[Closed] Where to buy moody (fake!) oakleys?

I can see this thread vanishing soon. Probably find them available in all the usual places that supply knock offs from China 😉

Hmmmm - from the 'fake TLD clothing' thread I think the mods would prefer that we discuss the pros and cons of the cheap rip-off copies without advocating any particular chinese websites or ebay sellers to buy them from.

Hmmm... Poor UV and impact protection. I'd rather not risk an eye.

I recall this being asked a few months ago which sparked quite a heated debate around the ethics of buying fake goods.
There are certainly plenty available where you would expect. All colours and styles. Jawbone copies are about £10 plus postage. I wouldn't vouch for their ability to protect your eyes from the sun in any way which begs the question... why bother?

Why would you want fake Oakleys? Surely half the point is the lenses? Why not just buy another brand of glasses that you like the look of and are legit? (I wear cheap aldi sunglasses so I just might not be getting something...)

Hmmm... Poor UV and impact protection. I'd rather not risk an eye.

No idea about impact protection, unlikely to be any worse than other cheap glasses, but they were absolutely fine on UV.

Try here - www.counterfeitshit.com

I wouldn't vouch for their ability to protect your eyes from the sun in any way which begs the question...

I tested a coupla of pairs to the US spec* and they passed, in fact the mirrored version beat all the other glasses in the test and my fairly expensive polarised fishing glasses failed**

* - I can't fire a ball bearing at the lenses correctly, I did the UV part of the tests.

** - Polarised, so expected to fail

Poor UV and impact protection.

Merlin Evans crc or wiggle will sell glasses for £20 or £30 and they'll probably better, and not look like a clear rip off. They're really easy to tell from the originals and don't look good in any way. Endura make their own reasonably priced specs that will be much nicer.

[i]Poor UV and impact protection[/i]

Can you explain why they have poor UV protection? And I'm sure they'll resist fly impacts.

But why buy fake oakleys when you can get real something else for the same price? They don't perform well, they don't look good, the principle is wrong and you'll look like a mug! Or get some real second hand ones?

They don't perform well, they don't look good, the principle is wrong and you'll look like a mug!

I certainly don't condone the buying of counterfeits, wouldn't do it, own a number of pairs of real Oakleys, but most do look exactly like the real thing to the even partially trained eye, and they perform just fine, so really it's only the moral thing.

Bolle? Bloc?

Similar styles, much cheaper than Oakleys, better built in my opinion, great UV protection.

Can you explain why they have poor UV protection?

No, but if they are knocking them out for a tenner I wouldn't want to bet my eyesight on them being any good.

Whatever, it's a free country go and get a pair. Get two if you like.

I quite like the look (and price) of some of these myself. [url= http://www.endura.co.uk/Dept.aspx?dept_id=138 ]Endura[/url]

aliexpress

I've just bought a pair of Bolles. I'll probably give the 2 pairs of Jawbones i have from China to a mate 🙂

Can UV light pass through plastic or whatever lenses are made of these days?

On-One have been doing some good deals on glasses recently. I got some, about £20, they look good IMO and had 3 lenses including yellow iridium and clear for night riding.

they look good IMO and had 3 lenses including yellow iridium and clear for night riding.

Who needs UV and impact protection?
don't forget to go lens-less too if you want to go for a full on elbry look
http://www.rootsandrain.com/photos/408344

http://www.rootsandrain.com/photos/502354

don't forget the lens-less look too if you want to go for a full on elbry look

W...T...F?

[url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/dx-sunglasses-uv400-testing-results ]UV test results.[/url]

I've got real ones and fake, and the later fakes are pretty much indistinguishable from the real ones.

You've got to give it to Oakley - their immense marketing campaign does seem to work with most punters.

Zhaoxu2009 on eBay.

The fake ones I have had looked OK from a few foot away but up close looked as cheap as they were (£2.50 each) and felt horrible. I managed to snap the frames on two different pairs in different places. Strangely both times on different holidays in France this year.

I will be going back to buying real Oakleys next time.

Out of interest, how do you test they're protecting you from UV rays?

Tom KP

yeah, don't buy fake! Much better to get mud and flys, stones etc. in yer eyes. after all there
can't be many STW's that spend more money on the "right" labels just to look cool (they think) so others see the kit they wear can there 😉

hamishthecat - Member
You've got to give it to Oakley - their immense marketing campaign does seem to work with most punters.

You guys are spending thousands on bikes. Would you but a fake Fox 36 because you couldn't afford the real thing?
If you want the Oakley label just bloody buy some Oakleys.
They really are worth the money.
They're not that expensive if you look after them. I have a pair of Frogeyes from 1990 that are still going strong.

I've got a couple of pairs of Genuine Oakleys that i dont like riding in because they are titanium frames and i dont want them wedged in my bonce, and after the frames on my Endura ones went brittle with the sun I think ? Altho I have t had them UV tested to prove this I bought a pair of foakleys and they are shit, they are lob sided on my face, the ear stems are barely long enough to fit on my fat heed and the lense is not as good as genuine Oakleys

I'm not saying they won't pass a UV test but its like riding a nice bike compared to riding a halfords special, they genuinely feel like a pair of £20 sun glasses, which is fine if your used to wearing a pair of £10 sun glasses not so good if you aren't !

Out of interest, how do you test they're protecting you from UV rays?

Selotape a various fake/original lenses to your arm and see if you get sunburnt underneath.

You guys are spending thousands on bikes. Would you but a fake Fox 36 because you couldn't afford the real thing?
If you want the Oakley label just bloody buy some Oakleys.

If someone made 'fake' 36's that woprked as well as the originals but for half the price, why not? You could call then RS Lyriks or something.

Ignore the oakley logo, some people just want some cool looking glases that are cheep. Whether they have an 'O' on the side is largely irelavent. There's not much you can really do to make one pair of sporty glasses look differnt to another, oakley make about 100 different models, every pair on the plannet probably looks like one of them!

I've got £20 'Oakleys' and £20 decathlon glasses (which TBH, look a lot like M-frames), both do the job.

Yes of course people want good looking glasses that are cheap, so do I! The OP asked for fake oakleys not good looking glasses that are cheap.

And they're definitely not out of the same factory!

If you had £500 to spend on a mountain bike, would you buy a trek hardtail, or would you buy some risky Chinese (I know a £500 trek isn't lovingly handmade in America) thing that said Santa Cruz on it when everyone knew that it wasn't?

There's nothing wrong with lower priced goods, plenty of cheap glasses look great, just why choose some and pretend they're something they're not if you and everyone else know they're aren't?

Well…

UV rays are just energy at a certain wavelength. UVB = 280-315nm, UVA = 315-380nm.

I used a Shimadzu 3600 UV-Vis-NIR Spectrophotometer, with a fully traceable qualification each month and yearly calibration by the vendor. I got it to measure the full spectrum range it’s capable of (185nm to somewhere above 3Knm) through the lens of the specs I was testing.

Slightly dumbed down, but it fires a beam of energy, which is split into two streams. Stream One is used as a reference, the system is normally used to measure liquid sample solutions so it would normally be used to measure the solvent, but in this case it was left blank.

Stream two is used to measure the transmission of energy through the sample (which would be sample plus solvent in normal use), in this case the lens of the specs.

This is all done in absolute dark in the machine so you don’t get any light (energy) interference, Plus the sample compartment was pumped full of inert N2 as an extra belts and braces. You then subtract the background noise (Stream 1) to obtain the absolute transmission of Stream 2 for the lens.

This data is then plotted out over the whole of the wavelength range against transmission to give a graphical representation of the data. With the data I compared the UVB and UVA to the visual light region to ensure it passed the spec stated: 1% and 0.3X respectively.

I did worry about the angle of incidence (as we normally tests solutions which have cells set up perpendicular to the source), but even after playing around with the lens position the result obtained remained the same, giving me confidence the results obtained were genuine.

I hope that makes sense?

Posted 13 minutes ago # Report-PostHoratioHufnagel - Member

Out of interest, how do you test they're protecting you from UV rays?

Selotape a various fake/original lenses to your arm and see if you get sunburnt underneath.

Actually - what he said 😉

If you had £500 to spend on a mountain bike, would you buy a trek hardtail, or would you buy some risky Chinese (I know a £500 trek isn't lovingly handmade in America) thing that said Santa Cruz on it when everyone knew that it wasn't?

There's nothing wrong with lower priced goods, plenty of cheap glasses look great, just why choose some and pretend they're something they're not if you and everyone else know they're aren't?

But the difference is the fake oakleys are functionaly the same as the originals.

To twist your example, you could buy an Orange 5 650b, or a Santa Cruz Bantam, which is made in the far east and cheeper...........

thisisnotaspoon,
I'm sure you're a lovely guy and possibly you're having a bad today but you are making yourself look like a fool.
If you're happy buying fakes good luck to you as you can justify it to yourself.
It's just you're not justifying it to anyone else.
I for one and many others will just but what's legit and if we need it cheaper we buy it in a sale.

i have real m frames, they are great.
i have fake radars, they are good, but not as sturdy as the real mccoy, also the mirror lenses definately arent as good as the originals.
i bought them because if i leave them on a bus or drop them and stand on them i will only say 'oh bother' rather than the immense amount of swearing which would accompany broken/lost m frames.
i will say this though, now that i have worn them for a while, i will probably go get some real radars for my birthday.

iolo - Member
thisisnotaspoon,
I'm sure you're a lovely guy and possibly you're having a bad today but you are making yourself look like a fool.
If you're happy buying fakes good luck to you as you can justify it to yourself.
It's just you're not justifying it to anyone else.
I for one and many others will just but what's legit and if we need it cheaper we buy it in a sale.

Keep taking the medication...

I am. Diazepam and many mood stabilisers.
It's just when someone doesn't admit something and accpt it you have to tell them.
That is all.

Do the fakes take legit lenses? A very big part of the expense of Oakleys is the frame. A good compromise would be cheap frames and proper lenses which would save a lot and still give all the impact protection.

yes they do direct fit

Thisisnotaspoon,

I don't keep up to date with the prices of bikes that I don't want, but I'm assuming that a bantam isn't a tenth of the price of a 5. And that's not twisting my example either, because a bantam is a Santa Cruz, made/designed/researched etc by the company Santa Cruz, not someone else slapping a santa cruz sticker on it, regardless of the country it is made in.

Yes oakley is not owned by a little old woman somewhere who needs the money to buy her fish fingers, so that's not the argument I'm making, but I really don't understand why someone would want 'fake oakleys' rather than 'cheap sungasses'. Oakleys are brilliant, but not because they say oakley on them, there are plenty more excellent and less expensive sets of eyewear out there without having to resort to fakes.

There you go then !

Everyone's happy, half of us can still have shit copied frames and proper lenses and the other half can have both the shit lenses and shit frames,

CaptainFlashheart - Member

Try here - http://www.counterfeitshit.com

I own a pair of real oakleys and no fakelys BTW.

But the fakelys everyone bought from that oft-used purveyor of 'bastid lights' are probably not crap enough to make your site flashy: The quality of the fake splitty-openy ones (and indeed the hard case they come in) is quite extraordinary. And fwiw someone pointed out on the last thread about this that it is harder and more expensive to make plastic or polycarbonate lenses that [i]don't[/i] filter UV.

It makes one wonder whether the fakelys were another example of the factory employees subcontracted to produce real ones continuing work after hours using some of the same moulds/tooling etc... (this happens for all sorts of other brand-name/high-end stuff, even lego!) And it makes you wonder how much the middlemen, shop fronts and warranty is really worth on a pair of genuine oakleys.

I own a pair of real oakleys and no fakelys BTW.

Had a look at several different pairs of Oakleys in the duty free at the airport recently Frogskins and allsorts and to say I was completely underwhelmed is a understatement.

Ok there maybe is some tech going on in the lenses but the frames just looked like some bog standard plastic certainly no better than some Cebe glasses I got from TK max for £14.99.

I appreciate the aesthetic but if other companies can knockout a pair of glasses with proven impact protection and UV resistance for less than a tenner than I will spend my money there ,
The specs I'm talking about are Bolle's safety specs which adhere to the above statement and what I currently use,great visibilty,comfy ,light as a feather and cheap enough to be disposable.
The UV definetly works as a recent trip to france for the tour left me with nice panda eyes where the lenses stopped my face tanning whilst out riding.

I'm using the Contour ESP but may get some Grooves or Hustler as well.
http://www.bolle-safety.com/safety-spectacles/contour-contesp

Unovolo
I've used those for riding too.
They're perfect

Ye the frogskins and similar are admittedly basic, but they're based in a design a few decades old. As touched upon above there is an awful lot to be said for the Oakley warranty, I was sold a new pair of glasses for £25 after I snapped my 9 year old, second hand with no receipt m-frames. That's got to be worth something hasn't it?

But the difference is the fake oakleys are functionaly the same as the originals.

My current (well almost, had 4 more pairs since this photo) collection

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Would I buy fake? No chance

Do I think the "brand" and quality has suffered since Luxottica took over? Yes, yes I do

Lux are just rinsing the hell out of the brand now, constant limited editions, loads of new models that look the same, boring colours etc etc

They've shut down the xmetal plant (allegedly xmetals will come back but made in china)

Sometime ago they started making some glasses in china, I wasn't fussed about this (Flag waving American collectors were) as China can produce good quality kit. However I've recently bought a pair of two faces, which are made in china, and I have to say I am less than impressed with the quality, one of the lenses have recently loosened in the frame.

I don't think I'll purchase another Chinese made "lifestyle" pair. Are these fakelys coming from the same Chinese factory? Don't know, I would need to see a pair of fakelys up close but they could be rejects?

Lux did introduce an Elite range which almost was like the Oakley of old, however they priced the range stupidly high. They have now stopped this range (obviously wasn't making lux much money)

The founder of Oakley, Jim Jannard held a collectors event at his Red studios in Hollywood last month (was going to go but couldn't get time off work or really justify the expense) he still has a hand in Oakley and hinted that there will be a new model soon (ish) that will be like the Oakley of old. Sadly I feel this will be priced stupidly high by lux

For me the worst thing about lux taking over is that all their other brands can now use Oakley tech.

Will I still collect? Yeah the odd pair of new Radars and still want some of the older Mumbos but that's about it.

I don't think I'll purchase another Chinese made "lifestyle" pair. Are these fakelys coming from the same Chinese factory? Don't know, I would need to see a pair of fakelys up close but they could be rejects?

Houns, I lurk on a lego forum, and since lego stated getting some parts and especially minifigures and hats/hair pieces (for the little lego men, not full size people!) made in china, the volume and indeed the quality of counterfeit lego has increased considerably.

However I've recently bought a pair of two faces, which are made in china, and I have to say I am less than impressed with the quality, one of the lenses have recently loosened in the frame.

For some unfathomable reason (I am sure not ecological!) China also has limitatons on the types, blends and grades of plastics that can be imported as raw material for use in their factories: the ABS used in Chinese-made legit lego is inferior to that used by lego everywhere else (denmark, hungary, mexico etc); I wonder if there is a similar issue with Chinese-made legit oakleys?

I was getting disillusioned by all the limited editions of oakley stuff too until I found an advert for the "Radar Path France" in Rouleur today. 😀
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Aside from the bag you can make them up yourself, probably for less too!

Interesting point about the plastics, I didn't mention in my post that its the acetate frames being made out there (however I do feel that the other frames are being made out there too)

Ah here we go, my TdF Radar Locks "assembled in US" = Made in China

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I got a set of the fakes and theyre fine. I thought i'd discovered the weak point when I stood on them and they fell into half a dozen pieces- but they just popped back together. I just bought them as cheap glasses, Ive got real oakleys but i'm not a fan to be honest, certainly wouldn't have paid for them.