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had a great day on the cwmcarn uplift yesterday, especially when the weather cleared up
decided to get a curry from Brentford Tandoori (recommended) about 1/2 mile a way didnt put a lid on never do when im just going local, but always do when mtbing or commuting
anyway rushing back with the smell of saag paneer, korma (for the missus) and mixed tandoori spurring me on I nipped down a dark cobbled alleyway ive been down a hundred times but never really noticed the low concrete bollard at the entrance, until all of a sudden my face is smashing into the floor
lots of blood, got home, dropped off the mangled curry off to a&e cut down to the bone 6 stitches later back home but throbbing headache,microwaved the curry but skipped on the weissbiers id planned to complement it
lesson learned, ALWAYS WEAR YOUR HELMET!
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Or... NEVER RIDE INTO CONCRETE BOLLARDS! 😉
Still, in your case there's no excuse, it's not like it would have messed up your hair. 😀
Hope you heal up soon.
Lesson learned: look where you're going 😉
Ouch! Whenever I hop on the bike without a helmet I always get paranoid that I'll do something similarly inept and hit the floor...
So there was a bollard in your pathia and you bahji'd right into it!?
Certainly looks like you've had some argy bhaji. Perhaps you'll tikka bit more care next time.
Edit: Too slow!
[quote=breadcrumb ]So there was a bollard in your pathia and you bahji'd right into it!?
Don't korma round here with your puns. We'll have naan of that!
Just man up and admit it, the korma was yours.
Ouch! Heal soon.
Did similar myself a few years ago on the BMX, riding to the top of the road to meet my Mum off the bus. Slipped a pedal . . . cue black eye and ripped jeans. I can still remember the sick feeling when my head hit the tarmac.
Loving the puns . . . keep 'em coming 😆
G fkn wiz. OW!
Get well soon!
[and no, I don't wear one]
You pilau'd right in to that.
Ouch!!!! That looks nasty! I always wear a lid as I'm a clumsy oaf who can fall off pretty much anywhere.
It's the same principle as always wearing leathers when 'nipping out' on your motorbike. The stats are that a massive amount of accidents happen within a couple of miles of your house.
Hope you're feeling better soon fella. That beer's not going to drink itself! 😉
Did something similar to that walking home from the pub.
Ouch, looks sore, heal soon!!
Yeah but at least you didn't break your neck with the extra rotational force a helmet would have caused. 😉
Yeah but at least you didn't break your neck with the extra rotational force a helmet would have caused.
You got a sauce to back that statement up?
Honestly, how long will this helmet debate curry on for?
Ouch - heal quickly kimbers!
When you poppadom down to the local, always tikka care. Currying things in your hands might have affected the steering! You need to alloo for that.
Ouch !!!! Get well soon, but no I don't wear a helmet to go round the shops, it just isn't that dangerous. You where a bit careless an got unlucky 🙁
I reckon it'd have been pretty likely you'd have ended up with that head injury anyway. I'd suggest always wearing a full facer from now on.
No helmet unless I'm off road or it is icy/muddy/slippery out there. Or foggy.
Yeah but at least you didn't break your neck with the extra rotational force a helmet would have caused.
I smiled when I read this yesterday -
"Giro and Bell have both launched new helmet models featuring MIPS (Multidirectional Impact Protection System) technologies designed to reduce rotational impact energy"
http://road.cc/content/news/128899-2015-helmet-roundup-giro-bell-poc-kask-mavic
Don't envy you at all !
Hope it all heals ok and gets less sore.
Personally I wear one whatever, but only have following an inept wet boardwalk / head interface a few years back. When I was wearing a lid.
Ooo!, nasty looking cut…that's what you can expect when you [i]Phall[/i] off in such a way. At least you'll be left with a very useful [i]harry potter[/i] scar for future fancy dress parties so it's not all bad news is it?.
PS : I don't wear a helmet on my Tripster or if i'm pottering about on the mtb/dog walking etc, i would however wear it if i planned on honing around like a loon (which i don't do anymore).
I never wore a helmet as a kid either and i'm still here despite years of stupid bike stunts/jumps, i managed to clear the River Avich waterfall gorge after getting a tow in from fergus on his DT250 motorbike, i say i cleared it but i guess that's an understatement as i ended up bouncing off the conifer trees on the opposite bank and tumbling backwards and falling 20ft into the waterfall pool
Oooh nasty!
A friend of my Wife's was cycling back from the local shop, somehow fell off, hit her head and is now virtually blind in one eye!
No one really knows why, but they think it's some kind of nerve damage!
I don't feel safe riding without a helmet.
Had you adjusted your sag correctly?
Chicks dig scars. But that Barnet! 😯
Looks bad, hope it heals quick.
I only wear a helmet when I'm offroad, never wear one when I commute to work, this may have just changed my mind!
*puts down bacon and tom sauce bap.
You'll be raita as rain soon enough.
Looks painful, hope it heals soon!
Helmet all time for me, I could trip over my own shadow.
I always walk when I nip to the shops or curry house..so I might look a bit of a tit if I wore my helmet..
I always walk when I nip to the shops or curry house..so I might look a bit of a tit if I wore my helmet..
Yes but there's just as much chance of obtaining a head injury whilst walking as there is when blah, blah, blah...
The only time I've needed stitches for a head wound was when walking down what is now my street, when someone lobbed a stone at me. I always wear a helmet when walking down my street now.
Do you wear a full face helmet, just encase a rogue stone or Bollard hits you in the face?
I don't wear mine when I go to the curry place, because I want a big badass scar on my head
Currying things in your hands might have affected the steering!
This. Far better to have a [b]Pak or a[/b] messenger bag to carry your grub in.
And for those promoting helmet wearage at all times, do you want to live in a Naany state?
Currying things in your hands might have affected the steering!
OP stated he was using paneers 🙄This. Far better to have a Pak or a messenger bag to carry your grub in
I might start wearing my helmet in bed, (i've asked the Mrs to wear my "helmet" in bed, but it was a out right No)just encase I sleep walk and fall down the stairs..
You look like Ewan McGregor with dreads.
Or maybe, in a Lynx-running-into-each-other type advert, Obi Wan and Qui-Gon blended into one, weird Jedi...
I think my male escort/ modelling career is safe
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still hurts like a mofo though
Glad you got down the hospital raita way, looks nasty.
See, that's the problem with the "helmets don't save lives / no proof" argument. A fair enough argument but it's used as a reason not to wear a helmet. To me wearing a helmet is more about not ending up with a bloody great gash pouring blood out.
Awesome picture by the way though (the original gory one, though the stitches look suitably grim and threatening too) 
I think my [s]male escort/modelling[/s] human biltong display stand career is safe
The stats are that a massive amount of accidents happen within a couple of miles of your house.
Yes.
Anyone care to guess why that might be? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
I reckon it'd have been pretty likely you'd have ended up with that head injury anyway. I'd suggest always wearing a full facer from now on.
I used to work in a town where an American guy used to wear a full face motorbike helmet everywhere when outside, walking.
He was a lecturer at the local uni.
Ouch, healing vibes.
On the helmet question would a normal MTB helmet have changed much ? Would seem you would have still smashed your nose / cheek bone although less of a forehead gash ?
Well, everyone knows a nasty bit of road near where they live. I imagine it's that.Anyone care to guess why that might be? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
What I want to know is: will kimbers wear a lid when he goes to the shops next time?
Why would I wear a helmet to drive my car?
I do think wearing a helmet would've helped even if my nose(which is very sore) and possibly my eyebrow would be hurt but it would've helped prevent the gash which i think burst open with the force of impact, kind of like a tomato does
Nasty gash. What caused the accident OP?
kind of like a tomato does
A Tomato abuser! Stone him!!
With an injury to that pathia head I'm suprised you didn't need a samabalence.
Anyone care to guess why that might be?
The serious answer - it's because all journeys, if they start or finish at your house, cover the roads near your house.
It just goes to show that you're no LESS likely to have an accident, on a per mile basis, just because you're just popping to the shop.
If you ride to the shops 2 miles away three times a week without a helmet that's 26 miles a month, the equivalent of one MTB ride. So it's a bit pointless to not wear one for the shops whilst wearing one for longer rides. Bad drivers and bollards don't care how far you are from your house.
I hope everyone is also [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11318824/My-35-little-red-dress-saved-my-life-says-crash-victim.html ]wearing their little red dresses[/url] while in cars. It could save your life.
I wear a full face motorbike helmet and leathers all the time, just in case.
If you ride to the shops 2 miles away three times a week without a helmet that's 26 miles a month, the equivalent of one MTB ride
Equivalent distance, not equivalent risk. I've now idea which is of the lower risk, but you can't draw risk conclusions based on differing journeys (well you can, but they'll be wrong esp with low risk activities such as cycling)
If you ride to the shops 2 miles away three times a week without a helmet that's 26 miles a month, the equivalent of one MTB rideEquivalent distance, not equivalent risk. I've now idea which is of the lower risk, but you can't draw risk conclusions based on differing journeys (well you can, but they'll be wrong esp with low risk activities such as cycling)
That's probably three hours a month of riding. Statistically, you have to ride for something like 90 years to be guaranteed a serious crash, which is a lot of trips to the shop.
The serious answer - it's because all journeys, if they start or finish at your house, cover the roads near your house.
Indeed. Five points to Hufflepuff. 😀
Having said that, I went to a lecture recently where a Professor of Analytics was talking about catching bats.
Turns out that if you just string up a net in the forest the bats will fly round it because they easily detect it, but if you string up the same net across the entrance to their cave then you catch them easily.
It's only natural to let your guard down when you are on familiar territory.
Statistically, you have to ride for something like 90 years to be guaranteed a serious crash
Statistically, you're never guaranteed one. But in any case a chance of less than 100% is still a chance. Let's assume the probability approaches 1 in 90 years, then even in 30 years of riding to the shops you've got a 1:3 chance of a serious crash on the way to the shops. I'd wear a helmet for that!
Equivalent distance, not equivalent risk
Quite so, I was assuming constant risk for all cycling which isn't true. In fact, I'd say urban cycling is more risky due to lots of cars containing drivers who are having to look out for lots of things; and the prevalance of such things as bollards and dozy pedestrians.
Conversely, if you are on an MTB ride there might only be a couple of difficult or fast downhills and the rest could be climbing at 4mph or cruising traffic-free. I don't think helmet off-road and no helmet on-road is a sensible criterium because road is probably more dangerous than all but the fastest or most careless off-road. And "just going to the shops" is no better.
a chance of less than 100% is still a chance
Do you wear a car helmet?
i hit a bollard in a dark alley
ive been down the alley loads and loads of times, never really noticed the bollard just subconsciously avoided it
if it was an unfamiliar place id probably have looked better and proceeded with more caution
definitely a case of familiarity making me careless
Do you wear a car helmet?
No I have airbags and a rollcage.
A chance of less than 100% can still be a SIGNIFICANT chance. I can't see the relevance of your argument here.
Have we started arguing yet?
I can't see the relevance of your argument here.
There's a tiny chance of a head injury when walking to the shops.
There's a tiny chance of a head injury when running to the shops.
There's a tiny chance of a head injury when cycling to the shops.
There's a tiny chance of a head injury when driving to the shops.
I was just checking that you were only advocating helmet wearing for one of these activities.
Not quite yet Hora, but the protagonists are flexing their intellectual muscles....
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😀
Friend of mine badly broke his ankle stepping down the stairs. He almost had to have it fused. 😯
Awwww - could have been worse, it could've been your nan!
binners I don't like the punctuation that you've used. It looks threatening, lets argue.
Lets all just stay away from shops, people.
(am including fast ffod establishments/restaurants, for clarity)
[quote=molgrips ]It just goes to show that you're no LESS likely to have an accident, on a per mile basis, just because you're just popping to the shop.
It doesn't show that at all. If 80% of accidents are within a couple of miles of your house, yet 90% of mileage is on roads within a couple of miles of your house, what is the risk of riding within a couple of miles of your house compared to the risk elsewhere?
What I do wonder is if the OP had been wearing a helmet, and had therefore destroyed it in the crash, whether that would then have been trotted out as a "helmet saved my life" anecdote.
Lets wrestle instead.....
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Glad your ok OP [i]OOOF binners stop lifting me by my gstring strap [/i] 😯
This guy doesn't need a poxy helmet to pick up his shopping:
😯
was just checking that you were only advocating helmet wearing for one of these activities
Is 'tiny' a mathematical term? Cos you seem to be saying that the risk is the same for each activity. Or maybe you are saying the risk is insignificant? Perhaps you should tell the OP that 🙂
I reckon the risk is greatest when cycling, out of that list you posted. But anyway this thread is not about overall risk, it's to point out that the risk is not diminished simply because you are only going to the shops.
The difference in risk between the activities is relatively small, but doing one without a helmet leads to hysteria.
My average speed on a 'proper' ride is higher than if I'm popping to the shop, so the risk is higher. Had the OP been running to the shops, he'd possibly not have seen the bollard and sustained the same injuries...
without a helmet leads to hysteria.
ha ha... only on here. 😆
I pretty much never wear one and ride pretty much every day (about 6000miles a year split 2:1 between road and mtb with a bit of BMX)... only time I even get comments it's from relative noobs with all the gear.
get well soon funky dred bloke.
The difference in risk between the activities is relatively small, but doing one without a helmet leads to hysteria.
I challenge both of those 🙂 No-one's being hysterical. I'm more annoyed with the shit logic than people's heads tbh. If you don't want to wear one say so; don't try and wheel the maths out.
[quote=mtbel ]without a helmet leads to hysteria.
ha ha... only on here.
You reckon? http://www.bhsi.org/index.htm
[quote=molgrips ]The difference in risk between the activities is relatively small, but doing one without a helmet leads to hysteria.
I challenge both of those No-one's being hysterical. I'm more annoyed with the shit logic than people's heads tbh. If you don't want to wear one say so; don't try and wheel the maths out.
No, you're right. All the evidence I've seen suggests far more lives would be saved by compulsory bike helmets in cars than compulsory helmets for cyclists. Not to mention walking down stairs, showers etc.
Assume you were going full chat? Lucky boy, could easily have given yourself a head injury and endedup in a deep keema.
Yes I reckon.
Surely only a STW regular would have even found such a website 🙄