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Front or rear mounted and pros and cons of each?
LO is 20 months and about 30lbs.
thanks
Going through the same process myself. Everything seems to point towards the WeeRide Safe Front, though obviously you'd want to hear that from someone who's actually got one:
http://www.weerideuk.co.uk/Weeride_Safefront.asp
Seems to get the thumbs-up from a few SW'ers:
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/whats-an-acceptable-aged-to-put-a-baby-in-a-bike-seat
And going cheap from Halfords via eBay at the moment:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WeeRide-Front-Safe-Child-Bike-Bicycle-Seat-Carrier-For-Baby-Child-Kids-1-4-Yrs-/201216787984?hash=item2ed9748610
Weeride?
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And yes, I would definitely recommend.
In my experience the most important question is "will it fit?" Most of the rear-mounted seats clamp onto the seat-tube. It's not uncommon for cables, cable stops, bottle cage braze-ons etc to get in the way. Even the geomerty of the bike can affect whether the seat fits or not. I have a fairly normal looking bike - a rigid single speed 29er - and I can't fit my existing child seat onto the seat-tube because I can't get it high enough to clear the rear tyre.
As for front-mounted, we found that our 14 month old was simply too big. He is a big lad, but no way he nor my wife would have been comfortable.
Summary: Try before you buy.
Weerides front ones are good but dont work with my dropper post. I put it on the wifes Cannondale and its a struggle to fit with the 1.5 headtube. You have to pedal it bow legged, dont bother with the kiddy foot straps. Got ours from Tesco online and collected instore.
I bought a rack for my commuter, to which I can put panniers, a rack bag, a basket thing, or a kids seat
Been very pleased with my kid seat, it's called a Polisport Guppy
5 point harness that isn't easily unclippable by kids, easy to adjust so I can fit both my kids. I've been able to rig up a pannier bag to the back for some load carrying ability too
Was surprisingly good value too
My boy is 16 months and has been absolutely LOVING the weeride for a few months. He's tall, on the 91 line, and is in no way too big for it, although the foot rests are at their lowest setting. The straps can slip off his shoulders but to be honest it's no big deal, I often do short rides without putting them on as he's well between my arms anyway. He often tips his wee head back to look at me as we whizz about! I think we've cruised down road hills well over 35mph a few times and it feels stable, safe and above all FUN. You can talk to him easily, unlike a rear seat, the kid can see everything and has a much better experience rather than getting a view of daddy's sweaty arse crack.
When he's bigger I'd be keen to get something like the 'in production' macride.
I also had a trailer but the boy never liked it - he just flopped over and moaned!
dont bother with the kiddy foot straps.
Unless your child enjoys taking her shoes off and throwing them into the road, in which case use the foot straps.
STOP
SHOUTING
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Interesting.
My colleagues bought me a Thule rear mount child seat as a present when the little one was born. She is nearly nine months old so just about the right age for me to start taking her out on short smoother rides.
The Weeride does look at bit more fun for them though
In addition to the croozer which got/gets the most use, I bought a Yepp Ahead mini. My little boy loved it, being up front and able to talk and everything was brilliant. I'll be flogging it at some point if your interested as he's out grown it anyway.
I went for the Yepp as could ride much more normally, much less knees out than the weerides from what I've seen. But! its only got a weight limit of 15kgs, also I'd say they're very much a summer time thing, as little ones can get very cold very easily in anything but warm uk weather. hence why we used the buggy far more. there is a wind-shield attachment for the Yepp maybe for other too
Got the Hamax Caress rear seat. Very happy with it and the boy seems to like it too (1 YO old now but started using it around 9 mon I think). Has recline function which is good for when he drifts off (often). I was amazed how he could sleep on fairly bumpy fire roads...
Instructions says do not use on FS bikes but I got it on the Anthem (Large) no bother with sufficient tyre clearance on full travel.
I got the ibert seat. Its front mounted. I've used it with all 3 of my children and its been great for us. I generally think front mounted seats are better because the child is more involved with you. The ibert allows you to put your head right next to theirs which is nice. Its simple in design but I don't think thats a bad thing. The seat is wobbly on its mount which draws criticism, but once the child is in the seat the wobbling is not really noticeable, I certainly don't find it an issue when riding. The ibert keeps the childs legs forward away from the pedals. I can't recommend it enough. We tend to only ride for about an hour on fire roads mostly, I can't remember any of them falling asleep. I think 1 was the age where we started using it. I'm still using it with my youngest who is 3.
Another thumbs-up for the Yepp Mini Ahead. Will probably get a rear fitting Yepp when the wee one outgrows the Mini - bonus is that the rear one doesn't appear to need a rack, or rack mounts, to fit.
Very happy weeride user here, daughter is now three and a half still fits fine. Just have to wary of the steering assistance 🙂
There is a LOCT on the classifieds at the moment that looks similar but doesn't have a headrest for when they fall asleep.
Yepp +1
And with one of these it will turn into a high chair
Another vote for the ibert safetseat, got one for our daughter which is fitted to my wifes Raleigh I built. From what I've read it gives the most leg room for a front mounted seat without having to ride with your knees bowed out, I can even ride with the seat set for the wife without a real struggle.
Organic/hunta.
Ive a Halfords seat which is now no use to me. Its the same a a basic hamax one.
Free to a good home. I'm based in the east midlands.
The WeeRide is great - though my 2.5 year old keeps trying to tell me that I need to let go of the handlebars because she is doing the steering!
I've listed the LOCT and also have a wee ride which I'll sell soon. Clearly I've used both although the wee ride looks a little different now. The main differences relate to the much much reduced bulk of the LOCT which is especially noticeable when riding as (I found) you don't bump legs into it like with the wee ride and it's easier to manoeuvre and steer with it. My girls preferred the LOCT as they grew but there's no way it's suitable for real littlies as they need to have the core strength to sit up safely. That's why I gave both - the girls progressed from one to the other.
Hope that helps?
Wee Ride is the best cycling related purchase I have ever made (which is saying a lot)
It was a sad day when the little one was too big for it
I got a weeride and was desperate for it to work out for me and the boy, from when he was 15 month to 2 years. But he didn't really like it and I never felt safe. The bow legged riding style, the top heavy feel of the ride, I nipped his legs with the bars, he fiddled with the levers or slapped my knees at each turn, when stopping I couldn't stand between the bike seat and the weeride so had to use dropper post to get both feet on floor etc...had to change to a trailer instead and things have improved, just as challenging but feels safer for us both 🙂
Infidel is correct. WeeRide then LOCT if you can.
I just took a 4&1/2 year old down the Chavannes red in Les Gets on a LOCT - not fast and rage effect my comfort zone, but he loved it.
I wanted a wee ride but I have small frames - so it wasn't compatible.
We bought a Hammax siesta which did the job. Albeit on the rear.
He's nearly too big for it & it's very rarely used now as he likes to sit on my cx bike's crossbar on a piece of pipe insulation. He calls it the "crouch".. 🙂
My knees don't take kindly to riding splayed apart for long distances when he's on the "crouch" - worth bearing in mind when considering the wee ride maybe.
I would get rear mounted tbh, you'll get more use out of it and they are wind shielded
I've had inexpensive hamax ones (which are fine) actually I have one that is free to anyone who wants to collect (Manchester)
I have a Yepp which is nicer, needed it to go on the back of a kona Ute for the smallest, the upper weight limit is higher than the hamax design which is a bonus and I'm sure it's comfier
Another vote for the ibert safe t seat, it's very simple and both kids rode in it very happily. We did the green run at Laggan with my daughter shouting "faster faster" which was very entertaining.
I'm about to put ours up for sale if anyone is interested?
Safe-t-seat looks interesting, though I see that the seat attaches to the steerer tube. How does it feel to ride? Presumably the passenger steers with the bars, which seems a little strange.
I bought a front mounted seat, and due to the bike's geometry I couldn't actually pedal with the seat on. Have switched to a hamax which mounts perfectly. Handling does suffer though due to the extra weight to the rear.
I wanted a wee ride but I have small frames - so it wasn't compatible.
I altered a WeeRide to fit my wife's 14" frame. Just lengthened the slot in the slotted half of the beam and added a notch in the end so it didn't foul. Fifteen minute with a drill, hacksaw and file.
One thing about front mounted is they get to see where they're going and they're inside your arms which they regard as a big cuddle. They tended to prefer that to staring at my fat behind. And I preferred it to them grabbing twigs and bits of plant and sticking them inside my shorts.
rear mounted will go up to approx age 5, did some school runs in their first year with one. I wouldn't have dared use a front mount for a child of that size, I have seen people using them and the knees apart pedal style looks very uncomfortable to me for any distance. with a rear they are also shielded from wind/bugs by your body when on the back of the bike, and can and will fall asleep on longer rides (~10 mile "family trail" stuff becomes feasible). there are different extension mounting bars for the hamax for different geometry bikes so you can make them fit. yes you do have to have enough room on the seat tube to fit the clamp, but you can find plenty of other places to put your bottles.
I have a hamax sleepy reclinable in vgc I was planning to ebay, with the standard and the large frame (I ride a 21) mounting bars, collect from milton keynes area make me an offer, can give you a never-crashed toddler helmet with it as well.
Just took a 4&1/2 year old down the Chavannes red DH in Les Gets on a LOCT (front/mid) mount.
I wouldn't have dared do that on a rear mount.
FYI I have 2 front mounted Yepp ahead fitting seats for sale at £30 each +£5 postage if anyones interested. One blue and one orange. Both brand new but no box. I also have 2 rear mounting ones that attach to a pannier rack too. One silver and one orange £50 each +£5 postage. Again both brand new.
Just saying like. 😉
toppers3933, might well be interested in both your Yepp's for our twins. Let me just does some quick research and I'll PM you.
I'm after a baby seat as well and saw a Weeride in use yesterday. It certainly seems a better place for the baby to be. I struck up conversation with the dad and he kindly let me try his bike with seat. It was a larger bike than mine but my knees were't as splayed as I thought they'd be. So might try a secondhand one in the next few weeks.
One day, my Mac-ride seat might actually turn up...
Appropriate name, that Siesta!
can anyone tell me the difference between the weeride "front" models?
Obviously the deluxe just has "better" padding" but there seems to me some different model names kicking about like
Kangaroo
Safe Front
Classic?
I am thinking the "safe front" is the latest version but not sure?
Neither my wife nor myself could get on with the knees out riding style required for the weeride (even after I'd taken a drill and hack saw to it to move it further forward). Found the Hamax seats to be a far better option and both the kids loved them.
As an update
Bought a weeride, and its going straight back.
fitted it on my turner flux and couldnt even get on the bike, impossible. Maybe my frame too small?
Also the small thumb screw that attaches the seat to the bar?? really thats the only thing attaching your little one to the bike??
i spoke to weeride before buying and said my little one was approaching the 15kg weight limit, and they said it would be fine, and that limit is only set by the EU as other front seats attach to the handle bars? even at 14kgs the seat felt flimsy and really didnt ave much confidence in the single screw attachment. The foot rests also fouled my steering hitting my forks.
There is no way this seat does ages 1-4 years, very disappointing. back to the drawing board. thin Ill look at trailers or tag-alongs
We went from a rear mounted Hamax for the first kids (they didn't seem to like the view of my bike and I found it made the bike quite unstable, especially, when stationary), to a Wee Ride (fitted OK on my wife's 15.5" Specialized Myka but no way was I fitting it on my Carbon Santa Cruz!). She disliked it as it made her hips hurt with the knees out style and was only safe to use when I fitted a Reverb for her so she didn't have to dismount when she stopped, so I bought a used LOCT I bought from here.
Couldn't be happier!
See mini review here http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/my-slowest-but-most-enjoyable-swinley-ride-ever-loct-test-ride
I'd suggest trying to find a used LOCT - such a shame they don't make them anymore.
Also the small thumb screw that attaches the seat to the bar?? really thats the only thing attaching your little one to the bike??
that, and gravity...
One day, my Mac-ride seat might actually turn up...
ETA of march 2016 now. 🙁
We used a Weeride Kangaroo/Deluxe when they were little, then onto a LOCT as they grew. Also managed to find an Islabikes trailerbike for longer rides once they were bigger. Once they're big enough to hold on and not fall asleep the LOCT is great, they use their legs to absorb the rougher stuff.
I still have the LOCT in the garage, PM me if you're interested (I live near Swinley). Trailerbike will be going next year as a friend is borrowing it at the moment.
Edit: LOCT and trailerbike in action!
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We have a Bobike front mounted carrier for sale if anyone needs one, I really should get around to putting it in the classifieds....
I have a hymax rear mounted seat with two mounts, one for each bike, free to anyone who posts regularly on here who can collect in leeds defos used but very useable.
So the weeride has been sent back, what are my options now?
Trailer?
What age can they go on tag alongs?
He's 2 at Xmas and already 15 kg so that rules out a lot of bike seats
Gonna look for a 2nd hand LOCT or maybe just focus on getting him on his own bike/balance bike
I tried a wee-ride with my son, but found it too low to get my knees around, and it creaked when the bike frame flexed. I swapped it for a case of beer and bought a Yepp Mini instead, which was faultless. But if your lad is 15kg already it's probably too late for one. My son was also big for his age, I moved to the Yepp Maxi (rear-mounted) when he was about 18 months, more to do with him being too tall and his head hitting my chest, than being too heavy.
If he's coming up to two then a balance bike could work. Mine started on a cheap wooden one at that age. For the tagalongs he'll need to be able to hold himself up on a saddle for however long you'll be out. I think there's a model that has a 'baby seat' with harness-style straps, instead of a saddle. Kinda like a bob trailer with Weeride/Yepp instead of a full trailer. Can't remember details though.
If you just want to go for a pootle round the park, quality time etc, then a balance bike will be ace. If you actually want to get to places you may find that it is way slower than walking! My son is almost 4, and while he can clip along at 12-15km/h on his [url= http://www.bykbikes.com/kids-bike-range/e350-kids-bike.html ]Byk 350[/url] we regularly get overtaken by old people out for a stroll:
"Dad, dad, stop a sec. I think I just saw a slug. Can I squish it?"
"Dad, stop a sec. My legs are tired." (about 100m since the last stop)
"Dad, wait. Look, you can see our shadows."
"I need to stop for a wee."
"Dad, stop, I want to go back and get that stick."
It's a wonder we ever get anywhere.
If it's for going places, look at getting a second-hand cargo bike, with a view to re-selling it when you're done with it. I went for an Xtracycle Free Radical, with a Yepp Maxi on the back. It's great, the boy can ride his own bike until he's tired (or I decide we need to actually make some progress) and then he can hop in the seat and his bike gets bungee'd on behind him. Worth a look.
