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This looks worth a watch if this teaser is anything to go by?


 
Posted : 18/09/2012 12:31 pm
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Been waiting a while for this, just pre-ordered on itunes.

EDIT: the trailer on itunes is worth a watch too.


 
Posted : 18/09/2012 12:39 pm
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Glen Plake on a bike!?! Wow.


 
Posted : 18/09/2012 12:40 pm
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The lines they are taking are very new school skiing / snowboard like. Looks fantastic.


 
Posted : 18/09/2012 12:53 pm
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Its on all day on Thursday for free. Starting with the live screening of the premiere at 3:30am. Early morning for me and watch it before work.


 
Posted : 18/09/2012 1:01 pm
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Has anybody seen this yet? Its on for free [url= http://www.redbull.com/en/bike/films/1331576198989/where-the-trail-ends ]here[/url] and you can pre-order it from iTunes for £8. I have ordered it and am in the process of watching it.

BTW skip the first hour if you watch it online, its just interviews from the premiere. With a couple of trailers thrown in.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:05 am
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Better than 'Stength in Numbers'? (which was poor imo)


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:32 am
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watched it on the red bull tv loop
Summary
Bunch of guys from Utah go round the world avoiding culture etc. looking for stuff that looks like Utah. Riding it like Utah. Return to Utah.

Too many long shots of dust. Final section had better filming.

Yawn


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:34 am
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Mikewsmith.....LOL.....seriusly great review and very kermodian!

Reaffirmed what i thought from the trailer


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:59 am
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Just watched it.
Barry'Mikewsmith'Norman sums up my reaction.
(cue tiresome "well you could'nt ......blah blah blah blah blah")


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 11:02 am
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only seen the trailer and I'm sure they are skilled riders but I've never enjoyed slow motion films of guys riding down steep loose dirt hills and falling over lots.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:01 pm
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These vids are made first and foremost for a yankee audience.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:19 pm
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Why would'nt confederates like it?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:24 pm
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Well I enjoyed it. Makes me want to go out and ride my bike as hard as I can, which at the moment isn't very hard.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 12:38 pm
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Good, but not a patch on '3 Minute Gaps'.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:13 pm
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To me, whilst the chaps in the video are incredibly skilled and all that, watching this is a bit like watching the England football squad practice set pieces, or Tiger Woods in a driving range. I much prefer something like Three Minute Gaps (which is essentially the story of the World Cup that year) or even watching the DH live.

Quite nicely shot though... It's basically an MTB version of Art of Flight innit.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:20 pm
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Whilst mtb film buyers are lurking....any thoughts on Trail Notes? Tempted by it the other day as it looks to encompass more my style of riding.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:24 pm
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Trail Notes is ok, mainly interviews rather than riding.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:34 pm
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Hmmm, sounds like limited longevity for TN.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:37 pm
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I'm be more impressed if they rode up those hills.

That's where 'real' mountain biking cam from.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 1:46 pm
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Posted : 20/09/2012 5:56 pm
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Watched this and thought it really good but then immediately rewatched the art of flight, Mtb films still miles behind on production and visuals


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:47 pm
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Is it better than Mud Cows 2?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:51 pm
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Stupefyingly boring. Made for kids to jizz themselves to death on the Pinkbike forums.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 9:55 pm
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Stupefyingly boring

Trying to watch it now...... bored 🙁

40mins in and just feel like I'm seeing the same thing over and over, apparently I'm not freebro enough


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:14 pm
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agreed , was really looking forward to it but dissapointed and wont be buying - fearless skilled riders no doubt. but not enough variation for my taste . Vast is more my thing i think


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:19 pm
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What's the biking film that was out recently- mostly "real world" singletrack type riding..
Never managed to see it.. Anyone?


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 10:50 pm
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Mikewsmith.....LOL.....seriusly great review and very kermodian!

I wasn't even trying to be that pithy.....

As for best films
Roam/Collective I enjoyed
3 Minute Gaps
Lifecycles for the lack of rider interviews
There was a swiss one that was great
Would love to see some more Alpine stuff.

Where the trail ends could either have had more depth or variety or been a series of 5min Vimeo Vids. There has been some better stuff in the mid week movies.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 11:03 pm
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fuds.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 11:24 pm
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If you like this sort of thing, you'll like it, because it's this sort of thing. If you don't, you probably won't, because it isn't any other sorts of things.

Is VAST still cheap on Itunes? Buy VAST instead. It isn't this sort of thing.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 11:28 pm
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its an amzing vid in its own rights... think a lot of you old men are missing the point.


 
Posted : 20/09/2012 11:30 pm
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Which is?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:07 am
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its an amzing vid in its own rights... think a lot of you old men are missing the point.

I tried to like it - I watched it all the way to the end.

Still no idea what the point is - the voice over didn't say.....

The 1st half had loads of long shots of carving turns with a spec of a rider - great for the first 2 then a bit samey. The terrain meant they kept going into the dark. Some of the big drop gulleys seemed to miss the best bits on either helmet cam or film.

Later on it was just a repeat of the earlier stuff. Once they got a bit closer some stuff looked better, but was mostly a repeat. You could have scrambled the footage and still not known what was where.

It missed:
The humour of the NWD series.
The Art of Lifecycles
The Personalities in 3 Minute Gaps
The Variety in any other film

As an Old 33yo I may be missing something but the Dudes of Hazard was a better bike film 🙂


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:16 am
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imo the point of this film is that we think mtb is a developed sport, but its not really. so much out there no one has ever riddin thay spent 2 years making that film and thay only slightly scratched the surface. big mountain biking pushes advances in both riding styles and bike tech. and to the guy who said

I'm be more impressed if they rode up those hills.

That's where 'real' mountain biking cam from

why whould thay ride when thay have a heli?? and some of those "hills" you would need climbing equipment to get up so even if thay had 10kg flimsy 4inch travel stream lined skinny tyred xc bikes thay would still have to carry the bikes


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:19 am
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imo the point of this film is that we think mtb is a developed sport, but its not really. so much out there no one has ever riddin thay spent 2 years making that film and thay only slightly scratched the surface.

That was probably lost on me when they went round the world looking for places that were like Utah. Then rode the same style for the whole film. The cynic in me keeps thinking it's a nice warm up for the Red Bull Rampage...


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:30 am
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im not sure what other style you was expecting after all it is a big mountain film, not dh racing or trail or xc. every drop is diffrent, the places do look a bit sameish but thats what a mountain looks like. one bit did crack me up tho, when he said " if we wanted to ride in the woods we would of gone bc" at this i thought well if u wanted to ride big mountain why not just go utha.... glad thay made the trip tho. im gussing the folk who dident like are xc types?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 12:50 am
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Not an XC type, ever drop may be different but when filmed from about a mile away it looks the same. Perhaps they went beyond how much of 1 style you can put in a film for me.

The yanks at the premier certainly seemed entertained whooping all the way through though I think the bar was open.

Probably the worst bit was it made some of the riding look like it was just hold on down a steep hill rather than impressive.

I liked the trailer but just then realised that they just repeated it over and over.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:01 am
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Well I'm old,and haven't missed anything.

Well, I lie. It streamed from 58mins so I missed the start.With the hype around it I thought I'd give it a go. I don't normally watch this sort of stuff,the last was early stuff from some of the rampage events and I think I watched a bit of new world disorder when it came out. This bored me. Amazing scenery,well filmed and It looks so much fun drifting down those gulleys in the sand. Some of the backflips were monsterous and they amaze me how they can get the courage up to go for it. Some guys. The under or over-rotated 360's are the tricks that bore the hell out of me,though. Its so hard to watch over and over when we've seen similar on mtb's 10 years ago.

The best bit was the interview with Drew Benzanson telling lies by agreeing that the bmxer's help out the mtb'ers and vice versa lol. He'll be stoked on the big hucks but ughh,just watch this and ask yourself just how inspired Drew Bezanson can be when he's doing stuff like this! It's near impossible for the guy to get inspired from mtb'ers doing tricks that the likes of Hoffman and Wilkerson were doing 23 years ago (backflips/2hip contests)

Here's some real jaw dropping 2 wheeled action for those that enjoy bicycle stunts. Find a series of Natural World with David Attenborough if you need a bit of a scenery fix.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:05 am
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Is there a dirt jump section sandwiched somewhere in the middle? Thought I would check before hand. Can I assume this is just people riding their bikes to music, or is there more to it than that?


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 1:55 am
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Film quality is good, but it is all the same stuff. Fine to watch once, boring to watch again. Im clearly a minority though as out of all the films I've seen, I only rate Dirt and Vast as worth watching repeatedly...the rest are too much about jumping with tricks or crashing...


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 6:12 am
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Few gobsmaking moments, but i got bored of constant "desert riding" and switched it off, won't be rushinh out to buy it


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 6:39 am
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Yet another film where they

"take biking back to basics"
"push the envelope"
"ride the same stuff repeatedly"
"destroy previously unmarked landscapes"
"the riders sound like bill and ted rather than normal human beings"

Waste of money, just dig out one of your old DVD's as they are all much the same.

When will they bring out something original.

Feel the gnarr bro, rad to the powah of sic, peace out


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 7:26 am
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According to one of the riders (probably a McCaul) this is "true big mountain riding" so all that stuff that people have been doing for years in non-desert mountain ranges doesn't qualify?

Some of this film reminded me of Eric Barone's efforts on that volcano, in a bodysuit, although at half the speed and with sickkkkk threads on, dude.

That backflip was immense though.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 7:37 am
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and of course the reply to us talking about it in this way will only make them think we are a bunch of fat keyboard warriors slating it. This is true on my part. I take it the film was put together with the intentions of it being better than all previous stuff as far as riding,scenery etc goes. I just commented the way I have above as that's my views on it. It's old hat,the bmx clip shows what's happening on two wheels elsewhere in the world right now and it truly is riding worth watching that blows this away.

I know those guys would say something like 'well this is the way mtb is right now and people want to watch what we're doing right this minute' but if the progression over the past 10 or so years has come to this.. then to get my fix of wow factor I will have to continue watching bmx.

...and the natural world repeats ;O)


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 8:16 am
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It was OK.

Vast is still my favourite biking film by some distance.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 8:43 am
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Probably the worst bit was it made some of the riding look like it was just hold on down a steep hill rather than impressive.

^^This! A couple of things were impressive, but over-all I was just terminally bored after 15mins. The good thing is that it made me want to get out and ride somewhere that didn't look like a sand-pit.

The "we think MTB is a developed sport"-argument is BS. Just look at how often someone tries to define XC, or a company announces a new must-have niche bike, and we all get in the same argument about what MTB 'really is' that then peters out when everyone gets bored and just decides to go ride a bike instead.


 
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Probably the worst bit was it made some of the riding look like it was just hold on down a steep hill rather than impressive.

ah, like the guy who was carving massive turns in the loose shale? just. holding. on. riiiight....

you lot just sound dull! big mountain stuff has been done before, but this was next level stuff. they took you to places you've never seen or heard of before and rode their bikes down lines that no other humans have ever even previously considered. with a hell of a lot of style to boot. that was the concept of the film - pretty simple, what's not to get?

i'm sure if they wanted to make something with lots of fooling around (like Dudes of Hazard), or make a film purely about pushing the boundaries of massively complex new school bmx-style tricks they could have. and i'm pretty sure that all the riders and photographers of other films can appreciate the efforts taken to make WTTE rather than sitting at home thinking "my stuff is better than theirs".


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 9:20 am
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True...I'd never heard of china before I watched it.
We're all middle aged IT workers....'course we're dull,thicko.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 9:23 am
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great response from someone who's only input to the discussion was "i agree with such & such's negative review because being anti-cool is the new cool"


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 9:32 am
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Thanks 😀


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:01 am
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anytime 😛


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:49 am
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At the end of the day (/jeremy kyle) it's all bike riding, so it's all good, I was getting a bit tired of all the 'This breaks all the boundaries!' nonsense about where the trail ends, but you've got to admit the riding is pretty bloody entertaining to watch, those guys have balls as big as mountains.

Life Cycles was also pretty cringeworthy for the narration, but there are still some amazing scenes (transitions from season to season in the opening scene), it makes me confused why people on a mountain bike forum have to be completely negative about films which are good for the sport.


 
Posted : 21/09/2012 10:55 am
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amen stevelol!


 
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