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whats your plan if so?
what frame?
what kit?
tyres?
Forks?
etc?


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:04 pm
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Nope but I've recently finished building up a winter roadbike. I already had a 'winter hardtail' so this completes the quiver.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:06 pm
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That would be my fatbike then?


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:08 pm
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I did this last year - went for a cheapie Vitus Sentier frame / 2nd hand 140mm Pike / some spare DT Swiss e1900 wheels I had / sram Gx 1x / magic Mary 2.3 / dhr2 2.3 / guide R brakes etc. Since upgraded the brakes to Codes but every thy img has been perfect.

The frame (being for plus tyres) has masses of mud room in it with 2.3 tyres in there - and because it’s reasonably low it corners like a demon. Can’t say I’ve had loads of pedal strikes either.

Tend to use it for short rides as my back doesn’t like hardtails much over a couple of hours due to a last injury. So playful though and makes easier flow trails more exciting than a big enduro style bike.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:12 pm
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Kinda.

Bought a Scandal from On-One, determined it's going to stay nice as long as possible so it's only getting used in the dry-ish.

Going to build up a new singlespeed fat bike for the slop. Which will be utterly pointless as 4.8" tyres and no gears do not make for a quick combination.

Built up a jumpy/4x/pumptrack bike last night from the spares bin (90% of it was on it previously so not quite the streak of good luck it sounds!). Decided that after losing some weight I'm now quicker than my mates uphill, but have lost a lot of my ability sprint, even just to jump back on a wheel if someone comes past when I'm on the front. So the plan is to ride down to the local BMX track in my lunchbreak. ~20 laps, 4 straights per lap should give my legs something to do a couple of days a week!


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:13 pm
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Kinda.

My Parkwood is in a state of "sort of"

One weekend it's got 130mm Revelations on and 2.35s, the next weekend it's a pseudo CX/roadie with rigid carbon forks and WTB Cross Boss tyres.

1x10 drivetrain with SRAM X7s and sometimes depends on the rides it will either have a 38T ring with a 11-36 or maybe even the 38T and an 11-42. It's not unknown for it to have a 32T from with the 11-36 either.

Wheels are either Mavic Crossmark (or is it Crossmax) or Giant PXC 29er.

It only takes 10 mins to swap mode between the 2 really, half of that is re-aligning the caliper after removing


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:13 pm
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I am but I’ve cheated by buying a complete Vitus Sentier VR SRAM SX.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:19 pm
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I built up a 'winter hard tail' 2 years ago.

Bird Zero Mk1 frame
Fox 34 Fit4 140mm forks
SLX M675 2x10 gears
XT M785 brakes
SRAM something or other hubs on WTB i25 rims
FSA 50mm stem
Brand-X bars
Brand-X 120mm dropper post
Charge Spoon saddle
Specialized tyres - 2.6" Eliminator and Butcher

Everything apart from the bars, dropper post and tyres was second hand - either forum/eBay buys or from my parts box.
It's now my favourite bike and gets ridden more than the others.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:21 pm
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Yep.just waiting on brakes (BB7) from eBay.

From spares bin:
Scandal frame, old school 26er.
Rocket Rons F&B. But 650b x 2.8 front.
425 a-c carbon fork, keeps front low.
X9 fr & XT rr shifters, XT mechs, 2x10

New:
Deore cranks, cassette and chain.

Should be low maintenance and also suitable for easier rides w/ Mrs PF.

APF


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:23 pm
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Bird Zero 29
Pike RC
1x10 XT with 11-34 cassette
Hope X2 brakes.
Ardents front and rear


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:37 pm
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Those bird Zero look lovely 🙂
some nice builds going on!


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:41 pm
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Pace RC129
RS Pikes at 140mm
GX 1x11
Rev Dropper
Guide Brakes
Smorgasboard Rear and DHF Front (both 2.3)

Bombproof....


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:46 pm
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Can't be arsed this year,just going to use my good bike then rebuild/upgrade it in the spring.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:48 pm
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Can’t be arsed this year,just going to use my good bike then rebuild/upgrade it in the spring.

Given (or inspite of) the rising cost of even mid range components, this makes more sense. Unless you go down the rigid singlespeed route* then even a mid range set of forks costs more than the service items you would get through over winter. That is unless you use SRAM cassettes, in which case getting high smoking plastic fivers all winter would be a cheaper hobby. Hopefully the now similar XT will give it some pricing competition.

*which is great, ive had one in one form or another for about 10 years.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 1:59 pm
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Cheap hardtails are not just for Christmas winter! 🙂

I recently picked up an olde Genesis High Latitude 29er to try & get back into off road stuff more - had converted to full on roadie as it's kinder to my knees but couldn't resist another cheap-ish hardtail for knocking about on in the cooler months - terribly unfashionable, steel frame, 2x10, 80mm travel forks - the original tyres were shafted so i popped some cheap Mavic Crossride(?) 2.35" flavour on there, loads of room - probably fit bigger depending on profile

Also - this thread needs more pictures

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Posted : 11/11/2019 2:00 pm
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more planning how to actually ride mine...

DMR trailstar
rockshox pike dual position 130/160
wtb i29 27.5 rims on hope 2 hubs
none model 4/2 pot shimano brakes on 180mm icetech rotors
deore xt 8000 derailleur, BB, 32 tooth snail oval, sunrace 11/50 cassette
funn 35mm stem, 800mm protaper carbon bars
maxxis tubeless tyres (depending on conditions)
random dropper


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:05 pm
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For local stuff it was tempting this year, did it a few years back, its fine on anything smooth, but offroad sat down, its quite literally a pain in the ass. FS for the win!

Its also cheaper to replace the bearings in the smuggler come march and throw a new cassette/chain/chainring/bb at is as well, rather than buy another bike.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:12 pm
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I'm in the process of doing so. It might be done sometime in the Spring at this rate 🙂

TBH it's not really a "winter hardtail", more a companion to complement the FS bike and replace the mk1 Soul which, while ace, is just a bit small for me.

NS Eccentric Evo Alu 29er frame
2nd-hand RS Yari @ 140mm
2nd-hand DT Swiss 27.5" wheels
2nd-hand SLX brakes, probably 203/180mm rotors
hand-me-down 9 speed drive train from the Soul (might look at an eBay Sunrace wide range cassette)
bars/stem/saddle from the Soul, at least until I have some more money 🙂
either 2.6 Butchers from the Specialized half-price sale, or some 2.4-ish something else from Black/Cyber sales, depending on whether it's going to be built while its still winter or not


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:31 pm
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My winter hardtail.

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My not-winter hardtail.

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Posted : 11/11/2019 2:31 pm
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Waiting for my planet-X Big Dog to turn up, so in answer to the OP, sort of...


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:34 pm
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Put some new SLX brakes on my 10 year old Cove Hummer as I could not sell it then got some cheap 26" tyres from CRC so have used it quite a bit put 1x11 on it couple of years back it is rigid got plastered in mud on Ridgeway Sunday happy days.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:51 pm
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Waiting for my Hello Dave frame to arrive then bits from parts bin, 1X11, Ohlins forks formula R1 brakes


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 2:53 pm
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I only have a HT! Might buy a rear mud hugger though....


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:04 pm
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Built mine up October last year! MK5 Soul in Mercury, been more than just a winter bike though in truth, ridden it far more than my T130 this year, just feels ace. Built up similarly to the T130, 120mm Revelation RC, GX Eagle with carbon Descendant cranks, Chromag bar/stem, Reverb and Hope E4's, the Pro 4/Arch MK3 wheels get swapped between the two. Running Maxxis Forekasters at the minute but want to swap the front out for the new Dissector when I can get my hands on one!


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:07 pm
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Bird Zero 29
140mm Revelations
SRAM GX 1x11 from old bike
XT brakes from old bike
2.5 Shorty up front
2.4 DHR on the back


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:32 pm
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I was going too as had all the parts sat spare. Was looking at a BFE or a Pace with 2.6 tyres to take the sting out a bit. Ended up doing the sensible thing and bought a DH bike instead!


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:35 pm
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PX Mutsu ti
12spd XT
SID 100mm
Hunt front wheel
Ebay built rear with the micro spline hub (waiting for hunt to release the hub)
Vitoria Barzo’s front and rear.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:53 pm
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Crossed my mind when I saw those Airdrop Bitmap frames £100 off. I keep telling myself I don’t need another bike but it would be nice.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 3:55 pm
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Old 26" Ragley Mmmbop running 1x9, a RS Sektor coil fork and Mudhugger guards front and rear. It's hideous, but allows you to ride through massive puddles without getting a wet backside, still works fine on technical stuff and is cheap enough that I don't worry about destroying the hell out of it. Or I just ride my Transmitter.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 4:00 pm
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Another Cove Hummer ressurection here. Marz forks died, kind of resigned to hanging frame on garage wall then got a chance of a pair of 2012 from an industry insider 😜 bit more than I wanted to pay but talk about rolling back the years 😎 Polar opposite of my Kona Raijin which is pure business whereas the Hummer brings the party! 😎 My mate is convinced I won't be entirely happy until I get a modern LLS Steel HT 650B Plus though 🙄
He could be right 🤔I'm interested in the new Sonder when it comes out in the New Year 🙄🙄🙄🙄


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 4:26 pm
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Seems there are a few different interpretations of "winter hardtail" here.
Some pretty posh bits for winter mud pluggers.

I love all the "26 lives again"TM bikes though.

APF


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 4:37 pm
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Seems there are a few different interpretations of “winter hardtail” here.

I think that depends on the reasons for a 'winter hardtail'.

I've always found the dogma of 'protecting my good bike', be it an FS or not, somewhat disingenuous. After all, unless it's a complete ratbike, the value of a hardtail that's actually worth riding off-road will far outstrip the maintenance and replacement costs of keeping the nice bike running.

On my trails, the advantages of an FS are much diminished in the soft schlop in the wet months, and I find riding a hardtail keeps me sharper for the FS too.

YMMV.


 
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Not sure what’s happened to imgur / posting links on here but it’s gone horribly wrong on this occasion.....

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/C2zNE3A


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 4:48 pm
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Crossed my mind when I saw those Airdrop Bitmap frames £100 off. I keep telling myself I don’t need another bike but it would be nice.

I saw the sale and they look great but I fear they're just too stiff and unforgiving for regular riding


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 4:49 pm
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That's certainly what Enduro mag had to say about them. Pretty light and will be very responsive though.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 5:09 pm
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good to see a few 26inchers used.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 5:12 pm
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What's the tyre clearance on the Pole? Is it me or does the Soul look too old-skool with high standover, despite its "longshot" geo?


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 6:10 pm
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Nope, did it years ago & even as a decent bike, it was considerably shitter than my FS.

So no, I’d rather not ride a rubbish bike. Just keep riding a proper one 🙂


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 6:44 pm
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@joebristol


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 6:47 pm
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Cotic BFe275
160mm Yari
Purple E4's
Pro2 on 35w, Slaughter rear, 2.6 Hillbilly front
XT 1x11
170mm Ascend XL
50mm Thomson stem

Suppose it's good for keeping the spares in one place. Never ride it as prefer the HB160 whatever the weather or ride.


 
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Im at the extreme. Freeride downduro

BINGO!


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 7:24 pm
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Yep, mine is now in a state of being “happy” with it.

Bought a 2018 Whyte 901- lightly used from Facebook, rode it a few times and absolutely loved it. However let down by the Fork, amongst other things.  Plus shifter shat itself first ride.

it now runs a set of boost pikes (albeit I need to drop travel down as it’s currently at 160) a Shimano XT shifter, SLX rear mech.  Fitted a set of XT brakes and ice tech rotors.  Hunt trail wide wheels with a Mary 2.6 upfront.  It is a tank of a bike and is turning into a triggers broom.  But great riding a bike in the sloppy mud and not having to worry about bearings etc.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 7:55 pm
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Yes but almost all from weightweenie bits lying around the shed. Going to be rigid xc 26 singlespeed and will probably get ridden once and never again...

Beone carbon frame with s/h Exotic carbon forks. Ancient Crossmax SLRs with 16t cog, spaced with two bits of plastic pipe. XX1 carbon cranks (I think the pedal insert is loose in one) with direct mount 36t oval ring (almost certainly too much for me). Old X9 mech as tensioner and 9sp chain. Old 965 XTR brakes. Vector carbon bars, carbon post and uncomfortable lightweight saddle. Just waiting for a new spoke, which only cost £6.40 posted 🤔


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 8:49 pm
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Built one up a couple of years back. Free Inbred frame, set of cheap deore (26) wheels, bargain nukeproof carbon fork, SS kit and other bits & bobs kicking around in the garage. Ran it for a bit as a rigid 69er (with the discarded front wheel that came stock on my gravel bike), and then 'upgraded' with a 130mm Epixon fork a few months ago. Sooo much fun, in a simplistic and cheap fashion!


 
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Inbred b6er, exotic rigid fork, Sram gx crankset, Formula Oro brakes, some other bits.

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Posted : 11/11/2019 9:24 pm
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Wow that rear Mudhugger really destroys the looks of that Pole. I'd do the same though. My winter hardtail is my rigid MTB daily commute bike.

I built last year. Brand X HT-01 frame for £100. Planet X el quappo i25 wheels. Maxxis semi-slick/race tyres f+r. 1x9. Exotic forks. The rest from previous 26" commuter.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 9:29 pm
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Yes, but it's my summer hardtail too (though I put a rear mudguard for winter).
Loads of clearance, and a hub gear 😉

DMR


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 10:15 pm
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Hardtails are not just for winter 🙂
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Yep! Love running a hardtail alongside the full susser. On One DeeDar frame, 1x10 SLX, X fusion sweep forks, Br[URL= https://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah182/Pete1982/69404999_10216839751640345_9155802722295873536_n_zpsoxr0hdvf.jp g" target="_blank">https://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah182/Pete1982/69404999_10216839751640345_9155802722295873536_n_zpsoxr0hdvf.jp g"/> [/IMG][/URL]


 
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I bought a Voodoo Hoodoo for winter use last year and to see if I wanted a decent hardtail in my life again. The answer was yes so it's getting a few choice upgrades to make it more winter-resistant. A posh hardtail for summer use may also be planned.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 10:25 pm
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Hardtails are not just for winter

Is what I was about to say. Just freshly greased bolts for winter.


 
Posted : 11/11/2019 10:29 pm
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Built this after I “accidentally” bought some boost 27.5” wheels from a PSA on here. Whole thing came in under a grand. Proper hooligan bike.
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Also building a Hello Dave. All components ready...


 
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Had a look in the garage - more or less got everything I need for a 27.5 hardtail. Just need a nice frame in medium.


 
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I've thought about a Winter Hard Tail loads of times. But in the end I can't possibly see how it's cost effective ?
I've got a 2017 Stumpjumper Carbon Comp.
To get a decent hard tail I'd have to spend well over £1000 and probably upgrade it.
This has got to be higher than paying for someone to service my rear shock and pivot bearings over many Winters!
All the other maintenance costs will be about the same.

This year the Summer and Autumn have been very Winter-like anyway. Nearly every ride I've been caked in mud since August. So if it is a very bad year like 2017 & 2019 have proven to be would I have to put my "best bike" away nearly all year round because there is mud ?
I must admit most of the time I feel like the Full Suspension is not providing much advantage over a hard tail in the Winter. I'm going much slower everywhere, as it's wet and slippy.
Even on hard packed surfaces (for example Cragg and Lee) I'm slowing down for puddles all the time!
Then there is the snow and ice, again not really beneficial for an FS.
There's the odd dry rocky section where it still comes in use.

It must be said the Hard Tail would also be useful as a secondary bike in case the FS is broke, so might be worth getting one.
But I'm thinking of getting an E Bike instead. And I really don't want more than two bikes.


 
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Not really built but bought a Marin Bobcat Trail 5 last November for winter duties. Most of my riding over winter is canals and country roads so it’s ideal. And it has suitable tyres on. Like to keep fast rolling tyres on my main bike and decent all rounders on my Hardtail.
Dug my full suss out early this year (End of February) as it was absolutely bone dry locally then never became more than slightly damp till end of July. Now it’s a complete slop fest, even the canal has gigantic puddles everywhere on the section from Blackburn to Church. From Church to Hampton it’s a slimy mess.

Roll on spring.


 
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I’ve thought about a Winter Hard Tail loads of times. But in the end I can’t possibly see how it’s cost effective ?
I’ve got a 2017 Stumpjumper Carbon Comp.
To get a decent hard tail I’d have to spend well over £1000 and probably upgrade it.

Youre doing it wrong.

My winter mountain bike for the past couple of years has been a rigid charge cooker singlespeed. Its cost me:
£120 for the bike
£0 new chainset from the spares box when i broke the megaexo one.
£20 chain and sprocket, chainring from the spares box.
£15 hub bearings. Got a new job and a new bike now so ive sold it and for 2 years riding its barely cost me anything.

Ignore the capitalist voice in your head saying that life isnt complete wirhout 110x15mm forks and an XD cassette. Winter bikes are about making do and mending, a place to use up all those 0.75% chains and that cassette you were convinced was too heavy or the wrong ratios and those unfashionable standards components like bars that are only 720mm wide, seatpost that doesnt drop, saddle thats not comfy over 3 hours but fine for being trashed onngritty night rides.

Even that dialled holeshot Ive built is entirely from spares that were too nice to give away but barely worth anything as bikes have moved on.

26" wheel with Hope bulb/xc hubs
Straightline chain device
Zee 11-36 10 speed
Straight steerer RS Sektors (spaced down to 100mm)
Pedals off my GFs old bike
Brakes came off a bike ive just sold with the oem brakes
Bar and stem unfashionable narrow/long

The only cost was £5.50 for 50 stainless M8 cap head screws, i needed one for the bottom of the fork! Even if i split all the bits on ebay i reckon it would struggle to make £200, but its worth way more than the sum of its parts (and if i fancied a trail bike could probably find a frame for peanuts).


 
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Aye, sounds right TINAS.

My Parkwood has brakes i'd never even consider on another bike, the Shimano 315s with rusty levers, but i just don't care... In the same way i don't care that the forks are a bit squelshy on compression that i'd never allow on the T-130. But the HT is a different beast, it's the drag it out, use it, clean it, put it back kind of bike.


 
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I think that depends on the reasons for a ‘winter hardtail’.

In my case it's simply a platform for the Mudhugger guards. They're pretty much a permanent fixture on the bike. I'm not remotely bothered about preserving some notional 'best bike', just keeping my butt as dry as possible 🙂


 
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mending, a place to use up all those 0.75% chains and that cassette you were convinced was too heavy or the wrong ratios and those unfashionable standards components like bars that are only 720mm wide, seatpost that doesnt drop, saddle thats not comfy over 3 hours but fine for being trashed onngritty night rides

Screw that. Life's to short to ride shit bikes!


 
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Carver 96er, Rohloff and some old fashioned skinny mud tyres. Same setup year after year.


 
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Who is building up a winter hardtail?

I did once, in the dim & distant past, but to be honest I just don't get it. I mean it's not like you're gonna destroy a bike and it's associated components in a few months of cold wet mud as opposed to the warm wet mud that hangs about in summer, bar of course those 2 weeks in April when everything is dry due to being frozen and the 3 weeks in "summer" when it doesn't rain every day.

Bottom brackets are dirt cheap, chains too, brake pads - even expensive ones from Uberbike are a whole £9 a pair, tyres, well you just have them to suit the conditions and frame bearings, unless you ride something with utter shite installed from the factory or you jet-wash the shit out of your bike after every ride will last a winter or two.

Winter bikes are about making do and mending

But why? why ride part worn out stuff, when new stuff isn't even expensive?


 
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Just dusted off the old Ti456 for this purpose to try and save the Yeti a little bit.
Last time I rode it was 2 years ago but enjoying it all over again. It's 1x10 with homebrew coil converted Fox forks. A lot of my winter biking is lower level woodland trails and this seems ideal. I will still wheel out the SB6 for shuttle days at Inners, etc during the winter months.


 
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A hardtail is for life, not just for winter 🤘


 
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Screw that. Life’s to short to ride shit bikes!

Depends if you think rigid singlespeeds are "shit", when the trails are deep in slop and they're they only thing still moving I think they're great!

But why? why ride part worn out stuff, when new stuff isn’t even expensive?

Again, depends on where you ride and your priorities. You can run a chain for a lot longer than 0.75%, it just wear away the teeth on the cassette so a new one won't run anymore. You can still run another 0.75 chain though. Shifting doesn't really suffer that much either as long as the cables are clean.

As for new stuff not being expensive. Again depends what you ride and consider expensive. SRAM 11s on my CX bike, happy to run that all winter, a cassette is £35 and a chain £15. It gets trashed but it's not expensive given the hours I put on it. The equivalent 12s GX on the MTB, there's no way I'd take that out in the typical 1 ride* and it's FUBAR conditions we sometimes get in the middle of winter. I mean even on a lunchtime ride to day it came this >-< close to ripping the mech off on a muddy bridleway. I like my lunchtime rides, but not at £80 a pop!

By all means, ride a nice bike all winter. I'd love to. But realistically my nice bike is a £1200 GX hardtail. Which is probably already 2nd winter bike by a lot of peoples standards. But I'd rather take something else out when it's properly filthy.

*THAT Gorrick 100, I still have nightmares, and still find lumps of clay stuck in the crevices under my car!


 
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Well - sort of
Just finished what was meant to be the winter hardtail build and despite it being 80% second hand and 10% bits I already had its still cost upwards of 2K!!! Try not to think about it too much.

she is nice though...

Kingdom Vendetta LS with carbon wheels/bars, Pike 160 forks, hope cranks and brakes, SRAM X01 drive and a 180 dropper.

So much for the winter hack - I surprised myself on Sunday. took her out in the filth and didn't get upset. Have to remind myself its still a hardtail though and requires a different technique to avoid getting killed.

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Depends if you think rigid singlespeeds are “shit”, when the trails are deep in slop and they’re they only thing still moving I think they’re great!

But this isn't really true.

I used to run a single speed (albeit with 120mm forks) and really enjoyed it. In reality on the trail, there's a tiny margin where an SS runs better than a geared bike in the clag before the restrictions of your one and only gear force you to either stall, or wheel spin. Then you're left without the flexibility of a geared bike and you're off and walking. This in turn curtails where you can actually ride. Contrary to popular opinion, I'd argue that the best time for a single speed is the summer.

If your winter bike is built up of a collection of worn out components and things that you've discarded but hoarded in lieu of other things you prefer, I get you'd definitely care about it less, which is brilliant from a cleaning and care POV (neglect IMO). I get how that can satisfy ones need for thrift and squeezing the last remnants of perceived value out of old tut, but that does little for your ride experience IMO.

Instead, I either sell stuff whilst it has some residual value, throw it out or stockpile it for kids bikes as they grow. I don't have a pile of 0.75% chains*. I mean, whats the point? The GX ones I run are 20 quid and last a year.

To me a winter hardtail is just an iteration of a 'winter bike'. Mud guards, appropriate chain lube, even more appropriate maintenance regime and kit chosen to be up to the additional wear. Its kinda the point I was making with my first post. My hard tail is my winter bike because it has mudguards, a steel chain ring and sintered pads and an up-rated maintenance regime. That's it.

*Actually this is only partly true. I keep two plus a newer chain on the bike. Experience has shown that my cassettes and chain rings are good for about three chains, so after they've all reached 0.75 I run the them in rotation until the shifting plays up or jumps, then change the transmission wholesale. In practice this is about every 4-5 years, since as you rightly say, after 0.75% there's still tons of life to be gained with decent performance.


 
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At some point before Christmas I'll be turning this lot into a 29er hardtail. It won't just be a winter hack though.

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Pike RTC3 29er 140mm
Magura MT5 and MT4 brakes
Rohloff Speedhub
Thomson elite dropper
Whatever other bits are in the sale


 
Posted : 12/11/2019 7:19 pm
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Yup. This is mine. Finally got a singlespeed mtb again after a year riding without one: I took a lot of parts from my old SS bike that broke in half and added more modern parts (like the bars as my old ones were the old standard diameter.
So :
On One Scandal
Niner Carbon fork
Enve carbon bars
RSReverb dropper
Old XT cranks
SLX brakes
Rolhoff rear chain tensioner
Very old Stans rims on Hope hubs wheelset.


 
Posted : 12/11/2019 8:06 pm
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That Brand X HT-01 frame (135 QR rear) is £75 on CRC right now. Absolute bargain!


 
Posted : 12/11/2019 10:42 pm
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Hey there,

I kept my 2002 853 chromoly rock lobster for winter. It's old school 3x9. I could replace it with a new 660b or 29 but hey it's good to remember the good old days 😉
The spec isn't entirely old school mind but a mix of new and old. I'm beginning to get worried mind that parts will get difficult soon but I guess with bike jumbles and such like I'll always find parts for an old 26 😉

BR
JeZ


 
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My Vitus Sentier arrived yesterday.

Swapped out the SRAM SX cranks for some Truvativ Descendant cranks from the spares box (my god those Powerspline BB’s are heavy). Also found a 40mm Chromag stem which went on.

Bars, and saddle were swapped for some Burgetc jobbies and I’ve bought some composite pedals for it. Set the tyres up as tubeless too.

Vitus

Had a quick raz around the village in it last night. It feels much bigger than my Scout despite being a similar size in paper. The Z2’s feel pretty good; glad I went for this over a bike with entry level RS forks. First ride out in it tomorrow.


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 9:06 am
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As if on cue, or it overheard me talking about it. The SRAM mech on my cross bike is ever so slightly bent so it wont shift through the top three gears cleanly. I thought I'd got away with it!

Glad its not the GX!


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 9:53 am
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I've a 45650b raw 18" going begging if anyone is looking for a steel 650b HT frame for this! Swapped it for a large on-one Deedar as it was a touch too short 🙂 Building tonight - pics later in the week!


 
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I'm building mine up next week hopefully. It'll be a

Sour Crumble with Fox, Hope wheels and GX groupset. Can't wait. In the meantime I have a new Brompton as my current hardtail, I'm quite enjoying it.


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 11:57 am
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2 hardtails, 2 rigid, 1 SS, 1 Fattie, 1 gravel (but there are fewer than 7 bikes). None have pimpy transmission or anything, so they all get used all year round. The fattie more in summer, unless it's frozen or snowy, it doesn't do brilliantly in slop and flings at least double the amount of filth at you.

The newer hardtail is slightly out of alignment and needs to go back, so I will be building a hardtail for the winter, but it won't be a winter hardtail.


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 1:30 pm
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Marin Nail Trail frame from the classifieds to keep me sane whilst I'm trying to work out what would be the best MTB frame for all my needs and greeds. The Nail will be build with the rigid carbon fork from the Genesis Tarn, occasionally with Manipoo Machette if I can be bothered to raid the shed, B+ wheels as I don't have a suitable 29er rubber, singlespeed fast.
First alloy HT since 11' - hopefully I'll be back on the Steel or Ti in a couple months time!


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 3:23 pm
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Stanton Switchback with a 140mm fork set up as a singlespeed. Not built for winter, just built for the craic. Probably not fast, heavily compromised but I really don't care.

I love it. Life's too short to be getting anal about mudguards and maintenance


 
Posted : 13/11/2019 3:53 pm
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Current incarnation of back to basics winter/dog run bike. As simple and maintenance free as possible (without going rigid).

My old BFe26 frame.
'zocchi 44s at 130mm.
Singlespeed
Cable brakes
No dropper
Tubeless (Butcher/Purgatory) on Flows

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