[Closed] While we wait for the Cotic Rocket...

Is the new one going to be 650B?

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got one already 😉

Black is of course the best colour.

fox 36 160s
Slx and zee drive
formula RX brakes
Renthal stem
sunline bars
flow ex Hoops

Clobber - Member
Is the new one going to be 650B?

Nice. What size tyres are those? I'm thinking of 2.35 Maxxis Minions, no wider.

stickerz iz cool, yo.

2.35 wtb weirwolf on the back and a 2.4 big betty upfront. the betty is huge but the fox could take a 2.5 easy as could the frame.

bigrich - Member
stickerz iz cool, yo.

better and cheaper than helitape if you happen to have 20+ years of stickers lying around.

Ordered an Orange frame with the Fox shock.... Thinking 1x10 inc a 42/40t on the back for my pussy legs.

XT drivetrain with a 32t N/W ring.
Slant Forks @ 150mm
My old but trusty Formula Rx brakes
SS switch evos/Stans Flow
Easton Havoc 35 Bars & Stem
Reverb

Cannot wait.

Black is of course the best colour.

Spec would be full XT 2x10 (black), brakes tbd, 150 Revs or Fox up front (must be black, cos white forks on black bikes looks silly), Flows w/ Stans or Hope hubs (all black), and mostly Hope (black) bits.
edit: and I might have to personalise the logos/badges a bit 😉

sounds like a good build.

2x10 for me too. Slants to be at 150.

Pre-ordered a large orange with hope headset and fox shock but considering changing to the CCDBAir.
Rest of build with be 150mm rev rlt ti fork, pro 2 / flow ex wheels with 2.3 butcher front and 2.35 minion dhf rear. Old school 3x9 xt drivetrain, formula oro k24 brakes, reverb, havoc carbon bar and Thomson stem.
Can't wait to get it built 🙂

Is the new one going to be 650B?

I think youll find the 26 aint dead thing was a bit of a fib there's pictures on the web and theirs a website link somewhere showing it

Frames now delayed until end of April... Bit of a kick in the b*llocks...

They seem to have been rather unlucky. I'm going to convince myself that it will be good for me to wait, and in the meantime make the most of the bike I've got.

misinformer - Member
Is the new one going to be 650B?
I think youll find the 26 aint dead thing was a bit of a fib there's pictures on the web and theirs a website link somewhere showing it

Let's see this link then...

Let's see this link then...

+1

Only link I can find is [url= http://www.justridingalong.com/news/2012/05/650b-wheels-on-cotic-rocket/ ]this one[/url]:

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They seem to have been rather unlucky. I'm going to convince myself that it will be good for me to wait, and in the meantime make the most of the bike I've got

Whadya mean unlucky?

The firm lined up to bend the seat stays not able to deliver due to terminal illness.

misinformer living up to his name i reckon....

misinformer living up to his name i reckon....

Wtf are you on about

That link is for a 26" rocket with 650B wheels stuck in it and not quite working. Not at all like Cotic doing a 650B Rocket.

That link is for a 26" rocket with 650B wheels stuck in it and not quite working. Not at all like Cotic doing a 650B Rocket.

That was kind of my point.

@Misinformer - where's this link of yours, then?

That was kind of my point.

@Misinformer - where's this link of yours, then?

How would I know it was on one of those photo sites of bits being made.

Iv'e lost interest now ,not waiting any longer

I'm with Mackem and Tobago on this one...

I'm with Mackem and Tobago on this one...

Which is what?

Which is what?

That you have provided (imo) misinformation... Happy to be proved otherwise.

But as you have stated we'll have to find it for ourselves.

Surprised this thread doesn't mention the Cotic Rocket 29er that I saw out in the Peak the other week.

Looked like a finished frame rather a prototype mule. So once Cy can [b]eventually[/b] get the 26 inch model out I'm sure there will be an announcement for the 29er soon after.

Wanted one for a while and the uk build makes it more tempting, however the transition covert is slowly winning me over, 300 quid cheaper to...
Anyone ridden both?

I thought Cotic might be offering a longer travel 29er. Solely based on them having Pike RCT3 140 forks for sale in 29 guise.

Had all the build kit sitting around since last August. So my 'new' Rocket will actually be a '2013' model.

Would have liked a black one, but have gone for a small orange.

X-Fusion Slants
Flow EX on Superstar Tesla (with Purgatory f, The Captain r)
Reverb
X9/X0 drivetrain (1x10, 32T, 11-36 cassette. Might go for a 40T bailout cog though)
Spattering of Superstar, Funn, Raceface, Charge finishing kit.

Should hopefully come in somewhere around 29lb.

I haven't ridden a Covert but I did test a Bandit. I felt they were quite similar to each other but found the Cotic a bit more easy to throw around and liked the extra 20mm on the rear. Not sure that really helps draw any conclusions re the Covert, though.

What sort of travel was that 29er Rik?

I've been waiting for Orange to update their Gyro for a while now (shorter chain stays etc) so it will be "interesting" if there is going to be another UK built frame option to consider. I'm more interested in a fun XC/Trail 29er than a long travel bruiser though.

I'll be delighted if my Rocket comes in as light as 29lb, but with both the Reverb and CCDBA I'll be happy with 32. That would still be lighter than my Gary Fisher 29er hard tail, though.

If they do arrive by the end of April, that'll be 14 months since I originally ordered. Incredible wait.

Veteran. It'll be just 10 months for me. I console myself with the knowledge that I should be getting a better bike than if I'd got one last June. It's also been spared a shit winter.

Impressed. It's been a year since I demoed one but couldn't actually put the order in until the new batch opened up in Jan. Order went in within an hour then!

No need to be impressed, I gave up waiting after 10 months, and bought a SB66. I hope the excitement and expectation surrounding the rocket hasn't fizzled out by the time they're finally available, as Cy deserves a break.

Demoed at the start of June and went straight on the waiting list, so will end up being 10 months for me too.

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"Size specific" - Are these the photos that misinformer was talking about? I assume they were reading from that it means wheel size rather than frame size or shock eye-to-eye size?

Good to see stuff being built anyhoo.

Surprised this thread doesn't mention the Cotic Rocket 29er that I saw out in the Peak the other week.

"Size specific" - Are these the photos that misinformer was talking about? I assume they were reading from that it means wheel size rather than frame size or shock eye-to-eye size?

And BOOM all ye doubters taking my screenname in vain,though the photo I'm sure had the frame written on,cant remember where the blog is of them being built up, but lost interest anyhow

I can't see the "Size specific" photo above, but presume from the title that it was one of mine, of the machined shock mounts.

The shock mounts are specific to the frame size, as the angle the shock mount meets the down tube changes between different sized front triangles.

I can't see the "Size specific" photo above, but presume from the title that it was one of mine, of the machined shock mounts.

Yup, that was the one. All shiny and beautiful looking. The original poster seems to have deleted the link though, it was to a flickr album.

Nobeerinthefridge - Member
If they do arrive by the end of April, that'll be 14 months since I originally ordered. Incredible wait.

Impressed by your patience/loyalty - the entire industry upped and moved to 650b in the meantime, and you're still waiting.

Can someone post the link so that mortals can see it?

[b]"industry"[/b] does not equal [b]"riders"[/b]

kelvin - Member

"industry" does not equal "riders"

No, it means "industry". That's why I used the word "industry".

passtherizla - Member

Can someone post the link so that mortals can see it?

Thanks Alex... Must be totally missing the link between these photos and a 650b option?

[b]There is no link.[/b]

There's a new rule... every forum thread must revert to a wheelsize discussion by page 2...

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Yes, exactly - somebody interpreted 'size-specific' as meaning wheelsize.
I guess that's why the original link was removed - because they realised it showed nothing (except some images from the new facilities which is nice to see).

Despite misinformer insisting that there is, there may be no photo evidence of anything to do with 650b.

AlexSimon - Member
passtherizla - Member
Can someone post the link so that mortals can see it?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spittingcat/

I'd change the privacy settings on that flickr link unless you want all and sundry viewing your family photos.

Probably worth pointing out that "26 ain't dead" doesn't automatically mean "650 isn't alive". Be surprised if Cotic weren't producing all three wheel sizes pretty soon.

honourablegeorge - Member

Nobeerinthefridge - Member
If they do arrive by the end of April, that'll be 14 months since I originally ordered. Incredible wait.

Impressed by your patience/loyalty - the entire industry upped and moved to 650b in the meantime, and you're still waiting.
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Er, No I'm not. Best you actually read posts before posting drivel.

I'm with honourablegeorge. Cotic is a business... they will surely want to make a product that sells, and what seems to be selling at the moment are larger wheeled bikes.

Cotic is a business... they will surely want to make a product that sells, and what seems to be selling at the moment are larger wheeled bikes.

They already make a 29er, so it wouldn't be a huge jump to make a 650b bike, but as has been mentioned, they can't keep up with demand on the 26er rockets. No point in spending cash making new stuff now when your current designs are flying off the shelf.

Aaaanyway, anyone else got a prospective build to share, or a current build? The extra wait gives me a bit more time to change my mind over details.

misinformer - Member
And BOOM all ye doubters taking my screenname in vain,though the photo I'm sure had the frame written on,cant remember where the blog is of them being built up, but lost interest anyhow

HA HA HA AND BOOM You're still wrong...

I've had my Rocket since December 2012 now so I guess mine must have been one of the last of the initial run of them. Anyway, great bike. It's so much fun to ride. Fun and agile is definitely the best way to describe the bike. It climbs pretty well for a 150mm travel bike, eats the singletrack and is a real hooligan on the descents. I work in a bike shop so I get to ride plenty of 650b and 29ers and while there are many great bikes out there none of them so far have tempted me to part with the Rocket. Like I say it's just so much fun to ride. Here are a couple of pics.

The bike no longer has the RS Lyiks, it's now sporting X-Fusion Slants
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Current build is X-Fusion Slants and Fox Kashima CDT shock, Hope tech 4 brakes, Hope Hoops (Flows), Reverb, Thomson stem, XT (1x10) drivetrain, XO chain device, Vaults, Deity bars, Hillbilly front tyre, Purgatory rear tyre. Here's another pic of current set up.

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The pic is our little take on #26aintdead

HA HA HA AND BOOM You're still wrong...

How am I ,anyway Banshee Spitfire anyone??

whatnobeer - Member

They already make a 29er, so it wouldn't be a huge jump to make a 650b bike, but as has been mentioned, they can't keep up with demand on the 26er rockets. No point in spending cash making new stuff now when your current designs are flying off the shelf.

Moving production to the Uk will make it flexible for them. Imagine it will be a pain for smaller manufacturers with three wheel sizes knocking about - three different inventories of rims, forks, etc. - until it all settles down.

Thanks nod. What do you make of the Slants after the Lyrics?

Size specific shock mount means exactly that, a slightly different size of shock to frame mount for each different size of frame. As for wheel size, its anyones guess.

merynella, so far impressed with the Slants. They're 1.5 lb lighter than the Lyriks so the front end is much easier to lift over obstacles. The progressive nature of them is also a bonus as they resist diving. Good range of rebound adjustment and very easy to set up. Compared to the Lyriks they are definitely not as stiff but they are still stiff enough. The Slants have made the bike less of a battering ram than it was with Lyriks fitted. I'm yet to fully test them. I've done my local trails (mainly steep, rooty, techy stuff) and they've remained unfazed. I'm riding the golf course trails at Inners this weekend. If they survive without getting fazed then I'll be impressed. Great forks for the money. Pikes are maybe a shade better but they're also almost twice the price. Currently set at 160mm which is great on the steep stuff but I think I may drop them to 150mm. No regrets so far.

Thanks. Will be interested in how you get on this weekend.

misinformer - Member
HA HA HA AND BOOM You're still wrong...
How am I ,anyway Banshee Spitfire anyone??

right then... you pipe up saying 26 aint dead is a bit of a fib cos they're making a 650b rocket. The photos you then refer to are not of 650b rockets parts. Its not 'Rocket' science kiddo figure it out every single other person in this thread has.

right then... you pipe up saying 26 aint dead is a bit of a fib cos they're making a 650b rocket. The photos you then refer to are not of 650b rockets parts. Its not 'Rocket' science kiddo figure it out every single other person in this thread has.

One day I will drop on wherever it was and it will be a humbling experience for you ,since I have moved on to looking at something which is available to buy, more because I would like to upgrade my bike for the summer and ride it than talking crap on the internet, by the time you get a bike maybe the 650 thing will have passed you by anyway.

Already have a bike , more proof that you haven't actually read this thread.

merynella - big thumbs up for the slants after 17.5 miles and 4000ft of descending at the golf course trails this weekend. Stiff, controlled, sit nicely in their travel (no diving), consistent rebound. Nothing fazed them really. A bargain fork. Only time will tell on reliability. Ok, there is no opportunity to tune compression of the fork but I didn't feel the need. I like simple forks that just do the job in hand.

Misinformer probably meant [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/compositepro/12954007214/in/photostream/ ]this[/url]

Everyone can now carry on speculating themselves into a right tizzy. I'm looking forward to my UK 26 Rocket, for the record.

Still loving mine well into it's second year, brilliant ride 😆

Sorry you lot have had to wait though

I'll be better for it. Good people are working hard to do things in the best way, and that's bloody ace. I guess I'm fortunate to still have a bike to ride in the meantime.

So my prospective build,
Large green frame, white Slants and the CCDB shock. I've a 1x9 SLX set up, Hope M4s, gravity dropper, Renthal bars all coming of my beloved Dialled Alpine. (it will rise again) I've also brought a pair of Havens to be shod tubeless with HR II/Ardent combo.

I'm checking for news roughly every 15-20 mins through the day. Expectation is reaching fever pitch. I might pop

And yes brunse11, I agree

In my pile of unused bits are some (26") Flow rimmed wheels, Pike, Reverb, 1x10 SLX (on LX cranks because they were dirt cheap) and some SLX brakes (because I've only a ever used Hopes up to now, and have to give Shimano a try now that everyone rates them). Hoping to get my old Fox DHX coil shock serviced and fitted to save money.

I feel the pain of others waiting… they're going to be great though. But I'm at the back of the queue. If not behind the queue.

I waited about a year for more rockets to become available, and in the end ordered a YT Capra... Which I still have to wait for... Lol

Wonder will cotic be tempted to make a crazy 650b rocket with 160-170mm travel at some point.

Brunse, linky no worky?
What am I missing!!!!???!!