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I'm still surprised to see that many very high-end mountain bike manufacturers, like Yeti or Pivot, use press-fit bottom brackets. Having endured the pain of a PF BB on my current bike, I'm trying to compile a list of mountain bike manufacturers that use the threaded system. The ones that spring to mind are:

- Santa Cruz
- Ibis
- Specialized
- Evil
- Transition
- Orbea
- Pole
- Orange
- Niner
- Hope

...who else?

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 11:01 am
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Someone is racing towards this thread to tell you that they've done 10,000 miles on their PF BB and that it works perfectly and you must be doing it wrong.

Happens every time.

You can add my bike to the list. Nicolai/Geometron

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 11:04 am
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Cotic

 
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Bird, Whyte.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 11:15 am
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Kingdom

 
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Banshee.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 11:24 am
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Just buy a Wheels Mfg PF-threaded BB. Cheap, work well.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 12:41 pm
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Vitus

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 1:16 pm
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Definitely feels like the big brands are finally moving back to threaded after years of marketing bull about how much better press-fit is, Specialized recently and Trek heading that way... but I can't forgive the latter for hoisting BB95 on the world

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 1:45 pm
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Hambini will tell you even a threaded bb is still a push fit bb.

I've got both. My specialized stumpy has a hope pf bb and its been spot on.

However, I like to remove my bb a couple of times a year to clean it and its a lot easier with a threaded bb.

When I had to run the dropper cable past the pf bb it was a nightmare and I had to remove it and re install. Took me 5 times as long and I had to borrow the tools

So, although I don't think there's much in it, as a home mechanic I'll take a threaded bb every time.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 3:17 pm
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Hambini will also tell you that the root cause of the problem is not threaded vs. PF but poor manufacturing and misalignment of the seating and threaded BB's can be prone to this if the BB shell is poorly manufactured. I know of plenty of people who have had issues with threaded BB's regarding creaking and short lives, so you're not completely de-risking yourself from the problem. Hambini recently had a Boardman bike on with a threaded BB shell and it was shocking. It's a quality control issue and not a design issue and the problem is all the main manufacturers have their frames made by the same small handful of factories out in China so all are exposed to the same problem.

You have to assume that the BB shell has not been manufactured well and there is some misalignment so going for one of the single piece shell solutions like Wheels Manufacturing or one of Hambini's own.

I'm one of those fortunate people that have done thousands of trouble and creak free miles on a PF BB. I even get trouble free duty from my MTB with SRAM GXP threaded BB which has just about the worse reputation out there. So if you're lucky and don't get one of the Friday afternoon or Monday Morning frames and happened to get a frame with decent alignment within the BB shell there there is nowt wrong with PF BB's. My brother has even had 5 years of perfect service from his Cannondale PF BB30 BB, and you don't hear that very often.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 3:34 pm
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Never had a problem with a threaded BB, won't consider a bike without one from now on, maybe T47 at a push. 100% of the bikes I've had with BB30 have been crap, Cannondale that has had every trick in the book thrown at it but has had to be left just accepting it creaks. OSBB on a Tarmac which needs a converter to be silent...but this is a stupid solution as it still starts to creak after 6 months or so and then needs clobbering with a hammer to remove it - just ruins what would otherwise be perfectly good bikes.

What grates is that this slack manufacturing is present on frames that the biggest bike manufacturers in the world sell for around £3k a piece for frame only- how much do you need to pay to have it made acceptably £5K?

Thankfully the industry has woken up and is slowly moving back to threaded...

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 3:50 pm
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Stanton are all threaded I think

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 4:23 pm
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Starling... Or nearly any steel frame.
Saying that I own or have owned Specialized, Rocky Mountain, Genesis, Cannondale, Canyon press fits and never had a creaky one, so would never rule out a frame that's not threaded.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 4:44 pm
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Bought one of these a while ago to replace my shimano PF92 BB, which to be fair had lasted pretty well.

Driveline Threaded-Press Fit Bottom Bracket for BB86/BB92 Frame to Shimano 24mm Crank for MTB/Road Bike https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0831N1TST/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zoAhFbM7Y4C13

I paid £25 which was the same as the cheapest shimano I could find so it’s gone up a bit, but still good value. I think it’s a re-badged token ninja.

Really impressed. Just needs two normal threaded BB tools to fit (I had one and borrowed one from a mate). Offer each side up and then start to thread the two halves by hand until starts to get tight then hold one end still with one BB tool, and tighten with the other which pulls the BB home nice and evenly. Rock solid and creak free since.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 4:46 pm
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Airdrop also have threaded bottom brackets in all their bikes.

 
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Threaded bb is a key factor for me when buying a frame, I avoided a Rockymountain because of press fit, love Nukeproof and Transition for staying with threaded, misalignment is the killer of BB's though, I've kept an old ISIS bb to check ever frame I buy.

 
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My brother has even had 5 years of perfect service from his Cannondale PF BB30 BB

You had me till then! Though I should have known it was coming with the hint about trouble-free GXP 😏

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 5:25 pm
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Well I'll be the annoying person who's had at last count at least 12 press-fit bikes over the years, some cheap, some expensive, alu or carbon frames, probably done 25,000 miles with no BB creaks (touch wood). And I hate creaking. All were Shimano or Race Face cranks and bottom brackets. What I'm not a fan of is belting the crap out of high end frames to get the cups out. As such it's not something I'd consider when buying but would prefer threaded.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 5:49 pm
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A threaded BB was always a must for me when buying a frame. Airdrop, Canfield, Santa Cruz. However ebikes now open up other manufacturers so I may even have an a commencal one day.

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 7:13 pm
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I bought a Chinese BB press for installing and removing BB shells or bearings. Very nice bit of kit - £36ish on eBay.

Worked a treat doing my BB86 and the bearings on my son’s BBright.

Still much prefer a BSA hollowtech style BB. Not so much square taper.

 
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Liteville

 
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Sonder

 
Posted : 26/07/2020 8:22 pm
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Thanks for all the responses... and for getting me hooked on Hambini videos for the last four hours.

"Hello Hambini fans!!! &*#%$£#$!!! &#$%£##$!!!"

 
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Mojo Geometron
Nicolai

 
Posted : 27/07/2020 12:00 am
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Just in case anyone stumbles across this thread (excuse the pun) in the future, I thought I'd provide a full list of brands that were mentioned above:

- Specialized
- Santa Cruz
- Ibis
- Nukeproof
- Transition
- Orbea
- Vitus
- Orange
- Whyte
- Niner
- Evil
- Banshee
- Cotic
- Bird
- Nicolai
- Pole
- Hope
- Liteville
- Stanton
- Starling
- Canfield
- Sonder
- Airdrop
- Kingdom
- Trek [in transition]

 
Posted : 30/07/2020 10:49 pm