[Closed] Whos quicker

The 10 stone bloke. 15 stone is not racing weight.

Chris hoy is nearly 15 stone.

Too many variables. flip a coin

Best power to weight ratio wins. Gives us this info and we'll tell you who will win.

15 st bloke on 26 lb bike 😉

We're missing the most important point here.

There's an apostrophe missing in the thread title.

How many punctures/mechanicals does each one get, can they fix them and do they carry the right tools or does the 10st bloke think that saving weight by not carrying spare tube, multi tool will make him faster?

i would go 10 stone bloke.

I'm a 14+ stone bloke myself and relatively fit but any race i enter that involves endurance ie fell running, i am always beaten by people much lighter.

Down hill i reckon weight would be an advantage (assuming equal skill/bike) but on the flat and uphill weight is a disadvantage. and bigger muscles use more energy so the heavier guy would burn out faster (more muscle doing the work to move greater mass). The bike is such a small percentage of overall bike/rider/kit weight the extra 3kg/6lb probably won't make much difference.

The one with the better technique.

Edit: Magnus Backstedt was almost 15 stone and he won Paris Roubaix

The winner will be quicker.

My money's on the big dude

Stupid question - too many variables, it's not even as simple as:

large418 - Member

Best power to weight ratio wins. Gives us this info and we'll tell you who will win.

Both are fit and of average build, in the correct weight range for their height, both ride regularly.

How can 2 people, with a 50% weigh variation, both be 'average build'. If one is a giant, one is a dwarf, one is really fat/proper hench etc they're not both of average build.

Best power to weight ratio [s]wins[/s] will go up hill the fastest, on the colossal assumption that all other elements are equal

FTFY.

Power to weight has to be taken with a pinch of salt here. Chris Hoy is 15 stone ish but will have a huge power output (remember power is defined in it's most simple for as fast strength) and a very high power to weight ratio. But he won't win many XC races though as the provide that power he will use a lot of energy quickly.

So the answer the question, the answer is "it depends".

proper hench

You down wit da yoof blud?

I'm 10 stone 6'1 and a mate a ride with is about 16 stone and 5 foot something, up hills and over long distances I'm quicker but for short sprints on the flat he's considerably faster than I am, I just can't generate the short term power that he can.

Can the 15 stone bloke use his elbows, shoulders, or lean in at any point of the race ?

"fast strength"?
Power is the rate at which energy is tranferred, or work is done.
In cycling terms, power to weight ratio is not usually calculated using your absolute peak power output. So Chris Hoy will have an extremely high peak power over a short time period, but a relatively poor endurance power to weight ratio because he is a big, heavy rider, designed for speed on the flat.

From http://wattbike.com/uk/guide/using_the_wattbike/power_to_weight_ratio

[i]As an example, world class male sprint cyclists typically weigh over 80 Kgs and in some cases over 90 Kgs and are capable of peak power scores in the range 1750-2250 W and max minute power of 360-400W. Conversely world class male endurance cyclists typically weigh closer to 70-75 Kgs and whilst producing lower peak power scores of 1000-1250W have a much higher max minute power score of 420-500W.[/i]

So you can't tell who is going to win the hypothetical event from their body and bike weights alone, but I'd go for the person with the best power to weight ratio, assuming you factor the difference in bike weight into the calculation.

c'mon, the answer is whoever has armstrong's "medical" team

Is either of them going to be using a conveyor belt at any time during the race?

Magnus Backstedt was almost 15 stone and he won Paris Roubaix

He did struggle though up Horseblock Hollow in Surrey on the ToB!

Answer the guy on the butcher's bike would be quicker.

These are exactly the kind of answers I was expecting 😀
Ask a stupid question,expect a stupid answer.

@njee20- both are of average build for their height. Not overweight or underweight.

@njee20- both are of average build for their height. Not overweight or underweight.

So the 15 stone bloke is about 6'9"? Doesn't sound all that average to me.

Chris hoy is nearly 15 stone.

a really tall bloke can still have an average weight.

What tyres?

But personally I'd say 'build' includes height - if I saw an article saying someone was 'average build' I'd not be thinking of someone of 6'9". Anyway, semantics.

I'm 6'4" and hover around 15 stone, depending on the current pie/mileage ratio.

I suggest someone lends* me a 20lb bike, we find a suitable 10 stone man with 26lb bike, then pop up to Cannock one weekend and put these theories to the test. FOR SCIENCE.

*I'll try not to break it. Promise.

aracer - Member
Chris hoy is nearly 15 stone.

I'd put my money on him if the XC race is 200m long.

Chris Hoy's thighs weigh 4 stone each the rest of him is pretty light.

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