[Closed] Who should say hello?

I have been riding my croix de fer about in the peaks and after years of riding a mtb and being ignored by most roadies they now say hello.

Tbh a bit too much really - didnt know how much I enjoyed the peace, although sometimes it bugged me as we are all cyclists after all.

Weirdly they also say hi when I ride my mtb in a vest I have which is a bit floaty and see through, it may work for you too - lovely pink chiffon type fabric I bet it would suit you 😉

I always say hello, then shout Miserable bastard really loud if they refuse to converse, 99% of riders do actually pass the time of day, only the fat ones in SKY kit dont, at the end of the day its about riding bikes not trying to make enemies, there's been a lot of angst over the decades between fat & thin wheels,

I've offered a roadie a pedal on a proper bike once when he passed and said all those gears and you can't keep up !
We swapped bikes for a few miles and I loved his sleek skinny wheels, strangely enough he hated my full susser ?

Strange fellow ?

Always always say hello, its just manners.

Momma taught me well

I can't believe how many MTBers don't say hello on the track. Even a smile and a nob would be nice.

Only new to the sport and been out a out 4 times. Only had 2 out of about 50 riders say hello back. One actually asked me if I was ok (I was doing a trackside repair).

One of the last riders I said hello to (as I rode past) almost looked pi$$ed off that I even spoke to him!

I don't get it??

Apparently manners slow you down on the road, as far as I can tell.

EDIT: Steam gives way to sail.

I can't believe how many MTBers don't say hello on the track. Even a smile and a nob would be nice.

Well I know Cannock is famed for its dogging, but asking for a smile and a nob on a trail is a bit forward, surely?

adjustablewench

Weirdly they also say hi when I ride my mtb in a vest I have which is a bit floaty and see through

Now, I'm not going to make any judgements about what's under your floaty, see through vest, but my guess is that it's because it's see through. And you're a girl.

As Sherlock would say "that's a one pipe mystery, Watson"

😉

damn! I meant "smile and a NOD" !!!

not interested in any nobs.

Any other riders I see I stop them for a chat, suggest a coffee and invite them to be my FB friend then maybe invite them on holiday with me if we're really getting on. Draw the line at a nob though...

Lol @psling

Anyway, why is anyone obliged to speak to you, as the phrase goes..

" just because we both ride bicycles doesn't mean I have to like you"

The only time I'll definately speak is if the other party looks in trouble with a mechanical, otherwise I'm enjoying my ride thanks.

@bigblackshed - a substantial sports bra! But yes the floaty vest does make me look more girly than usual.

Never say hello, it's absolute nonsense. Are we supposed to say hello to every pedestrian when we are walking or every motorist when we drive anywhere.

So you'll chat to strangers on a forum who share a common interest in bikes - but won't consider saying hello to cyclists in the real world . . .

I'm not on a bike when surfing the forum

I always like to say hi when seeing another cyclists except when there not wearing a helmet as their to stupid to acknowledge.

I've always wondered what is under a girls vest.

As far as saying hello goes I'll usually nod to other cyclists but I don't expect them all to nod back, they're not my mates and probably just not as friendly. That's fine.

'They're too stupid' would look less ironic in that sentance 🙂

Edit: sorry I appear to have come over all STW, criticising grammar . . . I'll be debating wheel sizes next.

Oh the grammar police are out 🙄

adjustablewench

In the spirit of The Mary Whitehouse Experience:

"STW, that's you that is"

flippinheckler
Oh the grammar police are out

The only place for poor grammar and, dare I say it, punctuation, is in a rant. Along with random capitalisation and swearing. Standards dear boy, standards.

adjustablewench - Member

'They're too stupid' would look less ironic in that sentance

ooh the ironing

I was out with my mate the other week, me in my CXbike and him on his FS bike, on a linking bit of blacktop we came across a guy on a road bike, he nodded & raised a hand to me and completly blanked my mate!!

I try to say 'ello to everyone when I'm riding, but aren't too bothered if I don't get one back

Edit: sorry I appear to have come over all STW, criticising grammar

Given the irony of the particlar case above I think you are permitted in this instance 😉

...you let someone overtake you?

Never say hello, it's absolute nonsense. Are we supposed to say hello to every pedestrian when we are walking

Erm.. yeah? I generally say "Hello", "Morning" or whatever to folk when I'm out walking too.

Civilised ain't it?

I nod and smile usually, no smile if grinding uphill, if they don't acknowledge it's no skin off my back!

When I see a family of cyclists and Daddy's not wearing a helmet I like to rap my knuckles on mine and give Daddy a 'uggghhh' as I pass, hypocritical jerk.

Nod an acknowledgement to all cyclists I encounter (only get a response from about 50% though I guess), but really only talk to them if they're trying to fix something on the trail/road side to check they're OK.

Apparently manners slow you down on the road, as far as I can tell

Surprises me how few MTB ers notice the roadie nod/finger waggle

Say hello to everyone if they dont respond I dont get upset about it it just means I am friendlier than they are

As for the situation as they have definitely seen you

Apparently manners slow you down on the road, as far as I can tell

Surprises me how few MTB ers notice the roadie nod/finger waggle

Say hello to everyone if they dont respond I dont get upset about it it just means I am friendlier than they are

As for the situation as they have definitely seen you

I always say hello whatever bike im on and if i dont get a reply i like to just say cheer up it might never happen, or im sorry i cant stand around talking to you all day, or its no wonder you ride on your own

I left school at 15 without any qualifications that includes Englush! 😀

I always say hello whatever bike im on and if i dont get a reply i like to just say cheer up it might never happen, or im sorry i cant stand around talking to you all day, or its no wonder you ride on your own

you must ride very slowly to get all that in!

At the speed i cycle, the doppler shift makes me sound funny, so i never so hello to anyone................... 😉

On the red route at Dalbeattie last week - quite a social gathering when catching/ caught up by other riders. Most pleasant and added much to the day. Especially a mutual gibber at the sight of The Slab. (no I did not 🙂 )

I am also a tourist, and always like to meet and compare notes with heavilly laden cyclists met on the road.

I always say hello, but if folk don't respond I couldn't give a shit, they're fully entitled not to, either because they're enjoying their ride, they're deaf mute, or they're a tosser. It's a little sad that folk actually feel the need to come and moan about it on here!

I was chatting to a couple of guy at Leith Hill yesterday, who after ascertaining the carbon FS was mine, noted I was doing an MTB ride and taken some advice on the pressure he should run his newly tublessised tyres asked "so are you a roadie?", must admit I didn't quite know how to respond 😕

I say hello to most people unless I'm having trouble breathing or gurning my way up a climb... as others have said it's just friendly... i do it whilst walking too, not on the high street really but if in the middle of nowhere hiking and you see someone else i say hello.

Also when climbing and mountaineering in general people are much friendlier don't think I've ever come across a group of fellow climbers that haven't said hello... even when they speak different languages.

GrahamS - Member

Never say hello, it's absolute nonsense. Are we supposed to say hello to every pedestrian when we are walking

Erm.. yeah? I generally say "Hello", "Morning" or whatever to folk when I'm out walking too.

Civilised ain't it?

Yup me too..

Good to see the helmet trolls out in force on this thread. 🙄

Was [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/helmet-on-road ]one helmet debate[/url] not enough this month?

Right, the next cyclist who says 'hello' to me is going to get his face smashed in the the first bicycle related item I can pull out of my back pack. I just hope is isnt a small Allen key or an energy gel as I'll have quite a job on my hands...

Yikes!! can you tell us what you look like and what you ride - will then avoid acknowledging anyone who fits that description

who should say hello?

nice people

end of thread

Like an unhappy version of Goldie 😉

Dr Nick...?

I don't really say hello any more, simply because I have a bandana on my face to keep the flies out of my mouth.

However I give a nod to acknowledge another riders existence, although that depends on where I am: If say I'm on a canal tow path where I'm likely to come across many cyclists I simply won't bother reacting at all. But if I'm somewhere remote and I haven't seen another human being for 2 hours and out pops a guy/girl on a 5 then I'll probably give a mildly surprised "Hi there!".

I always acknowledge other riders, what gets me is when someone overtakes you, on eigher the trail or road but doesn't say anything. No hi or passing right/left. If I know your there I'll make more room for ypu, but if you come past and surprise me don't get upset if I accidently pullout in front of you.

Ah, people who change riding line, stop or turn without checking around them for other riders - that's a whole new debate... 😉

Ride out in the Dolomites, roadie Italians in white Lycra always say Hi 😆

I rarely see anyone else out whilst on my rides, I must be going far too fast to notice them.

I just shout "strava"

Right, the next cyclist who says 'hello' to me is going to get his face smashed in the the first bicycle related item I can pull out of my back pack. I just hope is isnt a small Allen key or an energy gel as I'll have quite a job on my hands...

That's even more sad than moaning about people not saying hello.

I think you need a hug.

Do you stop to nob or pedal and nob?

Are we supposed to say hello to every pedestrian

round these parts? aye.

I always great cyclists, walkers, and horsists when I'm out. the miserable walkers [i]hate it[/i] when a mtber is pleasant and chatty.

Better than 9 out of 10 folks say hello (or at least nod) to each other where I ride regardless of whether or not I'm riding a mountain bike or a road bike. Maybe you should move to the lakes... 🙂

"Alright?" when on mountain bike, obvious nod when on the road bike, scowl when on the commuter.

What's the group etiquette though? You're in a string of riders passing walkers/whatever, does everyone say hello & get a response, just the lead rider or what? It's clearly of the utmost importance that this sort of thing is clarified!

Having lived in the Midlands, up north and the south east of England. I have to say that the most unfriendy/least courteous people I've encountered are down south, least hellos, nods etc
Although on the whole people can be quite miserable overall here. I lived in NZ for a year and on my return here I had to curb/relearn my friendliness to strangers. Everyone tends to be super friendly in NZ.

Off to Scotland next month... what should I expect?

midgies

What's the group etiquette though?

The established protocol is a tapered response. Hello > Hi > nod > smile > finger > head down. This is proportional to the alpha status and respect they deserve for leading the group.

This "you don't say hello to every pedestrian when you're walking" thing doesn't hold water. You're right, you don't. But when you're miles out in the countryside, engaged in a pretty niche activity, and you come across someone who is like mindedly enjoying that passtime why wouldn't you?

Your logic could apply to passing someone as you're trekking the Sahara alone. Or climbing Everest. Or on the moon.

Doesn't hurt anyone to be friendly.

I only say hello to other good-looking people.

What's the group etiquette though?
The established protocol is a tapered response. Hello > Hi > nod > smile > finger > head down. This is proportional to the alpha status and respect they deserve for leading the group.

Cycling makes me happy and feel more communal. This means I smile and say hello, a lot.

Always try to say "hiya / morning / y'right" to walkers, bikers, horseyists, bird watchers, scramblers, or whoever. Just seems the right thing to do 🙂

Not that fussed when I don't get one back (usually Mr. Rapha / SKY team kit, miserable *****) though.

Pretty much always say hello, nod or acknowledge any other riders. I also save the friendliest "hellos" for grumpy dog walkers - they just hate the friendliness!

There is an exception to this whole hello business that i don't like though. Cycling up a long, boring climb, focused solely on getting to the top, some twit comes past (as if your cycling through treacle) and his cheery hello wakes you from your daydream and scares the living daylights out of you!

Ok, so that's just me then! 🙂

I like Pook's response.

For me, its about the location. If I'm hammering it to the station in the morning, on the way to work, I'm not going to bother waving, blowing kisses or screaming hello to everyone I pass who may also happen to be on a bike (whether they are wearing a helmet, riding a BSO or whatever)

BUT, if I'm rattling along a remote path in the Cairngorms, Lakes or wherever I'm much more likely to wave, or heaven forbid, even stop and have a quick natter, exactly as I would if I was out running or walking in the same area.

It's polite, civilised and costs nothing.

Goes both ways to be honest. I ride my Roadie and MTB in equal measures. I say hello/acknowledge all riders.. I get MTB riders ignoring me on the Roadie, and Roadies ignoring me on the MTB.

Really doesn't bother me if they don't acknowledge... I do think the roadie side is far more cantankerous / snobby though. I got heckled today by some other roadies earlier as I had my deepset carbons on.. Funnily enough I probably overtook them at twice the speed they were riding.. (I got KOM) I don't understand?!?

Edited to remove horrendous Americanism.

+1 for the grumpy dog walkers, and the two walking pole brigade. 🙂

Horse riders though, what about them? Borderline for me first because they are usually youngish girls and I don't want to appear creepy. Secondly I hate horses, smelly, scarey and make my eyes swell up. I usually wait for them to initiate and begrudgingly respond.

you should always give a confident and cheery hello to the riders of the apocalypse.. it puts their steeds at ease apparently.. sneaking up on a horse is often what causes them to panic.. (as well as bees, flowers, gentle breezes, ants, stones etc etc etc)

I asked a very good looking lady in jodhpurs for directions once whilst she was upon a magnificent steed...

I was all smiley and cool.. forgot to unclip and fell over. Yes, I do believe I impressed her.

Horse riders though, what about them?

I generally get around your concerns by saying hello to the horse (as someone once told me that was good practise to avoid startling them)

I tend to shout "Hey horse", which probably just confuses it. Like shouting "Biscuit dog".

Bit bloody needy if you ask me.

Although I generally nod/wave/cheesy grin/say hi to cyclists/walkers/horsists when out on the bike.

"Hi!", to bike helmet wearers.
A nod to all other cyclists that acknowledge me, and horse riders.
"Lovely weather" to locals and walkers, or something else appropriate.
"Aw.. nice dog!", to dog walkers who make the effort to call the dog.
"Hello!" is reserved for Lionel Richie.

when you are in the supermarket, or walking down a busy highstreet...

do you say hello to all those fellow shoppers? no of course you don't

A nod,a wave, a smile, a hello costs nothing. The serious looking roadies round here are often the most friendly even when I am wheezing my hairy legs and seat pack and helmet peak along on my cheap and cheerful road bike. Go figure, this is in central southern england.

I grew up in a touring family it was manners. Out on the roads and trails we share a common interest and set of risks. This is why its not the same as randomly greeting people in tesco.

Passed a bloke on a Giant Anthem earlier today who barely acknowledged me. A few miles further on a bunch of roadies came past, all smiles and cheerfulness. A couple wanted to know about my bike and where I was riding. Nice bunch.

If you go in with the attitude that everyone you see gets a cheery smile then you can't really go wrong.

It's the same if you have a niche car - a courtesy wave that is to those in the same as you. Dad had a VW camper in the 80s and was always waving at fellow Vdubbers.
I guess it'a a community / common interest kinda thing.

rootes1 - Member

when you are in the supermarket, or walking down a busy highstreet...

do you say hello to all those fellow shoppers? no of course you don't