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just wondering as I have a massive pile I might repair.

glue and patches still the best method or are the stick-on patches just as good?


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:09 pm
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I do.
I try to use glue and patches as the stick on ones aren't supposed to last very long.
that said Park ones seem to last a good long while - I just had one fail the other day and it was probably a couple of years old I reckon.
do not ever use Evans own stick on patches, they just fall off and if you can get one to stick it'll either fall off overnight or definitely the next time it rains.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:13 pm
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Glue and patches are still best


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:13 pm
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Hell yeah I still repair them! Imo patches and glue still pips pre glued, just.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:13 pm
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I tend to accumulate about 5 or 6 tubes in need of repair then do them in a batch. I use glue and tubes from rema.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:15 pm
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I don't use tubes much but when I do, they have 50 patches on them


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:16 pm
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I used to. Then swapped to slime tubes on the commuter. When one of those died it was well and truly dead, more goop and holes than rubber.

Not had a p***** on the crosser hybrid and tubeless on the mtb.

I have now brought on the curse of the p****.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:17 pm
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I certainly do,I also collect and repair tubes from the terminally lazy/incapable,haven't had to pay for a tube for over 6yrs now, and the pack of 100 patches are still going strong.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:19 pm
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Tubes on the wife's biketamd my commuter - always glue and patches - got 2 free kits from Halfrauds recently 😀


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:20 pm
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I'm appalled at those that don't, which seems to include a lot of my customers.

I had to sacrifice one for a tubeless valve the other day, it had 12 patches.

Bin full of punctured ones at work.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:22 pm
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Save a big pile up then do them in a batch, traditional glue & patch, don't trust the stick on ones but from all reports might actually invest in some park ones for if I have a REALLY bad day on the trails.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:25 pm
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I save them up and do a batch - actually a few ready now after the winter.

Max of two patches to a tube though - three strikes and they are out. Tend to buy tubes in batches on offer so not that expensive, only get through 10 a year across three bikes, 4-5,0000 miles.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:29 pm
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I don't use tubes much but when I do, they have 50 patches on them

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Posted : 04/03/2014 8:34 pm
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I'm far too lazy to go on the generator :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:37 pm
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*their

Yes repair with glue & patch.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:38 pm
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Sometimes I do. Sometimes I can't be arsed and just buy some new ones. I'm slowly migrating the fleet to tubeless.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:39 pm
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I can't understand why you wouldn't. It's dead easy and takes next to no time.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:42 pm
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I own 4 tubes, 2 on the bike, 2 in my bag. Didn't get any punctures in my first 800 miles of biking, then got about 20 in the following 200 miles.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:42 pm
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I was about to do my first repair batch and then I found these.The cheapest I've ever found, so it'll be a while longer before I dive into the big bag of tubes in the shed
[url= http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/schwalbe-sv19a-xlight-presta-tube-28-tyres-57-584-40-622-to-62-622-and-40-635-prod26674/ ]Schwalbe 19A[/url]


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:44 pm
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Joy! What fun!

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I may have to work on my memes, this is my first.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:46 pm
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Genuine LOL at that non-meme ^


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:53 pm
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You seem to have the hang of it al! 😆

Maybe next time practice on someone else's stupid comments.....


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:56 pm
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Half an hour with some feathered edge patches and vulcanising solution is quite satisfying sometimes.

Oh, and a nerdy point here. It isn't glue. Glue sticks two surfaces together by bonding them to each side of a thin layer of itself. Vulcanising solution 'melts' the tube and the patch together (although 'melt' is not right either - perhaps someone with a chemistry background could put it better!)


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:56 pm
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I occasionally fix them. Probably 8 out of 10 fixes work well although the odd one that doesn't [i]stay[/i] fixed usually punctures half way home in the cold. So more often than not, I bin them and use a fresh one these days. It's a bit wasteful of course but it's only 1 or 2 tubes a year. For commuting peace of mind, I'm OK with that.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:58 pm
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is it 'meld'?


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 8:59 pm
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I do, on the bikes that aren't tubeless yet. Only throw them away when they've got 20+ patches on them. Use glue most of the time, although the Lezyne stick on patches are fantastic. You can buy a sheet of patch material for a couple of quid and cut it up into 30-odd patches.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:03 pm
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I was about to do my first repair batch and then I found these.The cheapest I've ever found, so it'll be a while longer before I dive into the big bag of tubes in the shed
Schwalbe 19A

what's so great about them?
I've used Schwalbe tubes before and the seams have always split twice.
are these better?


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:04 pm
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Best tubes I've used & light.
Not had any problems.
I recently got some cheap tubes from On One which came pre punctured.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:14 pm
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I got a puncture on the front wheel of my X just 700m into my first ever ride on it. Patched it, then had 11 months of puncture-free riding. Got one on the rear last month, but made it home and only noticed while washing the bike.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:16 pm
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I do but have run out of my batch of 100 patches. Anyone know of a source of the same?


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:23 pm
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Posted : 04/03/2014 9:25 pm
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I tend to do them in batches.

Did some on Sunday, actually. Annoyingly though, one of them was beyond repair (valve tearing out of tube) and two of them showed no visible leak at all.
Still repaired another two though.

I seem to go from having boxes of brand new tubes one day to having absolutely none. I think I must give them away and forget.


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:33 pm
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"who repairs and resuses there inner tubes?"

Is it northerners?


 
Posted : 04/03/2014 9:39 pm
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Box of 100 Rema patches can be ordered from Madison via just about any bike shop.


 
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You guys really need to know your memes a lot more.'First world problems' would be used a hell of a lot on this STW.


 
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Posted : 04/03/2014 10:03 pm
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Posted : 04/03/2014 10:12 pm
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Hell, yes - working thru a big pile of 'em is strangely relaxing.

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Posted : 04/03/2014 10:14 pm
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I hand them over to my trusty BF who returns them fixed... magic!


 
Posted : 24/03/2014 8:59 pm
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I do but for some reason pinch flat repairs never seem to hold, anyone else experienced this? I can repair "normal" punctures no problem but the patches always come off on the inside of the tube.


 
Posted : 24/03/2014 11:19 pm
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Posted : 25/03/2014 12:17 am
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I tend to repair them as they puncture at the side of the path / road. So long as the puncture is obvious, it only takes an extra two mins, compared with replacing the tube.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 12:39 am
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Replace on the spot and fix in batches.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 12:41 am
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Tubeless....

If I use an inner tube and it gets a puncture they mostly get used as tie downs for the bike rack or hanging straps, a bunch are tieing up out tomatoes too.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 12:41 am
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I find that the patches don't hold well here, presumably because of the heat. I was really surprised since I never had any problems repairing them in the UK, so I asked a few roadies on a group ride here and they confirmed the same thing. Only my road bike has tubes now anyway.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 1:19 am
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Posted : 25/03/2014 6:19 am
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Fixer here.

Rules are one repair on road tubes and two on MTB tubes. The repaired ones go straight back on the bike so I know the spares I carry are all fine and dandy.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 6:42 am
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I can't believe people don't patch tubes,

Being a child of the seventies, who always seemed to get in to scrapes it was not uncommon to come home having torn the elbow or knees out of my clothing and was always getting an ear bashing for coming home from school and going straight out to play without changing out of my school clothes and then ripping them.

So I could often be found walking the streets covered in patches, never mind my tubes.
Kids would probably be taken into care now if put through such indignity.

And don't get me started on hand me downs. Because I had an older brother I was still wearing flairs in the early eighties.

Don't patch tubes, don't know you're born. 😀


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:08 am
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Was going to say that I make a massive pile, but in reality I have a pile of 2 tubes (one for the HT, one for the CX bike), and haven't got round to actually patching them. 7000km, 2 repairable punctures, 1 other tube just split randomly (about 5cm long on the inside of the tube) wheeling the bike about 20 metres from the top of Super Morzine Gondola to the Zore chair.

Will patch them some time. Still have 2 spare tubes in every rucksack, so no rush.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:17 am
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I have a road tube here I am just about to patch. If I can find my pump that is.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:27 am
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Ah no I am not, my vulcanising solution has run out. Anyone want 8 patches for nowt? I have found some fresh inner tubes instead.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:38 am
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I used to just swap a punctured tube for new, and then repair later on, but recently have discovered the wonderful world of glueless patches, so not only is it quicker to apply one of those on a ride, they seem to hold as well as a regular repair as well.

Edit: Words.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:40 am
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At £5 a pop I'm surprised how many folk replace rather than spend 5 minutes to repair.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:46 am
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result of an evening of patching recently
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get [i]a lot[/i] of punctures on my cx commuter, trying tubeless again tomorrow, fingers crossed.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:47 am
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I have had great success in the past with glueless patches but found if you deflated them often to replace tyres they wrinkled and eventually came away and failed.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:49 am
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I had every intention of patching a massive pile (I'm not kidding)

But never got round to it so during my Garage clearout/demolition I binned the lot as I worked out some were probably 15 years old!

When my new workshop is built I will endevour to keep on top of it.

I threw out that much bike stuff that one of the workers at the tip asked if I was a cycle team mechanic 😳


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:53 am
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I have had great success in the past with glueless patches but found if you deflated them often to replace tyres they wrinkled and eventually came away and failed.

Just started using them, so not sure how long term they will last. Problem is, until they do drop off, they look a bloody nightmare to peel back off and apply a old school repair.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:53 am
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I CBA. Don't use them on the MTB, and on the road I don't have faith in a patch staying put at high pressure/speed. Sure it's totally unfounded, but life's too short. Costs me a couple of quid a year on average!


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 9:56 am
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I fastened two together the other day and used them to tow my lad on his Islabike for a mile or so after he'd expressed mild dissatisfaction half way around Derwent/Howden


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 10:03 am
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I have had great success in the past with glueless patches but found if you deflated them often to replace tyres they wrinkled and eventually came away and failed.
Just started using them, so not sure how long term they will last. Problem is, until they do drop off, they look a bloody nightmare to peel back off and apply a old school repair.

I was using slime scabs I think they called.
I never had one fail while out but had a flat in the morning after changing tyres the night before.
So would apply them when necessary (second puncture when out after fitting spare tube) and forget.
Then to replace them with proper patches when changing tyres.
Found they peeled off surprisingly easy.

Now tubeless on both mtbs and self healing tubes with puncture resistant tyres on commuter hack so punctures are a thing of the past (fingers crossed).


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 10:13 am
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the glueless patches are ok for about a year IME. trouble is ( as you've had the inkling Jamie ), when they go they are a pain to get a regular patch on in place because of the mess they leave behind. i patch tubes - cheap ones on the front get a couple of repairs then get binned, but i use those maxxis freeride tubes on the back and they're pricey ****ers, so the ones i have knocking around of those probably have upwards of 6 patches in some of 'em!


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 10:16 am
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Those who throw them away, can I have them /northerner

Keep repairing mtb and commuter tubes until I get a patch on a patch (nice bike is tubeless). Road tubes normally get a couple then relegated to commuter duties or chainstay protectors.

Leave them inflated overnight after repair to make sure I'm not carrying a prepunctured tube.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 10:17 am
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Del I used DH tubes in the rear tyre for a while but still got pinches, swapped to a dualply tyre run tubeless, bulletproof, not had a flat with them yet (unlike other tubeless setups). Weight of a chunky tyre plus DH tubes is similar to a dual ply tyre. Thoroughly recommended.


 
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Posted : 25/03/2014 11:05 am
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I do, but I have northern blood.

edit: noticed you don't get chalk in the kit anymore, whats that all about? had to tub flour in mine.


 
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I bought a kit the other day and noted that there was chalk not soapstone in there. Not that I needed it, but it was cheaper to buy the whole kit than the vulcanising solution and patches on their own.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 11:16 am
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Always repair tubes in a large batch, normally when I run out of air tight tubes.

A decent repair should be good for high pressure road tyres. Its not like its taking the pressure on its own, its sandwiched against the tyre and isn't going anywhere.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 2:14 pm
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Tube swap if p******* when out, then repair the tube when I get home. Only repair at the trail/roadside if I get a second on the same ride. I usually retire a tube once there's half a dozen or so patches on.

I've had bad experiences with self-adhesive patches in the past but, touch wood, the Park ones have't let me down yet. They're for the second-one-when-out scenarios, it's old school glue (alright, not glue, but you know what I mean) and patches the rest of the time.

The thought of binning a perfectly serviceable tube for one pin hole makes me sad.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 2:26 pm
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I'm currently using a tube I found hanging in a tree at the last Hit the North.

Thanks, lazy people!


 
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I ruined this thread and just made into a bad meme contest...


 
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I could do this all day....


 
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Patch 3 to 4 times, then use them for large plant ties and I have 4 holding next doors' fence up......


 
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