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The cheaper frames couldn't go fast enough 18 months ago, and everybody loves them. Yet frames and bikes in the classifieds appear not to sell, despite some very keen pricing.
So why is this? Is it because of a move to other sized wheels, or something else?
Having trouble selling one ?
People not wanting to buy a Yeti without a warranty?
Ramsey Neil - Member
Having trouble selling one?
Not yet...
How cheap? Probably not keen enough if they aren't selling.
Getting on a bit now and no longer in the yeti range, and a few places doing cheap clearance deals on old stock too. Probably still quite a bit of cash SH and can see people holding on until new wheel sizes start hitting the second hand market.
Not enough middle aged IT consultants looking for them? 😮
Not enough middle aged IT consultants looking for them?
I doubt they frequent the classifieds. Too busy buying Santa Cruz with compromise wheel sizes. Much excitement in other threads about new colours apparently.
Short travel 26" bikes are about the hardest to sell at the moment, don't get your hopes up for a big windfall.
You could try putting a stealth ad in the bike forum though?
😉
Unfashionable wheel size doesn't help - not that it has ever made them anything but great to ride.
Keep it.
Probably because Yeti have re-imagineered it to make it 6.2% better and everyone is waiting for that to be released to market.
I may just be cynical though.... 😆
Keep it.
As far as mines concerned it's not up for sale pending an experiment with a layback seatpost.
But I'm just wondering why the reluctance now, I guess as you say the wheels/ bike is now out of fashion. You think £1250 for an XT/Thompson/fox/Stan's 5" bike as was in the classifieds last week would be a bargain for someone.
I find Pinkbike far better for selling bikes/frames than here.
Doesnt crc have cheap yeti frames at the moment?
Only one odd sized when I looked a few days ago.
Wheelbase in Cumbria have one for £999. Very nice. I can see why people aren't snapping them up - price. Asking £600+ for a frame that is nice but not 'hot' etc isn't going to sell.
Theres a bloke selling a battered-one without a shock for £500 --->
Wow. I'd personally advertise that one at £250.
[i]People not wanting to buy a Yeti without a warranty?[/i]
Definitely this for me. Although my 575 is way beyond warranty life (and the bastard won't break!), I wouldn't trust one of those carbon back end jobs without some back up.
You think £1250 for an XT/Thompson/fox/Stan's 5" bike as was in the classifieds last week would be a bargain for someone.
£500 for the frame (if that). What does the other £750 buy you?
120mm travel 26" full susser frames - email me, I'm after one........
You think £1250 for an XT/Thompson/fox/Stan's 5" bike as was in the classifieds last week would be a bargain for someone.£500 for the frame (if that). What does the other £750 buy you?
You don't think a fox float, entire XT group set, 2 x hope /crests and Thompson kit is worth £750? Or please feel free to highlight and equivalent bike rrp that you'd buy instead.
Out of interest - what would you be willing to pay for an asr5 at that spec?
Christ almighty
MAKE YOUR BLOODY MIND UP!
What's your problem? I know what your referring to and his is an entirely different conversation. Please wind your neck in.
Secondhand 26ers have to be really nice to get much over £1k now. Especially if a few years old.
That's just how it is. No point getting your knickers in a twist about it.
an entirely different conversation
Hmmm.
No offence meant, just banter - apologies for any offence caused. I'm enjoyng your ongoing procrastination. Really the ti hardtail is the root cause of your 'problem' though isn't it?
Wheel size is the killer though. (sadly)
Fwiw chakaping I'm not. I'm just wondering if it's 26", and I only picked the yeti as I have one and therefore those have been catching my eye in the classifieds.
It's and interesting statement then to imply that the industry has devalued 26ers by introducing other sizes and/or implying specific use for the wheel sizes. Why then isn't the everyday man up in arms about his devalued stock and happily throwing £1000's into a forced market trend?
Speeder - MemberPeople not wanting to buy a Yeti without a warranty?
Must be a consideration tbh, I'd think twice about buying a Yeti[i] with[/i] a warranty.
Can't sell my ASR5C. Maybe due to wheelsize, high price for a 2nd hand bike, no warranty, time of year, etc, etc.
Advertised here without interest. Advertised on eBay with offers but when considering fees not enough. A full bike with lesser spec than mine sold for £2070 last week. So there is a market.....somewhere 🙂
Maybe I'm being unrealistic....
If it does not sell in the next few days I'll try and sell via auction with reserved price and if not, strip and sell.
thestabiliser - Member
an entirely different conversation
Hmmm.No offence meant, just banter - apologies for any offence caused. I'm enjoyng your ongoing procrastination. Really the ti hardtail is the root cause of your 'problem' though isn't it?
I'm pretty much done with procrastination tbh. And not really as it's not about the bike is it - Guy Martin came second in his first Strathpuffer riding not particular light pair of Orange bikes.
You don't think a fox float, entire XT group set, 2 x hope /crests and Thompson kit is worth £750? Or please feel free to highlight and equivalent bike rrp that you'd buy instead.Out of interest - what would you be willing to pay for an asr5 at that spec?
Depends how old it is,both the frame and the components,what wheels etc,but it would have to be pretty minty with "fresh" components to get anywhere near £1250.
Average use, average condition,then about £900 give or take.
Was it yours?
There seemto be an increasing number of these grumbly stealth "for sale" threads masquerading as naive astonishment that someone's pride and joy isn't selling.
Anyone want to buy a Ventana? No tyre kickers or silly offers!
Was it yours?
Nope.
It's and interesting statement then to imply that the industry has devalued 26ers by introducing other sizes and/or implying specific use for the wheel sizes. Why then isn't the everyday man up in arms about his devalued stock and happily throwing £1000's into a forced market trend?
What every man? Shop owners? They hardly have any 26" bikes left anyway, or the casual consumer, who is either getting rid of 26" as fast as possible, or hoovering up the parts as others jump ship.
Why then isn't the everyday man up in arms about his devalued stock and happily throwing £1000's into a forced market trend?
Because it's a mountain bike, not a business investment that I expect to make a return for me?
I've got an ASR5, I plan to ride it until it's dead, I'd guess that most people are the same. They buy a bike and they ride it. They're not constantly monitoring the second hand market to determine the optimum time to sell or cursing 'the industry' for knocking £200 off the value of their used bike.
Took weeks for me to sell this. Thought it was an absolute bargain too @£1,350
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/very-nice-yeti-asr-5-build-manchester-loads-of-pics
4-5 years ago you could apply the 80/20 rule to those who owned 26" bikes. Now, some of those will have embraced 29er for specific reasons - like you did. But, what about those who had no [i]need[/i] to buy a different wheels sized bike? The industry has basically said, "screw you, everything you invested in is worth sod all*"
This is different to an "I invested in the wrong thing" issue, no one made a silly decison buying a 26er they had no choice, so they've been pushed into a devalued market by the industry.
But then again, I guess not mtbs could be seen as an investment so is it fair to say they are effectively disposable?
*assuming you want to sell it.
Edit - a it late to respond.
Kryton57 - MemberWhy then isn't the everyday man up in arms about his devalued stock and happily throwing £1000's into a forced market trend?
Most people are still riding around on 26 inch bikes. If you buy a new bike today it'll have bigger wheels but that doesn't imply people are happilly throwing money at a trend- it's just the choice that you have now. A lot of people [i]are [/i]pissed off about it though. It stopped me buying a new bike this year.
I think you get a distorted view of what's what from internet forums, by definition we're the enthusiasts but out in the wild 650b is still rare.
But I'm just wondering why the reluctance now, I guess as you say the wheels/ bike is now out of fashion. You think £1250 for an XT/Thompson/fox/Stan's 5" bike as was in the classifieds last week would be a bargain for someone.
I can't find the ad for this. do you have a link?
Why is it worth less if its 26'er?
I personally think the ASR's selling 'problems' are alot bigger than its wheelsize.
A decent 26'er Santa Cruz will always find a buyer (or be switchable to 850b).
As Cotic said "26 ain't dead" it's just not worth much
Why is it worth less if its 26'er?
Really? Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really that out of touch with current "fashions/trends/forced marketing strategies?
i know someone who's broken three ally rear triangles. all in the same place. no ta.
I think the double whammy of buying an expensive framed bike with no warranty and the 'quiet' future of 26" would put a lot of people off, however if you're prepared to go without warranty and be a few % less enduro than everyone else on 160mm 27.5 bikes in the car park then its a hell of a great bike for not much money.
i know someone who's broken three ally rear triangle
obviously isn't an ASR5 then...
Really? Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really that out of touch with current "fashions/trends/forced marketing strategies?
If customers historically struggled with 26" wheels, they never felt quite right etc then I could understand the need to get rid/people to desert the size however most 26'er frames CAN fit 650B wheels. So they aren't redundant- ontop of this alot of 26'er frames are proven/good secondhand purchases.
The rush for 650b is driven by people wanting [b]new[/b] frame/bikes.
Still waiting hopefully for a link to the £1250 ASR5 on the classifieds..
I sold mine for less than £1250.
That stung slightly...
however [s]most [/s] some 26'er frames CAN fit 650B wheels
Not most at all.
Agree with bigjim. The ASR5 is a very capable bike. A great bike in fact. The only time I felt out of my depth was on the baby DH runs in Verbier. Which resulted in injury 🙂
Perfect for the UK. Just not 'bang on trend' anymore.
The reason for my sale is due to commitments not trends. Granted I have a steel 29er HT but this now suits me, my riding and when I get to ride. The Yeti has not been ridden since Aug '13 for injury, baby, house reasons.
Am I being unrealistic asking for £2k for a 2nd hand bike? The spec is reasonably high. My logic; frame £1100, forks £300, wheels £200, reverb £150, Easton/Thomson/XT/XTR £250.
Someone please tell me the error of my ways 🙂
hora - Membermost 26'er frames CAN fit 650B wheels.
Some can, with tiny tyres. Fewer can fit them with proper tyres, at which point you're screwing up the geometry. All in all you have to be a mug to buy a 26 inch frame with the intent of fitting 650b wheels.
I look forward to them being devalued even more so I can pick up a nice second hand ASR5c (frame only, in small) for peanuts. It'll replace my alu frame which, since it won't be worth anything, I'll keep 'just in case'.
The spec is reasonably high. My logic; frame £1100, forks £300, wheels £200, reverb £150, Easton/Thomson/XT/XTR £250.
You'd probably get more if you split it and sold it for parts.
I think that's my next step mrblobby
I've got an ASR5, I plan to ride it until it's dead, I'd guess that most people are the same.
Yup.
CRC *did* have lots more sizes when I was being tempted a fortnight ago. I think they were around the £1k mark, with that all important warranty.
I decided to keep my mark1 nomad when I looked at prices they were going for, and the fact its in brilliant condition for its age (combination of many bikes and Hampshire not really having terrain to challenge it...)
I might get a respray and pretend its a new bike....
most 26'er frames CAN fit 650B wheels.
No chance of getting anything bigger than a 26" wheel into my ASR5 frame without some kind of low profile tyre, there is jack all clearance as it is.
I've got an ASR5, I plan to ride it until it's dead, I'd guess that most people are the same.
Me too
Most people are still riding around on 26 inch bikes. If you buy a new bike today it'll have bigger wheels but that doesn't imply people are happilly throwing money at a trend- it's just the choice that you have now. A lot of people are pissed off about it though. It stopped me buying a new bike this year.I think you get a distorted view of what's what from internet forums, by definition we're the enthusiasts but out in the wild 650b is still rare.
+1
I think a lot of people are still probably in a bit of a "holding pattern", already owning very good (if a little [i]Passe[/i]) 26" bikes...
Those will keep going for a good long while as the MTB market settles down, and a bit of "life extension" for these [i]old nags[/i] simply involves a few clicks on Merlin for a fresh Group/Brake/Wheelset and a not too steep bill Vs buying a whole new bike, or even buying a nice used frame and re-kitting that for a small fortune...
So when someone starts eyeing up a used ASR 5 frame for ~£500 they know they'll end up spending at least three times as much again building it, at which point they start browsing what's new in the world of 'tweener wheeled bikes and decide that perhaps 18 months of simply saving, and riding what you already own isn't such a terrible idea...
Used (and probably new) 26" frames/bikes are a bit of a buyer's market right now (IMO)...
wrecker - Member
I've got an ASR5, I plan to ride it until it's dead, I'd guess that most people are the same.Yup.
Yup +2, that's why I specced my ASR5c as well as I did - I'd just come in to a windfall and it's the "bike for life".
Am I being unrealistic asking for £2k for a 2nd hand bike? The spec is reasonably high. My logic; frame £1100, forks £300, wheels £200, reverb £150, Easton/Thomson/XT/XTR £250.
havent looked up prices for your other components, but you can (or rather could a month ago when I bought one) buy a brand new reverb for £160, so I'd say for a start your reverb price is 50% too high.
Am I being unrealistic asking for £2k for a 2nd hand bike? The spec is reasonably high. My logic; frame £1100, forks £300, wheels £200, reverb £150, Easton/Thomson/XT/XTR £250.
They do sound high for second hand - what forks and wheels are they?
It's and interesting statement then to imply that the industry has devalued 26ers by introducing other sizes and/or implying specific use for the wheel sizes. Why then isn't the everyday man up in arms about his devalued stock and happily throwing £1000's into a forced market trend?
I took a bath when I sold my 26" frames this year. I wouldn't dream about getting "up in arms" about it, frankly I have bigger things to worry about.
And fortunately I've managed to replace them for around the same price with bikes that suit my new location better (and maybe a bit less blingy).
I would not pay thousands for a frame or bike , secondhand in a private sale . in a shop , maybe as you ll get some sort of warranty .
@rudedog...
Forks: 2013 Fox 32 Float 140 CTD QR15 Kashima – White
Wheels: Hope Pro II Evo / Stans Flow wheel set - QR15 F / 142x12 R
There are more capable bikes out there for 4 figures new?
Given the choice between £1250 for a used Yeti and £1600 for a new bike I'd rather save up and buy a new bike. You'll probably get some people who *really* want one, and I was one of those a while back, but I'd struggle to justify it now.
Forks: 2013 Fox 32 Float 140 CTD QR15 Kashima – White
Wheels: Hope Pro II Evo / Stans Flow wheel set - QR15 F / 142x12 R
I dont think your prices are that high, but they dont really represent particularly good value either.
For example, I picked up a set of hope pro/flow wheels on ebay for £85 delivered last month. My brother got a set of reba world cup and roval al wheels on here for £200 combined. Maybe people know there are good deals to be had?
If someone wants to sell me an ASR 5 frame in large for under £500 I'd be happy with one 😉