon.

Sounds like that could be quite a short but hard process.

Oi

Tortoise face. How dare you say that. Step outside now!

Agree wholeheartedly. Different strokes for different folks.

Some folk around here could start a fight in an empty house. Keyboard heroes.

Would like to see more funnies and a bit less bickering. Left stw alone for ages because I got fed up with it, came back recently, no change. 🙁

Step outside now!

PS do you mind if I take your quote and start a whole new thread? I thing it will be the most uplifting one on STW EVER

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Some people's aggressive attitudes really get on my nerves. I've noticed more and more posts where people have asked for advice or are thinking out loud or trying to work something and they've got a load of nasty, petty comments (as well as some useful replies of course).
I do think it's a great site most of the time though with mostly nice people.

I always thought the unwritten rule on t'internet was don't let yer mouth write cheques that your fists can't cash ! :lol:Guess that will need changing when cheques are phased out !!!!Maybe don't say things on a keyboard that you wouldn't to someone's face !

cynic-al - Member
I'm re-grouping but will be back to full BATTLE-KNOBLORD strength soon.

At least you admit your a Knob - respect to you!

Perhaps it is simply the digital manifestation of sexual frustration, the causes of which are Wee Cocks and Big Fannies ❓

😯 🙁 😀

There are a number of reasons for the arguments I believe

Often nuance is lost due to the nature of text based chat. That leads to misunderstandings and people getting irate

There are folk like me who find it very hard to let something lie - either a need to get the last word or a need to keep explaining. There are a good few of us and when two clash then the debate goes on for ever.

There there is the "internet policeman" who feels its their duty to correct things that folk type and will often be very abrupt and rude in doing so. They believe it is justifiable to put people down.

Then there is the funny guy whos humour simply does not work. What they think is a funny comment comes over as snippy and bitchy.

Some folk believe that you should act and react as you would in real life, not saying anything you wouldn't to someones face, others think "its just the internet" and fire away. A recipe for clashes.

The vast majority of folk on here are decent people. Its often the limitations of a text based debate and the lack of social mores for internet debates that lead to the arguments.

I've mentioned before the way real life mountain bikers are completely opposite to STW mountain bikers.

I go to races and chat to other people in the pits or campsite, or even while racing, and everyone gets on.
I meet people in the Wyre Forest and, as locals, we always invite visitors to tag on to our group so we can show them around.

You only have to make some innocent comment or observation on STW for someone to come back with an indignant disproportional reply...

"I prefer bridleways to trail centres"
"What's wrong with trail centres, no one's forcing you to ride them"

"I find that on a single speed I have to attack short hills and use inertia to get up them, while geared riders change down to a lower gear and crawl up them."
"So you think you're a riding god, overtaking all geared riders up every hill on your single speed."

It's a bit like pedestrians who will shuffle around each other in a crowded sopping centre, politely letting other people through when it causes them no inconvenience, then start pushing in and tooting their horn as soon as they get outside and get in their cars.

I can't see any way of avoiding them, I suppose the best bet is to make a note of who the STW horn tooters are and wind them up whenever possible.

You missed out that some of us just enjoy an argument 😉 (doing it on here, helps make us more chilled in real life)

TJ how elequently put sir ! (go on flame me for spelling can't be arsed to check it ! )

I go on a lot of music/musicians forums and they are generally far more respectful with each other and helpful if you have a question. Singletrackworld stands out, in my view, in that there is a sizable number of members on here who just come across as complete cocks and wish to force there objectionable views and smart arse put downs on everyone else.

aracer - there is a difference between debate and argument 😉

MTQG - actually I think you find that even the real numpties on here are decent in person. there is only a couple of folk I would actively avoid and I have met many great folk thru here.

I go on a lot of music/musicians forums and they are generally far more respectful with each other and helpful if you have a question.

It's quite easy to avoid the heated threads if you want, and there is a lot of useful stuff on here. Also notable that people are generally quite happy to lay down arms and help out people they were arguing with earlier. Are you really suggesting that people on here aren't helpful when you ask a question?

Let's face it ❗ as long as you remember that STW is the online MTB equavalent to a mad house, you'll be fine 😉

It's quite easy to avoid the heated threads if you want...

I don't suppose which plectrum is best has anything like the potential for emotional involvement that the best way to carry your baby on a bike does.

Oh dear, your belittlement of what may, or may not, be discussed on a musicians forum has really just reinforced in my mind everything I just said. I rest my case.

I would also imagine that they would be incredulous at some of the crap that can be talked on here about something as simple as a bicycle tyre or a chain.

There are a number of reasons for the arguments I believe

Often nuance is lost due to the nature of text based chat. That leads to misunderstandings and people getting irate

There are folk like me who find it very hard to let something lie - either a need to get the last word or a need to keep explaining. There are a good few of us and when two clash then the debate goes on for ever.

There there is the "internet policeman" who feels its their duty to correct things that folk type and will often be very abrupt and rude in doing so. They believe it is justifiable to put people down.

Then there is the funny guy whos humour simply does not work. What they think is a funny comment comes over as snippy and bitchy.

Some folk believe that you should act and react as you would in real life, not saying anything you wouldn't to someones face, others think "its just the internet" and fire away. A recipe for clashes.

The vast majority of folk on here are decent people. Its often the limitations of a text based debate and the lack of social mores for internet debates that lead to the arguments.

Good post and pretty much sums it up with the addition of what aracer said that some just enjoy an argument, not that that's a major problem!

Oh dear, your belittlement of what may, or may not, be discussed on a musicians forum...

Classic example on the event thread. I tried to be helpful but in hindsight was not clear, BWD misunderstood what I was meaning and came down on me like a ton of bricks as he thought I was saying something really stupid.

Not getting at BWD at all - just an example of how things go wrong.

Been some Epic threads which although not obviously funny for those directly concerned had some great humour added - the mint sauce keyring, the odd dodgy classifieds seller thread and more recently the poster who got confused by the 7/7 inquest.

Mmm, my thread about TJ's admission above seems to have vanished into thin air. Is this the start of some forum cleansing?

Curious

It's also a tremendous badge of honour to be banned from...

No it's not.

Oh dear, your belittlement of what may, or may not, be discussed on a musicians forum has really just reinforced in my mind everything I just said.

It's also a tremendous badge of honour to be banned from..

To a newcomer it is a nob rich environment.

Especially if you're a bit of a nob yourself..

when I first stumbled into the forum looking for info and advice, I thought that I had mistakenly uncovered some sort of a hornets nest of throwbacks from Tom Browns Schooldays, fine tuning their scornful contempt before entering the House of Commons with all the sniping and jeering and bitching and sneering..

'Ye gods....!' thought I.. 'these scoundrels need taking down a peg or two.. they are blatantly off their faces on their own sense of self importance..'

so I waded in with a few choice opinions of my own..
within a minute or two I realised that I had become the sneering pillock by association and that others were now finding [i]me[/i] to be an arrogant and slimy turd.. so I was in turn attacked.. and then they became the thing they hated.. and were attacked in turn..

it's a cyclic thing... a self fulfilling prophecy..
it's probably the subject of much debate in sociology circles..

[i]It's also a tremendous badge of honour to be banned from... [/i]

but not all people who are banned start 'Do you know who I am?' (to which the traditional response is 'Ask Matron, she'll rtell you.') type correspondence with the site owners...

I think it's a feature of all very busy forums tbh that it gets a bit 'rowdy' - I used to go on DogsOnAcid (a drum and bass forum) when it was really busy and there was at least as bad arguments and trolling etc.

It can be harsh on here and the arguments can get annoying (I'm trying my best to stay out of political threads now) but the level of info you get on here is pretty mind-blowing at times, not just bike related either. I've met some sound people off here too.

And Junkyard.

but the level of misanthropic BS you get on here is pretty mind-blowing at times, not just bike related either.

i don't post as much as i used to, to many threads turn into a bitchfest.

there's a lot of good people on here and only a few cocks! but they seem to post a lot! maybe they crave the attention?
tj is very opinionated/passionate (i don't always agree) but never comes across as rude or abusive. (stubborn tho 😀 ) if more people behaved like him we could have some great discussions/arguments without the childish name calling!
sorry to single you out tj.

It is indeed a nasty bitchy flame of a place

Seriously... you really think this?

It's all a bit of a laugh isn't it? Save for a very small minority I would say everyone is sound on here.

There are some topics that you just don't read if you're not interested in the argument. The topics generally cycle with clockwork frequency... you read them the first time and then ignore them as you know what's going to be said. If those that post enjoy them... great. If you don't enjoy it, start a thread about something you do enjoy talking about.

Who's for a 'where does your username come from?' thread?

G.R.F - you didn't do yourself any favours as a newcomer with the whole 'spd' thread, though?

most people get a bit of gentle ribbing when they're new on here and as they've been around a bit and known then it can get more pointed but it's very rarely malicious. Most of the worst insults are between people who ride together fairly regularly.

the forum has seemed a bit more hostile recently, i blame binners and jamie.

I can't say I've had a laugh out loud tear jerker from here ever

you sir, obviously missed the thread in which i pulled out this beauty. i let out a tear i found myself so funny.

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Phil - that is hilarious. Truly side splitting bed wettingly hilarious.

ROFLMAO, hahahahahahaaaa

(Is that good enough for you?)

yeti, you've got 14 minutes to edit your post so it agrees with me that i'm hilaaaaaaaaarious for posting the above lolcat. i'll then edit this post so it looks like nufinks up. got it? xx

Why can't everyone play nice on here ?

The Southern Yeti - Member
G.R.F - so you're a travelling downhiller/mtb enthusiast/only just heard about dropper posts/ bigoted troll... as you were.

[url= http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/hazards-cynicism ]''There are no successful cynics''[/url]

I recall my first post here which was a call to arms over the frikken high cost of air travel with sports equipment and weight restriction, it got pretty toasted as I recall

if not flame away

GRF - I am not surprised you find this place unwelcoming. You have been antagonistic and unpleasant right from the beginning of your time on here and don't contribute anything positive at all - either funny or informative.

aracer Also notable that people are generally quite happy to lay down arms and help out people they were arguing with earlier. Are you really suggesting that people on here aren't helpful when you ask a question

this ios very true and what helps stop it degenerating into a bear pit.

GRF vs TJ

*might have to crack out the jammie dodgers for this one*

Ah - I'm older and wiser now!

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G.R.F - I don't care, I've got friends who are bigots. If you set out to offend and people get offended.... mleh...

Cup of tea Phil?

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[i]If you set out to offend and people get offended[/i]

which is all very well until you get offended that, not only were they offended by your deliberate attempts to offend them, but they chose to take action to stop it happening again.

See, in my world... how much of mincer you are... it's not about the pedals, or the lycra.. it's about how quickly you can make it to the bottom.

[i]perhaps he is a bit like me after all...[/i]

well, I'm not the UK face for several quite large bike brands so we're not quite the same 😉

Pronghorn 😆

LOL - hook us up with a Covert then 😉

Has the blindside been replaced by the TR250 for 2011/2012 or will the Blindside still be available? as the TR won't take a front mech.

I'd suggest that 90-95% of all forum content (the bitching stuff) is nothing more than the amygdala hijacking the higher brain. I'd also go as far as to say that folk's 'virtual personality' is a mile from their everyday persona. Take me for instance; I'm kind, loving, generous, a sensitive & considerate lover, bright...very bright actually......

....but in the real world?

G.R.F - I'm not spiteful but you linked yourself professionally to what you say in here by includign your work email address in your profile - there's inevitably going to be some 'bleed' of perception from one to the other?

My view of you is that you come on here to wind people up a bit because it's a way of lettign off steam. Some things that might be ok to say when you're out with your mates on a ride come across differently on here and, frankly, make you look like a bit of a nob. But, I realise that it's more about the context of where and what you've said than any essential 'nobness' that you might have - you're probably a bit of a laugh and a nice bloke.

But trying to troll on a 'let's be nice to each other' thread is bound to get a reaction, no 🙂

Anyway, must go - I'm off out with my SPD's tonight.

How you instantly tell the mettle of the man is how he makes his first impression. And you failed at the first hurdle

Couldn't agree more.

To a newcomer it is a nob rich environment.

Especially if you're a bit of a nob yourself..

In that sense, your arrival on here has 'enriched' the place a hundred fold.... 🙂

What i wanna know is: has anyone bummed each of the forum cos its getting very Blue Oyster in here!

Blue Oyster?
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RHSno2 - Member
What i wanna know is: has anyone bummed each of the forum cos its getting very Blue Oyster in here!

I have a feeling you're about to get [s]bummed[/s] banned.

The difference was here I'm new and like every forum you ever go on it's '* off newbie', just here the * off was very very inappropriate

however it is more a nasty place than it is a nice one

The difference was here I'm new and like every forum you ever go on it's '* off newbie', just here the * off was very very inappropriate

Strange that someone who makes such anti-PC trolling first posts is so sensitive. 😕

G.R.F. - Member

The difference was here I'm new and like every forum you ever go on it's '* off newbie', just here the * off was very very inappropriate,

Nope - its not "**** off newbie", its "**** off unpleasant trolling asshat"

<applause> for TJ!

You see, GRF, we can be really friendly on here.

Too much testosterone round here..
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I've met loads STW'ers in the real world.

They've all, without exception, been very pleasant, even the ones I can't stand online. 🙂

I'll see your cute panda and raise you an otter
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Like the top one McHamish. Please bookmark it and post it and us guilty parties

How you instantly tell the metal of the man is how he reacts to having the piss taken, and you lot failed at the first hurdle.

but for some folk it's a bum or be bummed world...
I've had to bum five people today just to put dinner on the table.. 🙁

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hehe...very good TJ

that cat is scaring me.